UnOfficial MyHD MDP-120/DVI card thread - part 2 - Page 133

g,

I'm going to try this address from website
station_management@whdh.com

I could use a little backup (this worked with a WGBH problem a couple of years ago).
Be nice.
I will mention some of my symptoms and add "the the SUB-CH button doesn't present you with a menu of program streams in the transport stream file, there is a problem with its PMT/PAT structure" from TPeterson's suggestion.

Thanks,
Mike Cocorochio

I am now also getting a blank screen with channel 7-1 out of Boston on my mdp-130 card.

Edit:
I just manually added D42 again, which added 7-2, and now I can get 7-1 again.

Vic

I just upgraded my PC with an MDP-120 card to Vista Ultimate. Drivers are v1.65.2.0. I get a BSOD in MDP100.SYS when un-hibernating, and the system then does a cold boot. When launched, the MyHD TV app pops up numerous "unsupported OS version" warnings, then exits.

Well, that's odd...unsupported OS...hmm I wonder what that could indicate. So the only change you made was updating your OS? well I'm stumped




look here before you leap--o wait...I guess it's a little late for that.

Paul, there's a thread for MyHD and Vista where you may find some help, but for starters I'd recommend updating your MyHD sw to the latest released version, 1.66.1 (link is in the MDP-130 MetaFAQ).

Edit: I see that Mike beat me to it.

Thanks TPeterson,
Good advice as usual.

I just got the following from WHDH:
Mike,

Thank you for pointing out this problem. We have confirmed what you
are
experiencing, and will work to fix this issue right away.

Jim Shultis
Director of Engineering

This a bit different from the response I got from local WGBH two years ago on another problem. They responded that there was not a problem, but they somehow fixed it that week anyway. This one was refreshingly candid.

Mike Cocorochio

I've been having a problem getting continuous playback of any previously recorded timeshift files. I record using On Demand timeshift and then I'll stop the recording. I preserve the buffer files for subsequent playback. I launch the first file in the recording and the playback stops after the first segment rather than continue onto the next segment in the recording. I have to launch each individual segment because it will stop playback (or go to the next file in the play list if it exists) after the current segment. I've even tried adding the timeshift recording into the File Play List but it still stops after the first segment in the selected file. I do have the "Play the next-numbered file continuously" option selected for file playback but I assume that's just for timer recordings. I'm at the current release level and this problem first popped up in the previous version. It worked fine in 1.65. I can get continuous playback if I drag the playback slider while recording a timeshift but not while playing back a previously recorded timeshift session. Am I missing a setting somewhere or what?

The Timeshift buffer files are not intended to be played in File Mode. Their names are not correct for that and they're too small. If you want to preserve and play their contents as a file you need to load the buffer segments into an editor such as H2M and save them as a normal file or set of files.

I'm pretty sure this worked o.k. in 1.65 and maybe before. I'll take your suggestion though and thanks.

Thanks, I've got the MDP-120 working with Vista Ultimate now. As that thread pointed out, the trick was to run the v1.66E installer in XP SP2 compatibility mode, and then run the MyHD TV application in XP SP2 compatibility mode.

I have Directv but I do use Comcast JUST for my internet access.

I recently bought a new HDTV (Sharp AQuos LCD) with a built in ATSC tuner and in the avsforum thread people are talking about hooking this TV directly to their cable.


I know nothing about cable TV but the forum says that my new TV has a QAM tuner.

From that thread, I was curious so I hooked my cable to the TV (remember, I only have it for Broadband internet)and it found a bunch of Digital channels.


So, I tried the same thing with my MDP-120/DVI card but no luck.
Ie. I hooked the Cable to Ant1 and had it do a scan. It found nothing.

I even forced a manual channel entry since I know that channel 75,for example, is the Lifetime channel
Again, nothing but snow.


I see a grayed out checkbox on the MYHD control panel that says "Enable QAM Scanning"

How do you get it to be Checkable?

Thanks

The MDP-120 is not QAM capable. The MDP-130 is.

I'm contemplating a partial upgrade for my HTPC/everyday computer. Currently it's this:

MSI KT3 Ultra2
AMD Athlon XP 1700+
BFG geforce 6600 GT OC AGP video card
Crucial/Samsung Original PC2700 2x512 MB for 1 GB
MyHD 120 + daughterboard
No SATA support


So, I'm thinking of getting another motherboard and possibly another CPU. A motherboard with onboard LAN would give me another PCI slot, plus SATA HD support. I've seen posts saying that some system upgrades won't play well with the MyHD. I'm contemplating the MSI 8HDA3+ mainboard and a Sempron 754 CPU, anywhere from 2800+ to 3200+. If this isn't a good idea, I might keep my present motherboard (or get a motherboard that supports Athlon XP's and SATA with onboard LAN such as the Epox 8KRAI or AKRAIPro) and just get an Athlon XP 2200+ CPU. My HTPC is also my everyday computer, so HTPC performance is not the only issue, but obviously I want it to work well as an HTPC. Can anyone counsel me on the compatibility with the MyHD 120? Thanks!

