Optoma H30 review & screenshots - Page 20

veggieguy

"2) When feeding 480p, 720p, or 1080i to the H30, the image takes on a somewhat lighter, sort of washed out look, less color saturation, with an overall greenish-grey look. I've not yet gotten skin tones to look acceptable with these input settings. Some scenes without skin look better in when in 480i, though, so I'll keep playing with it"

I am having the same problem with 480p form my Denon 910. I had the Pioneer 653a (I think that was the model number) when set to 480p it was also lighter and gray. I took guitarman advice (Thanks) and used the only calibration tool I had the THX Optimizer I was able to get blacks to look good. But I liked the picture better on the Denon. So I returned the Pioneer and picked up the Denon again. Now when I try to calibrate it in 480p it is just to gray! The blacks just don't get black enough without the entire picture getting too dark. I am not able to set the H30 to even display the black line under the THX logo on the brightness adjustment screen I am going to try a different cable to night. I did use a VGA to BNC with the Pioneer and a regular RGB RCA cable with the Denon. I will try the VGA BNC with the Denon. I am still getting the room setup. Let me know if you have any luck. i will post soon with my results.

Max

guitarman, any links to the right mount?

just set up my h30 on the coffee table and this thing is sweet, now need to tweak it with aVIA

After some Googling, I came upon this thread which says that Chief doesn't make a mount for the LT150, due to fire safety reasons. Wouldn't you know it.

my guy from down here has a new type of mount that is universal and it could be ceiling mounted and also wall mount and is totally adjustable but i have to get a hold of him to get more info .


and the good thing is it is under 2 bones for this mount and he did say it will work good for this pj .

and come on guys give me some ideas on what screen material

Guess what? The remote doesn't work! Tested and tried various batteries and it's just dead.

However, set up the H30 with only s video cable and played a little Nemo and with my limited ability and patience with pressing the menu buttons on the top of the machine, I can only say, OH my G-d! The color and contrast on this thing with just S video is gorgeous. I brought the white setting down to 0.

I demo'd an X1 for about 3 mths and this just blows it away! Sorry to use every cliche in the book but I can't wait to get a working remote from Dell, not to mention component cables.

My only other disappointment is the throw from the back of my wall 12' away over my head to my 84" 4:3 screen is too large in 16:9. The X1 was able to adjust perfectly, is that something I'm doing wrong? I have it zoomed into the smallest size and it's still spilling over. If I can't adjust that issue then I'll have to look for a ceiling mount.

Scott

guitarman,

I did change the black level setting while playing a DVD. It helped a little bit. I will take a look in the setup again for a black level setting. I don't remember finding anything but could have missed it. I will also lower the RGB-brightness. That sounds like a great suggestion I will let you know how it goes. I want to keep the Denon they will probably usher me out of the store if I try to return it again.

Thanks for the info.
Max

Spoll, I had the exact same problem at first, and for me it turned out to be the batteries that came with the remote. I put the Optoma-supplied batteries in another remote and they work fine, but the Optoma remote won't work with them. I put some other batteries I had on hand into the Optoma remote and it works fine. Go figure. The batteries they sent seem imcompatible with their remote somehow.

Too bad that didn't solve your problem though.

which guy on ebay? it's hard to search for it. And I don't think I want a mount with a very long arm, something flush would be cooler

The guy with the dead remote might think otherwise, but I think this is freakin hilarious! Are they cheap cardboard batteries or something?

Maybe the remote is fragile, and batterie contacts get loose or ( ) corroded in storage/shipment?

That would make more sense, just removing and reinstalling them could do the trick...

That was my first thought as well, and believe me, I removed and reinstalled the original batteries quite a few times before I tried some others. I don't know why, but they just won't work in the Optoma remote. My son's Palm Pilot likes them fine though. I'd go look at the brand, but the Palm Pilot is away at the moment.

Tried different batteries, took them in and out and nada.

I've got a larger problem though, the image on my screen is skewed. All sides except for the upper right hand side are perpendicular. The image rises from the upper left to the upper right. It's not the keystone adjustment either,I've tried everything and it's not a perfect rectangle, very annoying.

I take back the excitement over Nemo also, the seen where they go into the depths with that lighted fish look awful with s video. I'm hoping that's a component vs. s video thing.

