Don â€“ I agree the best solution would be to force the local stations to supply guide OTA to the 921. Problem is that is not going to happen for years â€“ if ever. If Dish Network wants â€˜Joeâ€™ user to buy a 921 they will have to fix the problem.
They donâ€™t need to use a national feed for the local guide. They already have guide information for something close to 80% of the TV markets TODAY. For example, I took a look at the Salt Lake City locals on Dish Network at my Dads house last weekend. The guide is specific to Salt Lake City. Even the seldom watched or even heard of channels had guide information specific to Salt Lake. All I am asking is that Dish Network change the software on the 921 so that it will show the guide information that is already supplied for Salt Lake (and the other local markets).
I have the $$$ for a 921 or an HD DirecTivo standing by â€“ just waiting for the one that gets me HD PVR functions for both OTA and Satellite. It seems fairly certain that it will be DirecTivo. I donâ€™t like the idea because I already have Dish Network setup that I disconnected when they took away my LA/NY channels. Also the 921 has analog RGB and the possibility of 1394 in the future. I just wonâ€™t be able to justify the $1000 + $90 a month for something that is going to say â€˜Off air programâ€™ 25 times for the shows my family watches. If you record 8 OTA shows using the 1980 way of setting up a VCR do you get â€˜Off Air Programâ€™ 8 times in the PVR list? How do you know whatâ€™s recorded? Do you just have to start each program to see what it is? Not worth the money at this point.
I am on the fence on what PVR to get mostly because of the lack of the guide info or at least the guide would tip the scales and Iâ€™d get a 921 as soon as I could find one. My dilemma is over in this thread. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0&pagenumber=1
I just looked into my dark and semi-accurate crystal ball and here is what I see..
1. Within the next few months someone in power at Dish Network - maybe someone on the board will get a 921.
2. The board member will think that it is the coolest thing ever created.
3. They will then notice that most of the HD programming they want to watch is OTA and find that to time shift with OTA they have to time travel back to 1980.
4. They will call the head Techknowgeek at Dish and ask â€˜Why the hell is there no guide info for the OTA?â€™
5. Head Techknowgeek comes up with some lame answer and is told to â€˜Just fix it!â€™.
6. Techknowgeek then updates the software on the 921 effectively to â€˜copy and pasteâ€™ the guide info from the LIL guide to the OTA guide.
7. Board member is now happy because he has Denver locals.
8. Dish tells people if they want to have OTA guide that they can to subscribe to their locals and the 921 will then fill in the OTA guide.
9. Customers complain that because they can get OTA they donâ€™t need to subscribe.
10. Dish tells the complainers that there is some technical reason that they have to subscribe to the locals just to get the OTA guide.
11. Customers still complain about having to subscribe to locals to get OTA guide.
12. Dish changes the PVR fee from $4.99 to $11.99 and says it is because they have added the OTA guide that Tivo has had for years. Really Dish just adds the local channels to the customerâ€™s subscription and calls it good.
13. I get DirecTivo because my family wants to kill me for even suggesting they use TV guide to see what is on TV.
14. Dish Network doesnâ€™t care that I switched to DirecTv.