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post #181 of 209
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Originally posted by frogster
I finally got xbmc installed. The replaytv support is impressive! I'm also impressed by the whole xbox media center. I now have a networkable DVD player, divx player, replaytv client, photo viewer, mp3 player, weather viewer, ... BTW, I heard you can play games with these things too.

Thanks to all involved!
Ya it works pretty well. But what really kills me is how carefull everyone has to be about posting stuff about this. The whole thing is dark and shady.

I think when the 23rd century history of the early 21th century is published its going to mention that the biggest impact of the entertainment industry's blantent attempt to force DMR management on anything that can recieve a video signal was to turn ordinary citizens into hackers.
It probably will also compare this eras absession with simulation vs. reality to that of the dark ages. (we spend more time and money as a culture on simulated events (tv , movies) than we do on real aka. Moon / Mars missions. It probably will have some nasty things to say about how the effort was seeded by campaign contributions to members of congress.

(hey just an opinion, but remember within the next few decades the majority of politicians are going to be from the mp3 generation).

OK , where I'm I going, It was more of a pain to find all the pieces to get this working than it should of been.

However not only can I see my replays, but by feeding the stream back into my pc and beyond tv3 I'm also able to stream to my pocket pc in wmv format, and control xbmc with its web interface.
post #182 of 209
As was mentioned a few posts above.

You can browse DVA shares using the RTV protocol by leaving the video/ in the share definition within MediaCenter.xml.

Provided of course, that you have told DVA to give nice sensible names to the .mpgs
post #183 of 209
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Originally posted by Slack
As was mentioned a few posts above.

You can browse DVA shares using the RTV protocol by leaving the video/ in the share definition within MediaCenter.xml.

Provided of course, that you have told DVA to give nice sensible names to the .mpgs
Sorry, you miss the beauty of feeding the video back through the pc.

The media player on the ipaq can only decode wmv streams not mpeg. Beyond tv takes takes the mpeg stream converts it to wmv on the fly and streams it to the pocket pc. Works with dvd also.

XBMC can also read the snapstream feeds too.
post #184 of 209
Anyone know if/when the xbmc pc port would support rtv streams, since the pc port doesn't use the xdk can I assume it will just compile with visual studio. How hard would it be to add the rtv sections to the pc port.

I'm starting to evaluate packages. Because I want to build a htpc, not that I don't love my replaytv's . I just look at this as a fun project, and maybe insuarance in the unlikely event that dm&r discountinues the brand. Based on the new ns100 product comming from dnna (3,000 - 5,000 dollars, yipe) which uses the replay guide that probably won't happen.

But I think it might be fun to build my own pvr. Any ideas, I'm trying for 1 terabyte by next year.


Here's my parts list so far:

modest processor 1.8 - 2.4 g
1 g memory

Low end graphics accellerator
802.11g and wired ethernet
Hauppage pvr350
Windows 2000 or Xp, or Redhat Linux, or Winxp with linux running in VM
Linux running mythtv
XP hosting beyond tv server
And quicktime streaming server

350 gb internal drive
support for two additional 200 - 350gb firewire drives

Buy using the external drives and low end card I can keep cooling to a single fan, power supply needs to be energystar complient
post #185 of 209
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Originally posted by wg21
Sorry, you miss the beauty of feeding the video back through the pc.

The media player on the ipaq can only decode wmv streams not mpeg. Beyond tv takes takes the mpeg stream converts it to wmv on the fly and streams it to the pocket pc. Works with dvd also.

XBMC can also read the snapstream feeds too.
I missed nothing.
I wasn't responding to your post.

I was clarifying my previous post regarding XBMC locking up when attempting to parse the shownames from a DVA box. Simple fix (aside from the obvious, of setting up a windows SMB share of the all the Local_Guide directories) is to point the DVA share to the 'RTV' /video partition of the DVA 'RTV'. This forces XBMC to use the RTV protocol which is supposedly better for streaming than any SMB share.