Muse, as long as you stick with vanilla chipsets and PCI (non Express) mobos, I don't think that you can go far wrong w.r.t. MDP compatibility. The nice thing about socket 939 and 754 is that you can continue to use your old DRAM sticks while enjoying the new stuff like onboard gigabit LAN, built-in speedy video, and SATA HDD. But these mobos' customers are getting scant respect from their vendors in these days of AM2 ascendancy. If you go dual-core you'll lose MyHD DVD and network LAN play (unless you disable the second core) but otherwise you're more likely to run into a Windows vagary and mobo-vendor neglect than MyHD incompatibility. (Case in point: My recent new toy is an ASUS A8N-VM-CSM/NBP mobo with built-in nVidia 6150B video and it works perfectly with MyHD, but it has a BIOS bug that hasn't been fixed in over a year, which prevents me from changing its parallel port from the default ECP to any other option, and it BSODs upon resume from S4 under Windows 2000 if a dual-core CPU is running with both cores. N.B.: This is not a MyHD problem, as it happens with no PCI cards at all installed.)

I bought a new MDP-120 off eBay cheap and I suppose one of the reasons for the low price was that it did not come with a manual. I figured I'd just download it and print it. When I did a google search for it, the the only real option seamed to be from digitalconnection.com. I downloaded all 4.4mb of that manual to find that apparently the manual is contained in 305 separate documents. To have to open and print 305 individual documents is ridiculous, so I did a search in this thread and found a link to a recent version of the manual apparently put online by Cliff. However, when I clicked on the link, it just gave me a blank "file not found" screen.

Is there anyplace I can get a downloadable MDP-120 manual that doesn't consist of hundreds of individual files? Most other products have a single file that you can click on, then click print and presto, your printer gives you a manual - can anyone provide me with a link for such a MyHD manual? Thanks

Read the MyHD MDP-130 Meta FAQ item F.1. There's no significant difference between the 120 and the 130 manuals, AFAICR.

I just downloaded from the link on the DC page pointed to ultimately by the FAQ and my PDF reader is perfectly happy to print it as an 83-page single document, should I care to do that. So if yours won't you must need a newer/different PDF reader.

Terry has provided you with the link. I create a shortcut to the manual, that makes it easy to get information. Because I have more than one version of Acrobat I use the following:

"D:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Acrobat 7.0\\Reader\\Reader\\AcroRd32.exe" D:\\PDF_Files\\H D T V\\Recorders\\MDP-120\\MyHD_Manual_v1.65.2E.pdf

Windows will not do the above automatically if the desired program is different than the one listed in the association table. The info inside the quotes tells the shortcut what program to use, the info to the right tells the shortcut what document the program should load (make sure you have the SPACE delimiter).

Thanks guys!

Thanks, Terry. When you say non Express mobos, I wonder if you mean mobos that have the PCI slots I need for the MyHD and daughterboard. One of the boards I'm looking at has 3 PCI slots and a couple of PCI-E slots (one 16x, one 1x). I'm contemplating a couple of MSI mobos,

MSI K8N Neo V2.0 H (MS-7030) (has 5 PCI, AGP, Nforce 3 250 chipset)

MSI K8N Neo3 H (MS-7135) (has 3 PCI, 1 PCI-E, 16x and 1 PCI-E 1x, Nforce 4)

They are both socket 754, each has only 2 DDR slots, but they are budget boards. I figure the Nforce 4 board will be a better choice if I can deal with the paucity of PCI slots somehow, in that it will support Vista. I don't know if or when I will want to go Vista on it, but I'd have that option. Is just having PCI-E support a showstopper, or is it the lack of PCI support?

Neither of these boards have built in video, fax or firewire. But they support some pretty good CPU's, SATA (and IDE) at least one has gigabit LAN (maybe both), and I can get them pretty cheap. I'm hoping my 6600 GT AGP (and of course, the MyHD cards) will work reasonably well in the nForce 4 board (I'm pretty sure it would be fine in the nForce 3 board).

What do you mean by "MDP" compatibility?

There are virtually no mobos that support both PCI-e and AGP. Biostar made some, but they were peculiar birds with a proprietary sort-of AGP slot and I wouldn't bet on them for general hw compatibility with any non-mainstream (read: HDTV) stuff. So, unless you opt for a non-PCI-e mobo or one with built-in video, you're going to need a new video card to replace your AGP one. (That makes those "budget" mobos look like less of a deal, IMO)

I can recommend the ASUS mobo mentioned previously, as long as you're happy leaving the PP set to ECP mode and either use a non-X2 CPU or run WinXP. (Then, of course, you have to find one!) Check the list on the DC website for known MDP-incompatible mobos, which were (I think) only those among the first crop released with PCI-e slots. Aside from that list and my own good experience with the ASUS, I have no direct knowledge about "compatibility".

