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post #481 of 571
thanks for the update, I'd like to see/hear more about the HTIB as I have a friend that's looking for something along this line and he was thinking about getting a Bose satellite system. I told him to not waste his money.
post #482 of 571
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Originally Posted by todd1010 View Post

thanks for the update, I'd like to see/hear more about the HTIB as I have a friend that's looking for something along this line and he was thinking about getting a Bose satellite system. I told him to not waste his money.

No problem! Details on the Cinemicro HTiB are limited. All the information I have is the description from the price sheet. Basically, it is a system made up of (4) 2-way satellites, (1) 2-way center, and (1) HV81 sub. The satellites and center are finished in hand-rubbed high-gloss black, while the sub is black wood grain laminate. The HV81 is an 8" down-firing slot-loaded woofer driven by a 150 watt amp. MSRP is $900.00. I should have literature soon, and if they send a PDF, I'll try to upload it here. Since this system is new for the Feb.1 price sheet, I would expect PT to have it on their website shortly.

Best,
TDI
post #483 of 571
Solon - High Def Installations, a company recently formed by me (a 30 year A/V enthusiast), is now a licensed dealer for PHASE TECHNOLOGY speakers. My name is Jack and my experience with Phase Tech speakers started in 1997 when I bought a pair of floor standing 5 T's. Since then, my appreciation for how these speakers sound has grown and today - I am a bigger fan of these speakers than ever.

My current set-up is using speakers from the Premier Collection:
Denon 2309CI - AV Receiver
Phase Technology PC 1.5's - front speakers
Phase Technology PC 0.5's - surround speakers
Phase Technology PC 33.5 - center channel speaker
SVS SB-12plus - sub-woofer made in Ohio

My agreement does NOT allow me to sell mail order or over the internet. You must be close enough to pick them up or for orders over $1,000 - I will deliver them to your door (counties in NE Ohio only).

I will give you the best price on an extremely great product.
Please contact me with any questions that you may have.

Jack
post #484 of 571
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Originally Posted by TDI Driver View Post


Now for the big news. Pricing is going way up on February 1 across the board (and I mean way up on some). If Phase Tech was on your short list, get out there now and save some money!

That's all I got for now. Enjoy your weekend, everyone!

Hi Jason,

Can you give us updates on the new MSRP's for the Premier and Velocity lines? I am looking to upgrade to soon and would like to know the numbers for comparison.

Thanks in advance,

Nick
post #485 of 571
Here's the new MSRP Pricing effective Feb. 1, 2010:

Premiere Collection -
PC 0.5 = $543 ea
PC 1.5 = $630 ea
PC 3.5 = $1,150 ea
PC 33.5 = $685 ea
PC 9.5 = $1,775 ea
PC Surround = $788 ea

Phase Velocity Series -
V-4 = $375 ea
V-6 = $465 ea
V-8 = $520 ea
V-10 = $635 ea
V-12 = $910 ea
V Surround = $463 ea

I hope this info helps.
These are fantastic sounding speakers for movies and music.
If you are close to NE Ohio, I can certainly help you with the pricing.

Jack
post #486 of 571
The prices sure went up.
In early January I bought a pair of V-surrounds and the V-6 center. Retail then was $650/pr and $350.
Bought 'em from Soundscape in the S.F. Bay area. I even got a discount for a "package" deal since the owner was still in the holiday mood.
They seem to work well with my 15 year old PT 7T's and my newer Polk 111.
post #487 of 571
I'm not sure why either, have not got a solid answer yet.
The prices that you quoted were correct - I have the 2009 pricing sheets as well.
Overall, the PC line didn't jump as much as the Velocity Series and some speakers within a line increased more than others.

Jack
post #488 of 571
Soundscape Audio's (in Santa Rosa Calif') website still shows the same prices I paid and for the other PT speakers they sell. Maybe he hasn't updated prices but if you're looking to buy then try them. Maybe if he has speakers in stock that were purchased before the hike then his website prices are still good?
Marc (the owner) was very helpful to me over the phone with my questions.
post #489 of 571
Thanks alot Jack. However I am in New England so I don't it will be possible to do business with you. Please keep us updated on news and findings you have involving Phase Tech.

