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post #511 of 6869
Fry's carries the Silver Sensor. I have one as well on top of my entertainment center hidden behind a plant. We do get some signal drop-out (only occasionally), though I'm not sure if it's related to people moving around the room or not.

For us, the antenna has to be rotated slightly to pick up CBS vs. NBC. None of the other stations are that sensitive (they can be picked up on eihter alignment), but NBC and CBS seem to be mutually exclusive.

For us, a roof-mounted antenna wasn't an option, and the SS picks up what we need with no problem 95% of the time (or more). The small drop-outs aren't enough of a problem for me to justify spending a bunch fo money on a wire run to the attic or garage, but if small interference does bother you, then the larger antenna might be the way to go.

My two cents: I'd recommend you try the cheaper solution at Fry's before you go for the full-scale antenna installation. If that doesn't work, you can always take the SS back.

Good luck,

Jason
post #512 of 6869
Thus far I've tried 2 antennas.

1: Phillips Basic
2: Terk l5? amplified

I suppose it wouldn't hurt trying one more. BTW can anyone
pick up FOX? I really would like to see 24 in HD.

Mike
post #513 of 6869
Quote:


Originally posted by PanamaMike
BTW can anyone
pick up FOX? I really would like to see 24 in HD.

Mike

Unfortunately right now FOX isn't in HD. It's in 480p widescreen which is obviously better than SD, but it's definitely not HD quality. I've heard that FOX will be going to real HD (720p widescreen) in the Fall.
post #514 of 6869
Mike - For what it's worth, I tried the TERK as well, the amplified one that clips onto a mini-dish (TV44 I think), as well as the huge TerkTV55 that you nail into a wall (indoor/outdoor).

Neither worked as well as the Silver Sensor, and it was the cheapest of the bunch to boot. Hopefully it'll work for you as well.

(if you search this thread for the silver sensor, there were a series of posts on this a few months back as well, you might find some more info on OTA reception there).

Jason
post #515 of 6869
Very few of us can pick up FOX right now, and given your location, I don't think any OUTDOOR antenna will work for you, much less an indoor one. I live in SW Austin and helped a friend with his setup with a Zenith Silver Sensor and it works well for him (but no FOX). Before I moved to my outdoor antenna (CM 4228 -- I CAN pick up FOX) I used a RS double bow-tie with good results for everything except for FOX.

Good luck.

Murray
post #516 of 6869
Well, here's the 100k question.

If I invest in putting in an outdoor antenna, will I regret it in the even
of hail or wind storm? Have any of you had experience with this?

If I'm only gonna miss out on FOX due to their squirrelly antics I suppose
I can live with the silver sensor.
post #517 of 6869
Quote:


Originally posted by PanamaMike
Well, here's the 100k question.

If I invest in putting in an outdoor antenna, will I regret it in the even
of hail or wind storm? Have any of you had experience with this?

If I'm only gonna miss out on FOX due to their squirrelly antics I suppose
I can live with the silver sensor.

Mike,

I haven't had any problems with weather in the 2 years I've had my outdoor antenna. Maybe I wasn't very clear in my first post. Even if you do use an outdoor antenna, you most likely will not be able to pick up FOX. I was just lucky because of my location. There are many others in Austin who have an outdoor antenna and don't get FOX.

Murray
post #518 of 6869
Thread Starter 
Mike,

You are so close to the towers, that any outdoor antenna would be overkill, unless you have a ton of stuff between your house and the line of site to the towers. For example, if you have a one story, and you have a 4 story apartment building right next to your house between you and the towers, then maybe an outdoor model would be useful.

As others have said, start cheap and simple. YOu'll be surprised that you'll probably get every channel save for FOX. NOBODY gets Fox. Unless you mount a high gain antenna with a strong pre-amp about 15 feet above your roofline, you will [most likely] NOT receive FOX. And even then, it would be doubtful.

When (and I stress when) Fox goes higher power, your silver sensor (if you buy one) should receive it NO problem.

Just go silver sensor, and don't freak out about not having the biggest greatest antenna. Remember, the Titanic wasn't all it was cracked up to be. :P If the silver sensor doesn't get you all that you need, then we can discuss what options you should look into, such as an attic mounted antenna (what I use, b/c I bought mine before I ever even heard of the silver sensor) or even an outdoor deal.

P.S. DO NO BUY TERK. It is just overpriced, underperforming, well-marketed stuff. Like Monster Cable. (previous statement is just my opinion and is not intended to start a big discussion or flame war).

-Rob

Quote:


Originally posted by PanamaMike
Well, here's the 100k question.

