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post #8191 of 8206
Im using the great LEAF indoor antenna. It brings in at least 20 channels and subchannels ... EXCEPT WYES-channel 12, the main PBS station for metro New Orleans. I have no idea why it does not come in at all.
post #8192 of 8206
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Originally Posted by pmbtv View Post

Im using the great LEAF indoor antenna. It brings in at least 20 channels and subchannels ... EXCEPT WYES-channel 12, the main PBS station for metro New Orleans. I have no idea why it does not come in at all.

12.1 is the only VHF channel. You're antenna is prob a UHF only.

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post #8193 of 8206
The Leaf is not a VHF antenna. Its elements are way too small to receive VHF except at very close range. Solid Signal published tests of it as a comparison with their Blade (Winegard Flatwave). Gain on the high VHF channels averaged around -18 dBi (-20 dBd). http://forums.solidsignal.com/docs/HD-BLADE%20vs%20Leaf%20LR.pdf
post #8194 of 8206
WWL massacred the ending of Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer. Near the end, they dropped a local commercial in over the network feed then the screen went to black for a minute or so, repeated the local commercial and eventually picked up the network feed for the next show at the top of the hour. I was doing a capture and in the early parts of the show -- before and after the network commercials -- there was a nice 1-2 seconds of black which I figured would be great for snipping. Then WWL dropped in a weather coverage promo for the news which had no cushion in the last 15 minutes before totally screwing the cap with the missing end. I will try again next year.
post #8195 of 8206
I know this board has been quiet. But this week KFOL aka HTV in Houma quietly launched an HD feed. It is on 30.3. On 30.1 there is a simulcast of a down converted 30.3 in squeeze mode.

They also moved into their new studios in the old Duponts department store. Studio is also HD. Looks really good compared to the upconverts.
post #8196 of 8206

For those who haven't discovered RabbitEars.info, there's a wealth of info there and not limited to just the New Orleans market, either. One handy list I find that I keep referring to is this one, showing station call signs and channel assignments--both RF and Virtual--plus network affiliations, etc.

post #8197 of 8206
Glad you like it. smile.gif

- Trip
post #8198 of 8206

Hi guys,To receive the most OTA channels, do I need two antennas, one for HD and one for SD? What antenna is best for Marrero to receive as many channels as possible (BR - Biloxi, etc)? 

 

I've been looking at this site 

http://www.dennysantennaservice.com/new-orleans-tv-stations.html

 

They have three antennas available, HD Stacker, EZ HD, and the Wineguard Flatwave found here http://dennysantennaservice.com/winegard-fl6550a-flatwave-hdtv-antenna.html

 

Anyone ever use this site and/or its antennas?

 

 

I can mount outside and have a pretty clear line of sight from my roof North NorthEast to NO.

I also posted this as a new thread under Local HDTV Info and Reception... I think

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

Frank

post #8199 of 8206

Haven't seen that site before your post, but the advice about an attic installation attenuates reception is true.

 

No need for separate HD and SD antennas (if there is such a thing). It's more a matter of directionality to the transmitters from your location and whether you want to leave an antenna fixed but pointed optimally for the stations you'll watch most, or use a rotator to swing the azimuth. All antennas differ in their reception patterns, but you might find a directional antenna with a wide enough "front lobe" that you won't need to rotate the azimuth, and might also discover the "back lobe" works sufficiently for some stations in the opposite direction.

 

An "HD" antenna is more likely one that's optimized for UHF frequencies and leaves off the old VHF elements. Older pre-digital-transition antennas still receive today's signals, but have elements no longer needed unless you want to split off a feed to your A/V system for FM radio.

 

Stations in the "High" VHF range (like WYES on RF11) can still be picked up by an HD antenna. Since FM radio is still in the same spectrum space between Low VHF and High VHF, you might want a separate FM antenna. Keep in mind that multiple antennas can actually interfere with each other if not installed according to relevant guidelines.

 

The most detailed transmitter location, signal strength, and azimuth-from-your-address info I'd recommend you check is found at TVFool.com, but also take a look at antennaweb.org for some ideas about antenna types and "range" categories.

 

Comparisons of commercially available antennas are available at HDTVPrimer.com.

 

And finally, for the sake of safety for your home as well as your gear, be sure you properly ground your installation(s). Go here and scroll down.

post #8200 of 8206

Newbie to OTA radio waves here 

 

A couple of years ago I installed a FM Terk 50 antenna in my attic. Today I hooked it up to my TV just to see what would happen. I am getting about 25-30 channels (4.1, 4.2, etc.). I seem to be having a problem receiving 32.1-32.4 (WLAE) and 12.1-12.2 (WYES) at the same time. Neither work with the amp on. With the amp off 32 works on the "first" TV but not the "second". 12 is not working on either or so its seems as I've been piddling with this for only a few hours now.

