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post #301 of 14496
Thread Starter 
Neo,

To tell if you have a 6200 (newer) versus a 5100 (older), you can look for the model number on the bottom of the box.

If it really does have firewire ports (there should be two), then it is a 6200. The 5100's don't have firewire ports.

Also, you can check your firmware by going to the program guide menu, click on Setup, then on Cable Box, then go down to See Configuration (right arrow) ... software is in the left column, firmware in the right column.

If your firmware is 7.xx (7.07 or 7.10), you likely have a 6200 (although it could still be a 5100 with a more recent firmware).

Your analog local channels should be between 2 and 28 (or thereabouts) ... I am curious to see if you have both Bay Area and Sacramento locals, because then you might be able to get both the Bay Area local HD and the Sacramento local HD signals. Which would be nice because the Bay Area has CBS HD (Sacramento doesn't) but Sacramento will likely have Fox Widescreen soon (Comcast has a contract with the Sacramento Fox station's owner), so you could have the best of both worlds.
post #302 of 14496
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Originally posted by bpearse
Yup, same Erika! She received messages from me directly and indirectly through the executive office. I think she is just out today, according to the person who called me. But I am just happy to have some sort of action being taken now. It has taken over 2 months to get anybody even working on it.

Did they say how long she will be out? I'd rather not wait 2 weeks for a response.
post #303 of 14496
Ok, I will definitely check to see which STB I have. Also I will verify whether or not I recieve both local channels for Bay Area and Sac, but I do notice that I receive KRON4 and CH.10 news which I believe is Sac, but I also get KTVU2 which shows bay area news. That was the reason that I believed that I get both local for Sac and SF. You can correct me on this if I am wrong. So what do you think my best option is in regards to the local channels on HD and also the channels 199 and 200 in HD? Should I wait to see if those channels come in or should I call Comcast. It was hideous to have to watch the Final four on SD when I knew others were watching it in HD.
post #304 of 14496
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Originally posted by davisdog
Neo,

FoxHD is not available yet in the Bay Area, and DiscoveryHD isnt available on Comcast at all (Rule #1...CSRs are often clueless...but that one is scary)

What do you see on the screen when you tune your HD Box to

Channels 184, 186, 187, 188 (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS HD channels)????

Those should all be working for you.

-Steve

Hi Steve, when I input those channels it just skips and goes to the next channel. I noticed when I press guide the channels go from 183 and then the next channel is 193 which is the ESPNHD. Is there something wrong with my services? Thanks.
post #305 of 14496
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by Neo57
So what do you think my best option is in regards to the local channels on HD and also the channels 199 and 200 in HD? Should I wait to see if those channels come in or should I call Comcast. It was hideous to have to watch the Final four on SD when I knew others were watching it in HD.

You won't get any good information from a CSR. How long have you had your HD STB? If longer than a couple of days, I would (1) complain that you aren't receiving the channels you are supposed to receive, and see if they will send a technician out to check your box and connections-- this won't get you the channels, but it might get you a tech who can tell you why you aren't getting them and when they might be added; and, (2) send an email to the "escalation specialists" whose email addresses are above-- they will research the issue and get back to you.

By the way, what is your zip code? Let us know and include it in your email to the escalation specialists, if you choose to do that.
post #306 of 14496
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Originally posted by SonomaSearcher
You won't get any good information from a CSR. How long have you had your HD STB? If longer than a couple of days, I would (1) complain that you aren't receiving the channels you are supposed to receive, and see if they will send a technician out to check your box and connections-- this won't get you the channels, but it might get you a tech who can tell you why you aren't getting them and when they might be added; and, (2) send an email to the "escalation specialists" whose email addresses are above-- they will research the issue and get back to you.

By the way, what is your zip code? Let us know and include it in your email to the escalation specialists, if you choose to do that.

Thanks Sonoma. I've had the STB only since Saturday, thats why i was wondering if the CSR told me the truth that some of those channels will begin to appear after a day or two. As far as Ch.199 and 200 does it matter whether I am in the Bay Area or Sac region, or should I be getting those two channels regardless. My zip code is 94585.

Also is there a way to connect my VCR so that I can record tv programs?
post #307 of 14496
Thread Starter 
Neo,

Looking at your channel lineup on Comcast's website (using your zip code), you do get both the Sacramento and Bay Area local stations (in analog basic).

And the lineup also shows a gap from 183 to 193-- no locals in HD.

So the CSR was feeding you a line of bull about the channels showing up. Instead, it appears that Comcast does not offer any HD locals in your area.

However, I say "appears" because the website channel lineups are not always accurate.