Not a happy camper.
Scott

username "jayblaine" sells the mount on Ebay. It's about as close to the ceiling as you can get. He has a lot of testimonials on his page, so it must work pretty well.

sent jayblaine an email wondering if he can adjust it for the h30

You could build a mount yourself if you're so inclined. Just use a speaker mount and an aluminum plate from a hobby shop. Just have to drill some holes and add bolts. The H30 is so light that just about any speaker mount will work.

Regarding the remote, although I never used it longer than to teach the commands to a universal remote, I found it to be pretty good for a stock remote. I can say that I have never heard of a remote's batteries not working with that remote (when the remote wasn't defective), but switching batteries with another remote results in both remotes working. That's one for the books.

Yes, definitely deal with Optoma on the remote. Dell won't have any to replace it with anyway.

Optoma is swapping out the remote, Dell is a nightmare.

I'll try to get into the menu tomorrow to adjust the shape, however I don't remember finding that ability there. I'll check it again.

When it rains it pours, my Onkyo receiver keeps shutting down now after playing audio for 60 seconds.

Time to go back to regular tube TV?

Scott

The "Signal" adjustment for adjusting horizontal and vertical position (under the "Image" heading) is not available for S-video, so that's why you didn't see it. It's only supported under analog RGB or component (YPbPr).

When I get the component cables for it will I then be able to correct the skewing of the image that I'd mentioned earlier? The image is rising up like it's on an incline from the upper leftside to the upper right.

yes mike you are right


hey so what type of screen material do you guys think and size\\for my set up

I recently built a new screen with instructions and material I got from an Ebay seller (moakes). Great quality material IMO. I made a 16:9 screen that's 80 X 45 (92" diagonal). The projector's about 13' back, but it could be as little as 11.7'.

QUOTE]Originally posted by MadMaxWI
veggieguy

"2) When feeding 480p, 720p, or 1080i to the H30, the image takes on a somewhat lighter, sort of washed out look, less color saturation, with an overall greenish-grey look. I've not yet gotten skin tones to look acceptable with these input settings. Some scenes without skin look better in when in 480i, though, so I'll keep playing with it"

I am having the same problem with 480p form my Denon 910. I had the Pioneer 653a (I think that was the model number) when set to 480p it was also lighter and gray. I took guitarman advice (Thanks) and used the only calibration tool I had the THX Optimizer I was able to get blacks to look good. But I liked the picture better on the Denon. So I returned the Pioneer and picked up the Denon again. Now when I try to calibrate it in 480p it is just to gray! The blacks just don't get black enough without the entire picture getting too dark. I am not able to set the H30 to even display the black line under the THX logo on the brightness adjustment screen I am going to try a different cable to night. I did use a VGA to BNC with the Pioneer and a regular RGB RCA cable with the Denon. I will try the VGA BNC with the Denon. I am still getting the room setup. Let me know if you have any luck. i will post soon with my results.

Max [/quote]

I had the same problems. Interlaced looked fine but progressive from a Panasonic RP56, Pioneer 810-Hs and a Samsung sir-t151 looked washed out with a green tint. That ain't right!

Mike,

Is that a measured 11.7, or a manual 11.7? I'm a bit weary of the differences between the screen calculator on Projectorcentral, the stated distance table in the manual, and the acual throw...



I know I will want to have everything at once, so I'd like to get this right...

Thanks

BTW, if the manual is the same as the pdf document they have on the Canadian Optoma site, it needs work. Alot of work...

I'm quite confused about the best input to use. Some people dislike s-video, some can't get progressive component to look right...The only input that has not come under fire yet is true 15 pin VGA.

The 11.7' is from the Optoma website calculator, which is fairly correct from my actual measurements.

Yes, the manual sucks. Look at the link I posted a page or so back for more description.

Regarding component input from a progressive scan DVD looking grey-green and washed out:

<<I had the same problems. Interlaced looked fine but progressive from a Panasonic RP56, Pioneer 810-Hs and a Samsung sir-t151 looked washed out with a green tint. That ain't right!


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Well, I tried the LG DVD player on a 17" Panasonic LCD TV using component progressive, and the picture seems fine. So, a potential problem with the H30? Any others able to test this? On the other hand, OTA HD looks great on the H30 when fed other than 480i from the LG tuner section...

John F

Try contacting "mandarax" here on AVS (see Canuck Shootout) he makes killer mounts.

Steve