Nick
post #490 of 571
Will do. Phase Tech responded to my inquiry about the pricing increase. They replied that it was long overdue and were getting hurt by the modest increases across the previous years. I will be installing some of their ceiling speakers soon and I'm looking forward to that experience. I liked Ken's video on youtube.

Jack
post #491 of 571
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Originally Posted by GangGreenD View Post

Hi Jason,

Can you give us updates on the new MSRP's for the Premier and Velocity lines? I am looking to upgrade to soon and would like to know the numbers for comparison.

Thanks in advance,

Nick

Hi Nick,

Sorry for not responding earlier, but thanks to Jack @ Solon-HD (no affiliation even though we're in the same state, in case anyone was wondering) the price increase has been posted.

In other developments, MSE Audio released a new Phase Tech full line brochure, and I was surprised to see the absence of two Velocity models, the V8 and V12. While the V8, in my opinion, was not the best speaker in this familiy, the V12 was a very good seller for us. Because of a misprint in the full line brochure, I e-mailed MSE to inform them and to inquire about the V8 and V12. They confirmed that both the V8 and V12 have been discontinued.

Other models not in the new catalog include the Arte on-wall and HV Series subwoofers. The HV800 was to get replaced anyway, but so far there has been no more information on its replacement or the CineMicro HTiB.

One last change. Phase Tech models are now shipping from MSE HQ in Overland Park, KS.

Again, sorry for not getting back in for a while. I'm not as active around here as I used to be. Thanks to Solon-HD for the assist.

Hope everyone is well, and happy listening!

Best,
Jason
post #492 of 571
PT got some press on the PC1.5 and thought I'd share. Stereo Times has a review on the PC3.5 but the PDF is too large to attach. You can locate it in their archives here: http://www.stereotimes.com/

Have a great weekend everyone!

 

Reprint_PhaseTech1.5_Nagle[1].pdf 301.5283203125k . file
post #493 of 571
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Originally Posted by Solon-HD Install View Post

Here's the new MSRP Pricing effective Feb. 1, 2010:

Premiere Collection -
PC 0.5 = $543 ea
PC 1.5 = $630 ea
PC 3.5 = $1,150 ea
PC 33.5 = $685 ea
PC 9.5 = $1,775 ea
PC Surround = $788 ea

Phase Velocity Series -
V-4 = $375 ea
V-6 = $465 ea
V-8 = $520 ea
V-10 = $635 ea
V-12 = $910 ea
V Surround = $463 ea

I hope this info helps.
These are fantastic sounding speakers for movies and music.
If you are close to NE Ohio, I can certainly help you with the pricing.

Jack

Holy Crap. Those are huge price increases. $700 for a pair of V4's? Is that right? That is their budget line. How can they expect to compete with the other brands out there?
post #494 of 571
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Originally Posted by TDI Driver View Post

Hi Nick,

Sorry for not responding earlier, but thanks to Jack @ Solon-HD (no affiliation even though we're in the same state, in case anyone was wondering) the price increase has been posted.

In other developments, MSE Audio released a new Phase Tech full line brochure, and I was surprised to see the absence of two Velocity models, the V8 and V12. While the V8, in my opinion, was not the best speaker in this familiy, the V12 was a very good seller for us. Because of a misprint in the full line brochure, I e-mailed MSE to inform them and to inquire about the V8 and V12. They confirmed that both the V8 and V12 have been discontinued.

Other models not in the new catalog include the Arte on-wall and HV Series subwoofers. The HV800 was to get replaced anyway, but so far there has been no more information on its replacement or the CineMicro HTiB.

One last change. Phase Tech models are now shipping from MSE HQ in Overland Park, KS.

Again, sorry for not getting back in for a while. I'm not as active around here as I used to be. Thanks to Solon-HD for the assist.

Hope everyone is well, and happy listening!

Best,
Jason

I agree on the V8's I owned them briefly and didn't like them at all. I probably should have gave them a longer chance. In my opinion it is time to drop the whole Velocity series. They're six years in the running now.
post #495 of 571
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Originally Posted by Thomd73 View Post

Holy Crap. Those are huge price increases. $700 for a pair of V4's? Is that right? That is their budget line. How can they expect to compete with the other brands out there?

