2004 Mitsubishi CRT Tweaks/Q&A thread - Page 8

Hi, I just bought the WS-55613 RPTV almost 2 weeks ago and love it. I did most of the calibration techniques in this thread as well as taking off the glare screen, which made the biggest PQ improvement IMHO. Although, after taking it off I did notice like someone on this board stated, a loss in the black levels as well as more grains/pixels (especially compared to my Sony 65WS550 that still has it's glare screen on). I don't want to use the black enhancement option, so does anyone know what I can do to get the blacks a little darker (current Contrast is 17 and Brightness is 29)? With regards to the increased pixels, what can I do to remedy?

Also, I noticed that my TV rebooted and sometimes would not turn on (flashing led, then nothing) when using it in low power mode. Not sure if its just my TV, but this tip may help others experiencing this, I just keep it in standard power mode and no reboots, but like clockwork I get reboots the moment I switch to low power mode.

Thanks in advance for my questions above...

My ISF guy, Robert Busch and I did this very thing and while the improvement is not dramatic, there is a definite improvement. Well worth the time and effort, Took about 1-2 hrs.

Jim

Marc, thanks for the quick reply... I will definitely try this as I think I've done everything short of this and/or an ISF calibration. Sorry, I forgot to give you guys a reference point on what I've done. Anyways, I first took off the glare screen, calibrated via DVE, did some sm tweaks for overscan, and did 64 point convergence on all inputs. Anyways, thanks for the info., I'll try the Duvetyne.

As far as the increased pixels, anyone know what the cause of this is? When I place the glare screen on again, the pixles don't go away but are less noticeable (picture is softer overall too). I'm guessing that w/ the screen off PQ is sharper, hence pixels are more noticeable, so the pixels were always there, just not as obvious with the screen on. Is this true, or is there a way to reduce them via sm tweaks or ISF calibration, thanks.

I don't notice them from my normal viewing distance at 11 ft. I start noticing them at around 6-7 ft. I'm only asking because w/ the glare screen on I need to be 3-4 ft to see them. Scan lines I can see on all inputs at around 6-7 ft, while pixels are only on my OTA HD antenna source. So I guess it's my feed then. Will an inline amp for the silver sensor antenna help reduce the pixels/noise? Thanks again...

Marc,

Does this hold true for the Diamond Shield used on the Diamond series sets also? Can't remember if I asked this question before or not. Which way will provide the best picture, on or off, I have no children or pet considerations to influence the decision. The set is a WS55813.

Thanks,

Jim

Cool, thanks. I guess that explains why my Sony 65WS550's PQ isn't as good as my new Mits WS55613. On the Sony no matter how close I get I can never see any scan lines. The Mits PQ isn't leaps and bounds better, but you can see a nice PQ difference though. Thanks again for all the help, I can finally stop my tweaking and just enjoy the set (w/ occasional convergence adjustments I'll try and do twice a year at a minimum of course).

Thanks,

Jim

I was in a high end audio store yesterday and one of the guys told me I'd get a better picture if I turned off progressive scan on the DVD player and let the TV do the conversion. He also mentioned setting the resolution on the TV. Does that make sense? I've been using a Mits DVD player (model 8040) in case that makes a difference. I have other DVD plays that I think are high quality but they are not progressive scan.

He also recommended using the DVI port for digital cable over the component inputs?

Thank you for your insight,
Frank

Just got my 9" gunner yesterday. WS65813. I ended up with a much higher brightness setting than most, at 51. This setting was necessary to dstinguish all 10 bars in the avia 10 IRE bars pattern.

set contast to 18. not because there was ever blooming present through full contrast but because the line on the lft became more distorted at higher contrast. There is still a small distorion still present at top of the line at 18.

Anyhow, with brightness at 51, and contrast at 18, am I asking for trouble? Is it desirable to differentiate all 10 of those bars?

Set seems to have accurate color decoding with tint of 27 and color of 37. Blue filter is spot on and red and green both seem within 5 or maybe 10%.Seem like thats in the ball park?

I like Medium Color - seems most neutral. Low yellows. High runs blue.

Lastly, is there a way to verify the hours on the CRTs. I was supposed to have bought an open box returne within 30 days of purchase, but there sure is a lot of dust an finger prints on it. Wondering if they did the old switcheroo with a demo model on me. Any way to test? Suppose I could (should have) just asked the store for the return paperwork including serial number.

thanks in advance. This TVs awesome.
jb

Thanks Mark. I'm using AVIA. Uh, what's DC Resoration all about?

I do prefer the contrast up around 31, have I got that much wiggle room as far as burn in protection goes? Also, since that setting seems to stress the power supply (distorted white line) what are the everydat effects on the picture (oes geometry get thrown off?) and what are the longer term effects on the life of the power supply?

thanks,
jb

well I have - on both counts - just not the black pattern descriptions I guess. Not that I know what to do with the gamma table now that I've read it's description
thanks again, marC, for your input on both threads.

jb

So I have a VGA to RGB-V cable. I think its V, its the grey cable. Is there anyway I can modify that, or just use it on the RGB-V-H input on the set?

EDIT:

OK, looks like the cable I have provides composite sync and they do have circuits to split out composite sync to Hsynv and Vsync. But as I also need to buy BNC-RCA adapters, it may be cheaper to just buy a new cable. Oh well.

jb

Originally posted by Marc Alexander
OVERSCAN

MENU-0357
Scroll modes - AUDIO
Scroll items - VIDEO
Save - ENTER
Cancel - Cancel
Exit - Menu

MODE - Def Jungle
Horizontal Width - HWID
Vertical Height - VHGT

MENU-0359 for geometry SM

Misc - 6
Coarse - 5
Fine - 4

Color (RGB) - AUDIO
Item Scroll - VIDEO
Cancel- CANCEL
Save and Exit - MENU

marc i have a ? what is the difference between the FINE and the COARSE... does one affect the other.. i have touched up the FINE but cant seem to get the COARSE to do anything.. is the COARSE the convergance in the service menu.... i have turned VM off completely by making the VMLE value 0....

i really appreciate you answering my ?'s.. i saw your post about buying a service manual and i did late last night... but thought in the mean time why not touch it up a little.. so the COARSE takes care of all the geometry stuff and the FINE is the convergance is that correct....

marc ive never bought a servie manual before does it tell you how to do everything like specifically setup the geometry cause i do have some pincushion on 480p and 1080i its not real bad but its noticiable and it kinda bugs me..... i did notice on the coarse with RGB you could move the image up and down but that was it unless you could tell me some more.. i didnt save the settings in coarse i was just trying to get a feel for what i could do with it.... any kinda tips on this before i get the service manual would be great... thanks for your help..

Hi,
I've had it implied that the newer x25 DLP machines will integrate better with a HTPC than the x13/x15 CRTs - any comments?

I have tried to read every post in this thread, and I saw where some are outputting DVD video to the x13, but what about using it as a general pc monitor? The wife would like to be able to open emails/surf the web w/ a wireless keyboard from the couch, and the kids to play CDROM games. I am really leaning toward going with this more mature technology (CRT) over some of the teething pains going on with the DLPs regarding rainbows, eyestrain etc. Can anyone help with info on how well these models do as PC monitors, and how best to set it up?

Thanks in advance,
Paul

i have the 65813 and a sammy kirk. both are awesome, but I'd definately lean toward a digital set for regular pc, htpc use and gaming including console games. Also, karaoke, dvd games, hd sports.

enjoy.
jb