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Originally Posted by TiVoFishMan

WGNO-DT and WNOL-DT have been on their new shared transmitter (physical channel 15) for about a week now, and yesterday they were dropped from WPXL's transmitter (physical channel 50).

The "downloaded mapping" that comes from DirecTV to map the OTA tuner on my HR20's switched to the new physical 15 for both channels within 48 hours of them going live. I also have reason to suspect that DirecTV re-tuned and re-aimed their local receiver, that receives WGNO-DT for retransmission via satellite, to the new transmitter within 48 hours or so of it going live.

Since the new channel 15 transmitter came on line, I have not noticed one single audio glitch on WGNO-DT. Not one!

A few months ago, I managed to get a message through to their engineering staff about this issue and was told that they had some issues with their STL that they were working out.

Thankfully, it would seem those "issues" did not carry over to their new transmitter.

Now, if they'd only go DD 5.1....

Originally Posted by John4924

Fishman...I also have an HR20...how can you tell that the OTA tuner on the HR20 switched to the new physical 15? Just curious?

Originally Posted by NOHDjunkie

The Birmingham locals look fine so far.

NBC Golf looks great (No discernible difference from WDSU OTA)

Nascar on FOX looks good (No discernible difference from WVUE OTA)

College Bball on CBS looks as good as WWL OTA

No thing to compare on ABC yet

Seem like a good move. Hopefully Dish will leave these locals alone on 119 spotbeam until NO locals get on the dish.

Originally Posted by fallout2600

Thanks for the update Jim, good to know we have backup with Dish as they are moving CONUS beams to spots.

Originally Posted by sore_bluto

It looks like WHNO has stopped multicasting WDSU on channel 20. 6-1 is no longer duplicated on the TV tuner and 6-1 is a black screen on the HR20. I'm sure 6-1 is still mapped to 20. I'll call in and let you know what they tell me.

EDIT: DIRECTV said a re-download of the local channel database (Re-run Initial Off Air Setup) is the only fix as the station and not DIRECTV supplies the physical channel number. I ran the setup and the problem was corrected. I am now getting a better signal on 6-1 (100%) than 20-1 (96%).

Originally Posted by John4924

I know this has been covered elsewhere, but I have a quick question for my neighbor that has Cox Cable [I have Directv]

They bought a new HDTV, and have the cable connected directly to the coax input on the TV [no cox box]. Haven't I read here that they should be able to get the locals [and maybe other channels] for free in HD on some other channel number? How is this done? Do you have to know what the channel numbers are, and direct tune to the station?

Thanks for the help, guys

Cheers,
John

Originally Posted by NOHDjunkie

Only if they have a QAM tuner built into the TV. Have them Read The Manual and see if their set has one.

If yes doing a channel scan should bring up the available locals and sometimes pay channels and other HD channels.

Metairie clear QAM channels from Franks post a couple pages back;

81-2 WDSU
81-3 PBS
82-1 WWL
83-3 WDSU Weather
126-2 CW
126-5 ABC
127-1 WUPL

Originally Posted by TiVoFishMan

For whatever reason, your HR20 may have needed to be forced to refresh its local channel mapping (not particularly surprising), but you were not given accurate information from the DirecTV CSR (also, not particularly surprising), as that info most definately comes from the DirecTV satellite stream, and is supposed to update in real-time. But, as you saw, doesn't always.

Both of my HR20s moved their mapping of 26-1 and 38-1 from physical frequency 50 to frequency 15 without me having to re-run anything or reboot. One of my HR20s moved 6-1 to physical 43 (from 21) within hours after channel 6 moved without me having to do anything. The other one failed to do so, and still failed to do so after a reboot, days later. I'll check and see if its moved today, and if not, I'll try re-running the set up on it.

Originally Posted by sore_bluto

The CSR (in the technical department) acknowledged that the data was coming from DIRECTV via sat, but insisted that they have no control over that data, that it was being passed through a service directly from the stations and that even though I knew that the problem was switching the physical channel from 21 to 43, that there was nothing they could do about it. She insisted that that data came , through them, from the station.

Originally Posted by John4924

............ I will get their manual to see if they have QAM tuner installed. I would think so since they just purchased? .............................