Your posts are generally so rambling and unrelated to the thread topic you are encroaching upon Icecow's title. I've even seen you quote yourself, you sure you aren't icecow?
post #186 of 209
Just got XBMC installed.... Awesome... now I have a problem 2 RTV's and an xbox, but only 2 tvs to play on.......better get another TV now:D
post #187 of 209
Isn't it amazing? I have 2 RTVs and 2 xbox's. I have a one of each hooked up to my 2 TVs.

one nice thing about xbmc is the ability to adjust screen settings. my TV was cutting off a good 1/3 of the picture.
post #188 of 209
hey guys - okay ive been considering a mod for quite a while - i just never got to it - now i only have a laptop - is there anyway i can mod an xbox without actually doing a harddrive swap or hwo can i do it with a laptop?

maybe go through ftp? this is without a chip -

thanks
post #189 of 209
Well

to run XBMC without a chip, you have three options

1. Font exploit
2. Sound exploit
3. Either 1 or 2 then flash the TSOP (flashing the onboard bios)

Flashing the onboard bios can be dangerous - if you mess up, you've got no more working machine. I think the only way out of a broken machine that you want to continue using is to have it modded. Having it modded will not only allow for you to reflash the old onboard bios, but to also leave it alone and run bioses off of the chip.

I forget which of #1 or #2 is supposed to be safer. Although, one of them is supposed to be less work. But, either way, I think both require removing the hard drive (not necessarily replacing, but just removing and doing some stuff).

I can't seem think of a way without doing a hard drive swap to do any of this. I think there is one, but sort of not really thinking so at the same time. With hard drive swap, I really don't think you can do it on a laptop. Except, there is a possibility of doing it on a laptop if you have an external firewire/usb enclosure.

Try looking into http://www.xbox-scene.com to see what your options might be.
post #190 of 209
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Originally posted by reactions
hey guys - okay ive been considering a mod for quite a while - i just never got to it - now i only have a laptop - is there anyway i can mod an xbox without actually doing a harddrive swap or hwo can i do it with a laptop?

maybe go through ftp? this is without a chip -

thanks
1) It has never been a requirement to pull the drive to mod an xbox.
2) Hardware mod chips are not expensive.
3) If your laptop has a parallel port then you can flash the mod chip. Otherwise look for chip that comes pre-flashed (although I don't think they come that way for legal reasons.
4) If you do not have an XBOX now go get one quickly before the 1.6 versions fill the pipe. they have yet to be cracked. tick, tick, tick, although it's only a matter of time.
post #191 of 209
If you get a smartxx mod chip, you can flash the bios from your computer. Other ones require you to burn a bios on a CD-RW first.
post #192 of 209
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Originally posted by frogster
If you get a smartxx mod chip, you can flash the bios from your computer. Other ones require you to burn a bios on a CD-RW first.
*edit* did a google search and found what I was looking for....
post #193 of 209
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Originally posted by Slack
1) It has never been a requirement to pull the drive to mod an xbox.
2) Hardware mod chips are not expensive.
3) If your laptop has a parallel port then you can flash the mod chip. Otherwise look for chip that comes pre-flashed (although I don't think they come that way for legal reasons.
4) If you do not have an XBOX now go get one quickly before the 1.6 versions fill the pipe. they have yet to be cracked. tick, tick, tick, although it's only a matter of time.
1. he's talking about doing a hotswap on the HD when you need to put the hacked save games into the XBOX but you don't have a memory card with the hack.
2. Ranges between $15 - $60 :: could be expensive if you want to go fancy.
3. Nowadays, once you get your XBOX modded and running Evox (dashboard), you can flash the BIOS from the menu. And the 4th generation modchips allow you to FTP the new BIOS file into the HD and flash the BIOS.
post #194 of 209
Yeah, buy a mod chip and risk ending up on some list somewhere, might be safer to buy a used xbox and flash the original bios.