If I invest in putting in an outdoor antenna, will I regret it in the even
of hail or wind storm? Have any of you had experience with this?

If I'm only gonna miss out on FOX due to their squirrelly antics I suppose
I can live with the silver sensor.
post #519 of 6869
Thread Starter 
Mike --> one more thought. If you really want FOX, pay the $16/month and get TWC ultra basic with an HD box. It has all the HD channels you'll get over the air, except WB and NBC.

So, if you NEVER watch NBC, then TWC could be the way to go for you. YOu can always do both OTA *and* TWC.
post #520 of 6869
Hey Robert,

Thanks for the feedback!

Yes I'll give the Silver Sensor a try. I knew Terk was probably not the
best choice, but the Best Buy guy told me it was the best they had.
Not to mention they where all but sold out.

Well, I think TWC is not going to be an option since I just joined the
Dish ranks. I picked up a 921 and I'm hoping I won't regret it. The
call of PVR HDTV was too strong :P

Mike
post #521 of 6869
Quote:


Originally posted by RobertCooper
Mike --> one more thought. If you really want FOX, pay the $16/month and get TWC ultra basic with an HD box. It has all the HD channels you'll get over the air, except WB and NBC.

So, if you NEVER watch NBC, then TWC could be the way to go for you. YOu can always do both OTA *and* TWC.

OK. Had a whole post on this, re: TWC shill, etc. Nasty. Decided nope, just that after 15 years of twc, I went D* last year, am lovin' it, an will never look back....
AMc
post #522 of 6869
Quote:


Originally posted by PanamaMike
Well, I think TWC is not going to be an option since I just joined the
Dish ranks. I picked up a 921 and I'm hoping I won't regret it. The
call of PVR HDTV was too strong :P

Mike

I know that it may lack many of the true PVR features, but it's worth noting that TW-Austin now provides the SAE8000HD which is also an HD-DVR. I've been using it for about two months now and think it's great!
post #523 of 6869
Well, I wasn't aware of HD recording on TWC. Jeez I guess I'm just in
the dark. Anyhow I also opted for satellite because it should be
cheaper than cable. I'm getting 60 + local+ basic HD channels for $45.00
a month.

Additionally, my cable does something weird from time to time. Over the
last year, the cable picture would go bad intermitently and I the cable
company never could tell me why. Picture would go fuzzy for no apparent
reason and I'd have to mess with the cable wiring to get it back to normal.

I think their local connection box or whatever must have been bad since
they almost rewired my entire house!

Oh well, I hope the 921 doesn't turn out to be too much of a stinker.

Mike
post #524 of 6869
Quote:


Originally posted by PanamaMike
I'm getting 60 + local+ basic HD channels for $45.00
a month.
Mike

Wow. What provider is that? DirecTV? Do you know what your extra taxes and fees are?
I'm sick of how much TWC is charging for the small number of channels I actually watch. Everything's a GD "package". To get Speed you have to pay for the sports package. To get HDNet, you have to pay for the HD package, etc...
post #525 of 6869
Quote:


Originally posted by PanamaMike
Anyhow I also opted for satellite because it should be
cheaper than cable. I'm getting 60 + local+ basic HD channels for $45.00
a month.

How much was the 921, though? Isn't it ~$1K up-front investment? If not, could you give a pointer? And if so, shouldn't you include an amortization of that up-front investment in the "true" cost of satellite? For example, if you're planning to keep that satellite system for two years, that's an additional ~$42/month that you've paid for HD-PVR features taking your real monthly cost to ~$87/month. Or maybe there's some super deal out there that scores the 921 for almost nothing?
post #526 of 6869
I've got the Silver Sensor in Georgetown sitting on top of my TV and I get perfect reception on everything (except, of course, FOX).
post #527 of 6869
I have mentioned this in the hardware section but I wanted to ask my fellow Austin peeps as well...

As I'm sure you all know, the 3250 converts the analog channels to a digital pcm stream. Well, has anyone else noticed that when this is done, the audio is VERY bright and harsh? There's a huge emphasis on dialog it seems and it's far too overexaggerated in my opinion.

When I am on a digital channel with DD, I don't notice it as much. Although I have to say for DD (with DVD's as well) I have always noticed that some are too overly bright, but I assume this is just due to the way they are mixed because brighter can sound better at first. Most are fine.

But the issue I mention above with the analog channels isvery bad. I can barely listen to it without getting annoyed. Am I the only one?
post #528 of 6869
Yes, there was a hefty premium for the 921, it ran $650.
However, on the bright side, the 311 that came with it was free,
so was the install.