Maybe I'll get the AGP PCI board. Downside is no Vista compatibility and crummy support. It is cheap! I suppose the potential for conflicts with the MDP are much reduced, as well. Thing is, the nForce 4, PCI-E board does have AGP compatibility of sorts with an AGR slot, that probably will work to some degree (!) with my dual-DVI BFG 6600 GT AGP card. It's said to be wired to the PCI bus, and will not give true AGP features. Also, the vid card has to be able to tolerate 3.3v, which I don't know about.

Prices of PCI-E video cards are dropping, and I can get the PCI-E version of my current video card for around $60 after MIR at Newegg.

DC says that MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, is compatible, but that's a different board than the Nforce 4 board I'm considering here. I believe it's 939, for one, plus it has a 3rd PCI-E connection and one more PCI slot, I believe.

So, the issue isn't that the MyHD doesn't work with PCI-E video cards, then?

As far as that Asus MB goes, my PP supports my printer right now (HP4M), but I have a Jetdirect network card which I haven't installed yet in the printer, which should enable me to forego using the PP altogether, if I'm not mistaken. Can connect the printer directly to my router for access to all my PCs.

I guess the simplest upgrade right now (other than shopping for a used Mobile Barton and dropping it in my current system and overclocking it) is just to get that cheap 754 AGP 5xPCI board and figure if and when I want to run Vista on my desktop I'll be shopping again for computer parts! Meantime, my laptop does support Vista, but I'll have to apply for my Vista upgrade to get it.

Hope I am not jumping in out of context but I have an MDP-120 running on an Athlon X2 ASUS Mboard WITH a PCI-E Video Card.

Muse--

There have been reports of MDP + PCI-e video cards failing to work together on this forum, but that seems to be a function of the mobo/BIOS rather than a generic problem. From my experience with the ASUS NF410/GF6150 mobo above I conclude that a reasonably well-designed NF4 mobo is MyHD "compatible", so that your chances for success are good if you go with one of the leading vendors' mainstream mobos. But...you may run into weirdness, as I did, that has nothing to do with MyHD but does have to do with using the board in "non standard" ways (such as asking that it resume from S4 under Win2k with an X2 CPU???).

Joe--

Thanks for the confirmation. IIRC, you posted about some problems initially so it's good to hear that they were resolved.

What is "resume from s4?" I've never heard of it. Is it anything like waking from suspend or hibernation state? TIA.

BTW, I called BFG and they said my AGP card will not tolerate 3.3v (only 1.5v). Don't know that the guy I was talking to knows his oats, but I have to think my chances of needing a PCI-E video card if I get that nforce 4 board are fair to good.

"S4" == "hibernation"

If you get one of the NF410 boards that uses its GF 6150 hw, you won't need any separate video card, since the built-in gear is good enough for HDTV (with, e.g., FusionHDTV) and, of course, you don't need even that much horsepower if your only HD need is via the MDP.

Thanks. Well, I made a decision that constricts my immediate upgrade plans. That was to buy a 754 CPU at Newegg yesterday:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 2.2GHz 512KB L2 Cache socket 754, 49.00 shipped

So, I'm restricted to a MB that will play nicely with that CPU. I don't usually fret over computer hardware decisions, but I'm uncertain of this choice. With the nforce 4 board, I'd probably have to get a PCI-E video card, but I'd have Vista potential with it, 4 SATA drive support instead of 2, and whatever other advantages there are by virtue of nforce 4 over nforce 3. I'd sacrifice 2 PCI slots, and it would cost $15 more. Decisions, decisions.

PS I'm having a problem with posting this message - can't insert a hyperlink, for some reason. Is there a bug going on or is it on my end? None of the other tag generated features off the icon-buttons are working either.... including smilies.
The smilie displayed was generated by keystrokes.

Edit: I'm now in my alternate partition. I have to assume it's a problem with AVS Forums. Still no smilies...

You mean, like these?

I see no such problems here, my friend.

Cool, thanks. Well I'll try again and see what happens. I've rebooted several times already. Nope, no smilies for me. Argh!

Man, I need an upgrade. I just pulled the trigger on that N3 mobo. Life is simple again... until I get the mobo, that is. Then I build my new system, install OS, etc. etc. Probably be pretty happy about things, then. I have no clue why none of the automated stuff is working at AVS Forums. I think I'll try downloading Firefox and making it my default browser in the interim!!! Copy/paste:

Is this a clue? When I tried to bold "Copy/paste:" everything jumped and this was near the top of the IE6 page (TWICE!):

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Please try the following:

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Have you checked your LAN hardware?

Um, how would that factor in? I'm running a BuffaloWHR-HP-G54 wireless router and am connected to it by Cat5.

I don't know. I ran Spybot S&D and Adaware and rebooted. I'm going to download Firefox tomorrow.