 

Setup is as follows: 

My FM Terk 50 antenna is in the attic parallel to the ground facing North. 5 feet of coax is between the antenna and the splitter. 12 ft of coax is between the splitter and my first TV (basically up the wall into the attic). I attached an existing coaxial that is running to the north end of my home to a second TV. I noticed that this coax has 3 female to female connectors along the 50 ft length from the splitter (4 shorter coax's connected). 

 

The splitter is a MSPLIT8R0-01 2-2150 MHz and was already in the attic so I gave it a try. Of the 8 outputs, I am using 3 (2 TVs mentioned above, 1 FM Radio, 4 have 75ohm caps, and 1 is connected to a coax that is not hooked to anything (I didn't see any other caps lying around...).

 

The amp was also already in the attic. It is a "SWM" Model PI 21 R1-03. Freq Range 2-2150 MHz. Insertion Loss 1.5 dB typ. Output 21v --- 1.2A max/25.2W max.

 

My FM radio reception seems like it should be way better, its choppy almost unbearably. I am happy with the DTV reception although 12.1 and 32.1 are definitely channels that I want! Both of these signals are close and considered "Strong".

What could be causing this? Not enough shielding? Too much gain? Wrong Antenna? Should I put the antenna outside? The attic does not have any foil other than a few air ducts but nothing higher than the antenna or on the roof itself.

 

 

My TV Fool interactive map is located here http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=90

 

and Signal Analysis is here http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d5b94d28894cba7

(don't know how to read this one)

post #8201 of 8206

Antennas only work optimally with their designed RF channel frequencies, not the "virtual" channels (like 12.x and 32.x) that correspond to their old analog channel assignments pre-transition. An "FM" antenna is going to work well for signals in the FM band, with anything adjacent (like the former Low VHF ch's 2-6 or High VHF ch's 7-13) tapering off rapidly the farther away you get from the FM portion of the spectrum. Here's a good TV and FM Broadcast Frequency list.

 

WYES (on RF ch 11--High VHF) and WLAE (on RF ch 31--UHF) are too far away from the FM band for your Terk 50 to be efficient, even if pointed optimally. That antenna is bidirectional, so it's "sweet spots" are lobe shapes toward the front and back.

 

Your 1st link leads to a normal page, nothing specific to your address, but probably good that you haven't posted anything so specific online. The 2nd link provides a great deal of info to sift through--too much to generalize about, other than recommending your keep looking it over and searching for info on terms you want to learn more about.

post #8202 of 8206
You need to get rid of that Directv power supply and splitter and replace it with the proper OTA gear.
post #8203 of 8206

Bargain Hunter - Thanks

 

ProjectSHO89 - ok, can you elaborate please? I'm new to most of this

post #8204 of 8206
Start simply and go from there. A basic UHF antenna with no power should get all of the NOLA channels except WYES from your location. You'll need an antenna with VHF-HI capability for WYES as it is on channel 11. Boosting the signal might cause more problems than it solves.
post #8205 of 8206
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Originally Posted by fwoolley View Post

Hi guys,To receive the most OTA channels, do I need two antennas, one for HD and one for SD? What antenna is best for Marrero to receive as many channels as possible (BR - Biloxi, etc)? 

I've been looking at this site 
http://www.dennysantennaservice.com/new-orleans-tv-stations.html

They have three antennas available, HD Stacker, EZ HD, and the Wineguard Flatwave found here http://dennysantennaservice.com/winegard-fl6550a-flatwave-hdtv-antenna.html

Anyone ever use this site and/or its antenna



I live in Lockport,LA. and I have Denny's HD Stacker antenna. I've had this antenna for 4yrs. now and it works great.I have my antenna outside about 35 feet high. I can catch all the N.O. & Baton Rouge stations. Here is a link to my TV Fool report:http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d9900d006f15e2a
I live about 35 to 40 miles from the N.O. stations and about 60 to 65 miles from the Baton Rouge stations.
Most nights I can pull in WLOX, WMAU ,WXXV -- Biloxi stations are about 115 miles from my location.
post #8206 of 8206
no such thing as HD antennas. that's a sales gimmick. there are indoor antennas good, so-so and bad and outdoor antennas good, so-so and bad. most hidef channels are in the UHF band. a few are still in the old VHF frequency range. when u buy, make sure it will pick up any HD channels still in VHF. in my case, that's the main PBS channel for metro New Orleans. Other than that, my UHF indoor tack on the wall flat LEAF antenna pulls in all the main channels and their sub-channels. your outdoor up in the sky antenna should be all u need.
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