Your reaction is about the same mine was when this news came down. My rep and I had a very lengthy conversation on PT pricing themselves out of competition. According to the heads at MSE, they were losing a considerable amount of money with Velocity, even though prices have been incrementally increased since their release. Our point was that if you're losing that much on a line, discontinue it. For us as dealers, we've taken a good look at our numbers and have decided to cut retail pricing on PT speakers in the store in order to maintain their competitiveness and still make our necessary margins. Some models, though, we can't cut enough to get their pricing in line.

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. . . In my opinion it is time to drop the whole Velocity series. They're six years in the running now.

I may be letting something out of the bag I shouldn't, but according to my rep there is to be a new line, replacing Velocity, debuting at CEDIA this year.
post #496 of 571
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Originally Posted by TDI Driver View Post

Your reaction is about the same mine was when this news came down. My rep and I had a very lengthy conversation on PT pricing themselves out of competition. According to the heads at MSE, they were losing a considerable amount of money with Velocity, even though prices have been incrementally increased since their release. Our point was that if you're losing that much on a line, discontinue it. For us as dealers, we've taken a good look at our numbers and have decided to cut retail pricing on PT speakers in the store in order to maintain their competitiveness and still make our necessary margins. Some models, though, we can't cut enough to get their pricing in line.



I may be letting something out of the bag I shouldn't, but according to my rep there is to be a new line, replacing Velocity, debuting at CEDIA this year.

It sounds like the economies of scale, bad economy, and the fact that Phase Tech manufactures and assembles everything here in the US has finally caught up with them. It may be time to move some of the operations overseas to cut down on cost. Companies often need to increase prices when their volumes are in decline. The end result is that the dealers margins are getting squeezed as you try to keep the product attractive to your customer base. If they don't sell you have to do whats best for your business and drop them.

And yes, if the velocity line is no longer profitable they should have dropped it long ago.


Great, that's only five months away.
post #497 of 571
BTW MSE has a pretty informative Facebook page for product updates
post #498 of 571
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Originally Posted by Thomd73 View Post

It sounds like the economies of scale, bad economy, and the fact that Phase Tech manufactures and assembles everything here in the US has finally caught up with them. It may be time to move some of the operations overseas to cut down on cost. Companies often need to increase prices when their volumes are in decline. The end result is that the dealers margins are getting squeezed as you try to keep the product attractive to your customer base. If they don't sell you have to do whats best for your business and drop them.

And yes, if the velocity line is no longer profitable they should have dropped it long ago.


Great, that's only five months away.

I agree, sad as it may be, that they may have to take a good look at moving some production overseas. Actually, our last order of CI-6.0 in-ceiling speakers were made in China, so perhaps a shift has already been underway. We'll just have to wait and see to what extent the shift becomes. I'm holding off making any judgement about retaining the line until I see what comes out later this year. It would be a shame to let them go as I really like many of their models, they have been a great company to deal with, and their powered subs have been a model of reliability compared to some of our other lines. Ultimately, one has to separate the hobbiest/enthusiast for these products from the business if that becomes necessary. I've done it before, so I know I can do it again.

And, yes, it is 5 months of waiting, and like all other product announcements, how long after that until products actually start shipping!?!

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Originally Posted by Thomd73 View Post

BTW MSE has a pretty informative Facebook page for product updates

Thanks for the tip. Not on Facebook myself, but I'll have to check it out!
post #499 of 571
Just Curious, has anyone come across any closeout deals on the Velocity Series?
post #500 of 571
It would be sad to see that they would move production overseas to China but that is what a great deal of manufacturers have been doing for some time. I worked for a manufacturer years ago that was a high end line and they started moving everything overseas to cut costes. I have been a Phase Tech dealer for the past 4 years and their product is remarkable. I have converted a few B&W clients over to Phase Tech and they never looked backed. Currently have the CI730T's in my living room as a semi home theater and the sound from those is remarkable. Now of course they aren't just thrown in to the ceiling and have their own enclosure made between the ceiling joists and then sealed with silicone.

Rumor has it that there is a revamped line being shown at CEDIA and then a couple of new products. Cann't wait to see what they have coming out.