Originally Posted by TiVoFishMan

That I totally agree with.

The point I was making is that you don't always have to re-run OTA setup when the mapping changes.

Here's an update on my HR20's:

The one in the living room fully updated itself without me having to do anything. I've never re-run OTA setup. It hasn't rebooted or updated its firmware version in months. It's plugged into an UPS. It tunes to the correct frequency for all OTA channels.

The one in the bedroom was still trying to tune to 21.2 for 6-1. I re-ran OTA setup, and that fixed 6-1 but 38-1 disappeared! I re-ran OTA setup again. Still no 38-1 (38-1 is still fine in the living room.) I'll wait a day or two (perhaps there's currently a glitch in the data on the sats) and re-run again.

Originally Posted by Ben Hardy

Frank,
May I ask what (Make, Model) STB you're using to receive these QAM channels? My LG 3410A can't find any QAM signals on these frequencies.
Thanks,
Ben

Originally Posted by John4924

Thanks, Jim. I will get their manual to see if they have QAM tuner installed. I would think so since they just purchased? Will report back what I find out.

Thanks for the help.

Cheers,
John

Originally Posted by NOHDjunkie

New TV's don't necessarily have QAM tuners, They are only required to have ATSC tuners.

Originally Posted by jg!

My HR20 didn't have the updated info for WDSU, so I reran the OTA antenna setup. WDSU showed up, 38.1 is still there, and WGNO is now listed as 49.3 but is where it should be numerically between 20.1 and 38.1 in the guide (strange).

Originally Posted by hockey2112

126-2 CW
126-5 ABC
127-1 WUPL

I am having trouble tuning into anything higher than 122-1 with my MyHD card on my PC. Any tips on how to get it to find these higher channels? Digi?

Originally Posted by sjv

Not sure if this is in the right thread but here goes. As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong on this), D* transmits most of their HD signals over one satellite. I want to tweek my 5 lnb dish to that satellite as more HD stuff comes online. It seems like the HD product goes off well before the SD stuff in a moderate/heavy rain.

We're experiencing a continuous moderate rainfall in the Slidell area right now and I can get the Encore SD channels OK but the Starz HD channels are digitized out. Am I heading in the right direction with this? If D* in fact does transmit most HD signals over one satellite, which one is it?

Thanks

Originally Posted by sjv

Not sure if this is in the right thread but here goes. As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong on this), D* transmits most of their HD signals over one satellite. I want to tweek my 5 lnb dish to that satellite as more HD stuff comes online. It seems like the HD product goes off well before the SD stuff in a moderate/heavy rain.

We're experiencing a continuous moderate rainfall in the Slidell area right now and I can get the Encore SD channels OK but the Starz HD channels are digitized out. Am I heading in the right direction with this? If D* in fact does transmit most HD signals over one satellite, which one is it?

Thanks

Originally Posted by digiblur

D10 at the 102.8 position is where the new KA national HD comes from.

Spaceway 1 and Spaceway 2 are for HD LiL's.

Originally Posted by sore_bluto

The New Orleans locals have been moved to D10 and all but a handful of the HD CONUS channels are also coming from D10. You want all of your signal readings for 103(c) to read above 90 ideally. Even if you are peaked perfectly, the D10 Ka signal will drop before the Ku sats in heavy rain. I lost the locals for a couple of minutes between 5:30 and 6:00 this afternoon. Once your dish is peaked, there isn't much else to do.

Here are the signals I'm getting right now on D10/S1:

103 (c)
91 92 93 95 92 95 94 95
95 95 96 96 96 96 na na
99 na na na na 99 na na
na na na na na na na na

103 (s)
00 00 00 00 00 00 na na
na na na na na na 00 00
98 00 00 00 96 00 00 00
na na na na na na na na

Originally Posted by TiVoFishMan

sjv,

If your signals look like sore-bluto's above, your dish is probably fine.

If those two non-zero readings on 103(s) or any of the readings on 103(c) are below 90, it's probably well worth peaking your dish.

It's just a sad fact that Ka (the band DirecTV transmits most of their HD channels on) is more susceptible to rain fade than Ku (DirecTV's older sats).