I really I'm perplexed, the original apple was developed in someones garage from space parts and reverse engineering... could someone even do that today. This whole dmca thing makes me sick... lot of these new mod chips don't even let you play copied games.. They should be legal... But not in microsofts mind.. MS even goes so far to "restore" your system if you buy the wrong new game.
I think twice everytime I apply a windows security update.... Is this going to put some new DRM garbage on my machine , taking away a function I paid for.. Microsoft now is touting the fact they can block "Traditional analog channels".

The risk of losing a original bios from flashing it is pretty low in my mind.
post #195 of 209
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Originally posted by wg21
Yeah, buy a mod chip and risk ending up on some list somewhere, might be safer to buy a used xbox and flash the original bios.

I really I'm perplexed, the original apple was developed in someones garage from space parts and reverse engineering... could someone even do that today. This whole dmca thing makes me sick... lot of these new mod chips don't even let you play copied games.. They should be legal... But not in microsofts mind.. MS even goes so far to "restore" your system if you buy the wrong new game.
I think twice everytime I apply a windows security update.... Is this going to put some new DRM garbage on my machine , taking away a function I paid for.. Microsoft now is touting the fact they can block "Traditional analog channels".

The risk of losing a original bios from flashing it is pretty low in my mind.
I wouldn't worry about a list.

I do worry about what these "updates" contain and spyware. If you ever run zone alarm, it's scary to see how many programs send data over the internet.
post #196 of 209
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Originally posted by frogster
I wouldn't worry about a list.

I do worry about what these "updates" contain and spyware. If you ever run zone alarm, it's scary to see how many programs send data over the internet.
They just recently cracked down on a site selling modchips, when they do they comfiscate the sales records.

As for updates and spyware, I got hit by the webfavorites, it was a pain to get rid of. What was annoying was that neither adaware or spybot found it, A program I purchased callled pest patrol found it. I knew I had it when zone alarm alerted me to a program called bridge trying to connect.

But what I was talking about, is microsoft wants to make auto-update on by default, now from a security point of view that makes since, but if they wanted to and they will add additional drm stuff to windows media you couldn't do much about it.

On the xbox they have been updated the dashboards on modded xboxes.
post #197 of 209
What site did they crackdown on? was it MS, the DOJ, or the FBI? There are plenty of US based mod chip retailers out there. It's my understanding that modchips alone are legal.
post #198 of 209
quote from the register.

David Rocci, who sold the Enigmah mod chips for the Xbox from the site, Isonews.com (the domain was seized by the US Department of Justice last month
post #199 of 209
Mod chips weren't what the govenment was looking for on isonews. Having complete downloads of copyrighted materials was the target.
post #200 of 209
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Originally posted by tarfin
Mod chips weren't what the govenment was looking for on isonews. Having complete downloads of copyrighted materials was the target.
The article in the register talked specifically about mod chips, and how this might frighten other mod chip manufacturers. I'm just quoting what I read, don't shoot the messenger.

DirectTV has been targeting customers of eprom programmer chips just because they can be used for pirating directtv. Go to the electronic freedom foundation org website and read about that.

All I'm saying its not safe to order this kind of stuff through the internet. The Microsofts of the world don't even want you to put a really benign bios like cromwell on this equipment. They have some crazy idea that they retain ownership of the computers, games etc. Their is even some talk in industry circles of having ISP actively scan home computers for viruss. You know what they could also do with that.