I am a dealer up in New Hamshire and if anyone in the New England area needs something just let me know.
post #501 of 571
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Originally Posted by todd1010 View Post

thanks for the update, I'd like to see/hear more about the HTIB as I have a friend that's looking for something along this line and he was thinking about getting a Bose satellite system. I told him to not waste his money.

Hey guys,
A great alternative for a HTiB is the Phase Tech Teatro PC-3.0 and surrounds with a budget receiver. I just reviewed these over at hometheaterhifi.com and loved them (still using them until they make me return them). With relatively few shortcomings and great performance on both movies and music, they're hard to beat in their price class (though as with any speakers you must use surrounds for true "surround sound"). Their matchng sub is also no slouch. OK, I'll see if the link will post, if not, its still on the main page.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/affor...gy-system.html
post #502 of 571
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Originally Posted by pottscb View Post

Hey guys,
A great alternative for a HTiB is the Phase Tech Teatro PC-3.0 and surrounds with a budget receiver. I just reviewed these over at hometheaterhifi.com and loved them (still using them until they make me return them). With relatively few shortcomings and great performance on both movies and music, they're hard to beat in their price class (though as with any speakers you must use surrounds for true "surround sound"). Their matchng sub is also no slouch. OK, I'll see if the link will post, if not, its still on the main page.

I just read that article last week and it had some good information and true information especially the thought in setup of the PC3.0's and assuring they are wall mounted. I am currently doing a system for a client with the PC3.0's and then the PC1.5's for surrounds along with a Power FL12 sub. The customer is using this in a multi-functional room so it is everyday music and tv watching along with being used as their exercise room or just sitting and reading the morning paper.

You definitely cann't go wrong with Phase Technology product.
post #503 of 571
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Originally Posted by Pat M View Post


You definitely cann't go wrong with Phase Technology product.

I have to agree with this for their speakers.

I'd shop elsewhere for a sub.

I had their Octive 1 sub that was ok at best. It was a 15" sealed sub that bottomed out frequently with movies. Ultimately, the amp fried and it went to sub heaven.

Replace it with an SVS and got the performance I had always hoped for with the Phase Technology.
post #504 of 571
Hey everybody,
Just wanted to jump on the P.T. wagon. Got a demo pair of PC-0.5's & V-Surrounds - I'm completely sold!!
I'm 90% sure i'll be getting a PT Soundbar for my small bedroom system, just checking out the prices on the 2 they offer vs a PC-33.5 (with the PC-0.5's) for the front.
I hope my Marantz NR1501 can handle 'em...
post #505 of 571
Munroe - Let me know if I can help you with pricing on any Phase Technology products.

Jack
post #506 of 571
I'm still LOVING the sound on my 2 channel Phase Technology PC 3.1 Series II.

I like them so much I'm considering getting the newer versions which are the PC 3.5's.

I recently blew a voice coil on one of mine and drove over to Phase Technology to pick it up. I was immediately drawn to the 9.5's sitting in the lobby and had to hear them.
post #507 of 571
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Originally Posted by todd1010 View Post

I'm still LOVING the sound on my 2 channel Phase Technology PC 3.1 Series II.

I like them so much I'm considering getting the newer versions which are the PC 3.5's.

I recently blew a voice coil on one of mine and drove over to Phase Technology to pick it up. I was immediately drawn to the 9.5's sitting in the lobby and had to hear them.

They allowed for an auditiom at the manufacturer? Pretty cool! What gear did they have them hooked up to?
post #508 of 571
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Originally Posted by Thomd73 View Post

They allowed for an auditiom at the manufacturer? Pretty cool! What gear did they have them hooked up to?


They didn't have them there for listening purposes but when I saw them I had to hear them at my local dealer.
post #509 of 571
I found this interesting article on the web. I've wanted the PC2's for a long time, but now I'm inclined to stay away. Being one of the world's biggest Phase Tech fans I was shocked by what I read. This probably explains why the PC1's I owned way back when were dull and lifeless as S@#$.

http://www.joebear.net/blog/blueprin...echnology-pc2/
post #510 of 571
I have a pair of PC-500's and a PC-3 (I think that is the correct model) as my front soundstage and they are still going strong. The only complaint I have is that when I turn the sub volume knob up or down there is a crackling sound coming from the sub. Any ideas as to what this could be?
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