I've got to say that digital on the satellite is head and shoulders above
what I was getting from TWC. However, I haven't had one of those
dreaded rainy days yet.

I got the package deal from Satellite Country.
$49.00. this figure includes tax, I'm having to pay an extra $4.99 per receiver.

[Update]
Found out I have to pay an additional $4.98 to have a DVR connected
to the system!!! If it had TIVO functionality I wouldn't mind, but the
recording capabilites are nothing different than a VCR!

I do wish I could have kept road runner, for my internet needs, but
SBC DSL is doing o.k. @ $35.00 for 1.5MB/sec.

I'm saving around $15.00 a month with basic HD to boot.

I suppose if I count the 921 cost, it would bump up the monthly average
dollars spent but this was an extra luxury choice since I could have gotten the non PRV 811 for free.

I've only lived with the system for a few days, so I'll return a verdict over time.

Pmiranda,

Satellite has packaging just like TWC, it's just a little cheaper.

Mike
post #529 of 6869
If you're keen on a 921, read the thread on DBSTALK forum before
making the jump.

Wish I had, I wasn't aware of the many bugs in the PVR. I haven't
been too miffed about the yet, but I still haven't used it much.

And BTW TIVO is much better. I wish it had the same functionality.
post #530 of 6869
I bought the silver sensor last night and it works about the same as the
TERK TV5 amplified antenna.

I'm a bit perplexed since the channel line up on the offical web site, doesn't
match what I can pick up on my 921.

I can't seem to get 13 or 27 in addition to 56 FOX.

Are the channel number not the same as listed on the site?

http://www.nab.org/Newsroom/Issues/d...TVstations.asp
post #531 of 6869
Quote:


Originally posted by PanamaMike
I can't seem to get 13 or 27 in addition to 56 FOX.

http://www.nab.org/Newsroom/Issues/d...TVstations.asp

27 (KXAM) is the NBC station in Llano, so you would need to point your silver sensor in that direction -- I'd be surprised if you picked it up.

13 (KAKW) is the UPN station somewhere outside of Austin (maybe Fredricksburg or San Antonio -- not sure exactly) so again, you will not be able to get it with your silver sensor pointed towards the Austin towers and probably can't get it at all.

Murray
post #532 of 6869
Thread Starter 
Mike,

Have you checked out the "Central Texas HDTV Summary"? It is the thing this thread is built around. See my signature.
post #533 of 6869
Did the HD UPN station ever go on the air in Fredericksburg? I didn't see it on the summary chart.
post #534 of 6869
Robert,
You are listing 1080i transmission on KLRU 18-1(PBS)!? I have yet to see it! Perhaps you should update your excellent spread-sheet to call these laggards into account....
(:-),
AMc
post #535 of 6869
Looks like I should have studied it a little closer.
I didn't happen to see channel 13, so I wasn't sure it was the
latest.

Mike
post #536 of 6869
Does anyone know anything about Voom and their plethora of HD programming?
post #537 of 6869
Quote:


Originally posted by a. macree
Robert,
You are listing 1080i transmission on KLRU 18-1(PBS)!? I have yet to see it! Perhaps you should update your excellent spread-sheet to call these laggards into account....
(:-),
AMc

Yup definitely not HD yet. I spoke w/ someone at KLRU the other day and they said they are still working the kinks out of their HD equipment. And I was told that it would be soon. Been hearing that for almost a year now.
post #538 of 6869
Thread Starter 
AMc and bonoc,

Yes, you are both correct. I put 1080i on my spreadsheet WAY BACK WHEN, b/c the KLRU guy told me they had everything they needed for 1080i, except the auto-switcher thing (to go from SD -> HD automatically w/o having some guy flip a switch every time). But you are right... maybe I'll put a snide remark in the table.

About UPN... dunno. Anyone in Frederickberg have any clue?
post #539 of 6869
I just upgraded today from a Hitachi 43FWX20B to a Hitachi 51S700! While I am keeping TWC w/ HD-DVR for most of my HD, the new tv has an OTA tuner built in (along with firewire and DVI!)... I live in an apartment, and I know I'm not going to be able to pick up Fox (but at least I get it through TWC), but I would like to pick up an antenna for NBC, CBS, ABC and WB... Since they are all on the same tower, I should be able to pick up all of them with a directional (indoor) UHF antenna right? Would something like the Zenith Silver Sensor work for me?
post #540 of 6869
The Silver Sensor should be a good indoor choice for anyone in the Austin city limits unless if live in some freak cave dwelling underground.
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