1984 came a bit later than we all thought.
post #201 of 209
Gee thanks for the heads up wg21. I'm gonna go remove my modchip and make restitiution to MS for the lost revenue, no wait, they only sold me an xbox because the modchip was available. hmmmm. Maybe I'll just get me one of these and sleep easy.
post #202 of 209
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Originally posted by Slack
Gee thanks for the heads up wg21. I'm gonna go remove my modchip and make restitiution to MS for the lost revenue, no wait, they only sold me an xbox because the modchip was available. hmmmm. Maybe I'll just get me one of these and sleep easy.
You miss my point entirely, I'm totally against these tactics from MS. In fact as I was downloading the updates for windows which protects against the sasser worm I was in the back of my mind designing a kind of proxy server which would work in conjunction with automatic update to filter out those MS updates and enchancements I don't want.

all I was pointing out that you had to be careful ordering online or even talking about this stuff. Until we can get some real political clout to rid congress of those folks who are on the media companies payroll , we need to be careful.
post #203 of 209
Here is an article about it:

http://www.defacto2.net/web.pages/isonews1.htm

"According to plea papers, Rocci intentionally marketed the Enigmah chip, which sold for between $45 and $60 a piece, as a device that would allow individuals to play pirated games from "all release groups" on their Xbox consoles. "

It sounds to me like he was arrested for promoting piracy instead of just selling modchips.

I do agree with wg21 that being careful is in order. I wouldn't want to be on David Rocci's customer list.

The problem is with this language of the DMCA"
to distribute tools that can be used to circumvent copyright controls on digital products
This language is so open ended and ambiguous that it would be hard to find an electronic device that doesn't fall into that category.
post #204 of 209
Getting a mod chip is overkill for just running XBMC. You don't care about switching back to the original bios to play xbox live! or any things like that. Flashing the BIOS is easy if you can close two bridges on the motherboard with conductive ink, and then you flash it using a savegame and the 007 Agent under Fire DVD. From there you can load up Evox and FTP XBMC over and run it as your dash. You don't need to solder unless you end up with a box with the sharp chip in it (low odds).

If you manage to blow the BIOS you then go ahead and get a mod chip and reflash the BIOS that way. Flashing the TSOP really is pretty easy and works well for XBMC.

It works so well talking to my replay and also plays all my MP3's that I ripped from my CD collection. The 5-2-04 version is the best yet and very stable. Plus, I demo my config to friends with Tivo's and make them squirm with envy. :-)

Thanks,
Mike
post #205 of 209
Mike,

Don't you need to buy a $20-30 memory card to do this?
post #206 of 209
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Originally posted by frogster
Mike,

Don't you need to buy a $20-30 memory card to do this?
I believe so I've always used a modchip so don't know for sure. You can get 3rd party memory cards for about $10 sometimes.
post #207 of 209
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Originally posted by tarfin
Mod chips weren't what the govenment was looking for on isonews. Having complete downloads of copyrighted materials was the target.
Umm, no they didn't. They were only a sort of news site for the whole pirating scene. No downloads or copyrighted materials. They didn't even link to sites where you could download them either.

And yes, they probably went after him because he specifically stated the modchips were for playing pirated games. The other companies are smart and claim they are for backups of your own games. :rolleyes: ;)

P.S. The whole isonews bust was well over a year ago....not "recent".
post #208 of 209
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Originally posted by frogster
Mike,

Don't you need to buy a $20-30 memory card to do this?
You need to put the save games into the XBOX's HDs.

you could either buy an XBOX memory card.
or there are some USB flash drive that works (but you need a XBOX -> USB cable).

I tried both of the above ways.

3rd way is to do the HD hotswapping thing, where you boot the XBOX and then while the power is still on plug it to your computer.. sounded kinda dangerous to me but people said it works.
post #209 of 209
I used a XBOX to USB cable and used a flash card, but there are lots of ways of doing this. Look on xbox-scene for tutorials...

All I can say is that flashing the TSOP is a great way of doing one's and two's. If you are doing a lot of upgrades, you should get a modchip that mounts without soldering and just attach it long enough to flash the tsop (you still need to close the two bridges).

BTW, the 1.6 version boxes are not yet crackable, so probably best to get a refurb (they are cheaper anyways)...

Thanks,
Mike

PS You can get used mem cards for $5 sometimes at EBgames. I got a mem card FAR at Fry's last month...
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