I would send an email to the escalation specialists a.s.a.p. and ask why you can't get any local stations in HD, even though you can get ESPN, HBO, etc., in HD.

If the escalation specialists can't help you, you can also complain to your local franchising authority (city or county). There should be an ombudsman of some kind who can contact Comcast and figure out why you aren't getting HD locals there.

Maybe it's the fact that you are between two markets (Sacto and Bay Area) and Comcast is still figuring out which HD channels you should be getting. But if you get the analog locals from both markets, IMHO, you should get the HD locals from both markets!

Anyway, good luck in finding out why Comcast does not currently offer HD locals in your area. And let us know what answers they give you.
post #308 of 14496
Thanks Sonoma. I will definitely escalate the situation. Im basically paying the same price as everyone else, but not receving the same amount of channels. Not very good on Comcasts side. Thanks for all the info, and I will definitely update as soon as I hear something.

Hey Sonoma, I looked above but I don't see the email address for the escalation problems. Could you please provide me with that email address. Thanks.
post #309 of 14496
Thread Starter 
Neo,

On 199 (Cinemax HD) and 200 (Starz HD), the website channel lineup shows them in your area. What happens when you tune to these channels?

If it's "Not Authorized", you will need to change your subscription to add Cinemax and/or Starz (either a la carte or through a package: Digital Gold or Digital Platinum, probably).

You can also do this to check: Tune to 199 or 200, then turn off the cable box and quickly (within one or two seconds) hit OK/Enter. This will give you a diagnostic menu. Go to Current Channel and look at the data. It will say "Enc" for Encrypted (scrambled) or "Clr" for Clear (unscrambled).

There has been a special lately, $30 per month for Digital Platinum for three months. It gets you all the channels Comcast carries (except for specialty channels such a foreign language premiums and out of market sports packages). After three months, it will go up to $90+ per month, but you could downgrade to whatever you want at that time (a one-time $2 "downgrade" charge applies).
post #310 of 14496
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by Neo57
Hey Sonoma, I looked above but I don't see the email address for the escalation problems. Could you please provide me with that email address. Thanks.

bpearse must have deleted or edited his post.

I think one email address was @cable.comcast.com

Hmm, may have the last name wrong; you may have to ask bpearse for the email addresses.

Also try: @cable.comcast.com

EDIT: PM me if you need the address, and let me know why you need it. (Although if you do a search for "Erika", you will find it posted in another thread about five or six months ago.)

One of those two is correct, I believe.

Let us know what you find out.
post #311 of 14496
Sonoma,
When I tune to those channels, I do get the "Not Authorized" So I will try turing off the box like you said. Im not as worried about 199 and 200 than I am about the local HD. It really sucks not having those channels. 90+ a month is pretty steep so I don't think I would upgrade to that, thanks for the suggestion though. So Im guessing those local channels wont turn on after a while like the CSR said. Do you have that email address for me to send to the escalation specialists. I wanna get this sorted out asap. Thanks again Sonoma.
post #312 of 14496
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Originally posted by Neo57
Sonoma,
When I tune to those channels, I do get the "Not Authorized" So I will try turing off the box like you said. Im not as worried about 199 and 200 than I am about the local HD. It really sucks not having those channels. 90+ a month is pretty steep so I don't think I would upgrade to that, thanks for the suggestion though. So Im guessing those local channels wont turn on after a while like the CSR said. Do you have that email address for me to send to the escalation specialists. I wanna get this sorted out asap. Thanks again Sonoma.

Neo,

The suggestion from Sonoma was to can and upgrade to Digital Platinum special now, so your bill will be $30/mth + $5 for HD Box for the next 3 months (saving you money and giving you more channels). At the end of 3 months, call and switch back to the package you want (assuming you dont want to pay the full $90 for Digital Platinum.

199/200 are not authorized because you dont subscribe to Cinemax/starz, but you will get them for 3 months if you upgrade.

If the HD local channels arent tuning, then I doubt waiting a couple days will do anything...sounds like they dont exist in your area (for whatever reason)...may be confusion between the two markets you are in (Sacto and Bay Area). Good luck

-Steve
post #313 of 14496
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Originally posted by davisdog
Neo,

The suggestion from Sonoma was to can and upgrade to Digital Platinum special now, so your bill will be $30/mth + $5 for HD Box for the next 3 months (saving you money and giving you more channels). At the end of 3 months, call and switch back to the package you want (assuming you dont want to pay the full $90 for Digital Platinum.

199/200 are not authorized because you dont subscribe to Cinemax/starz, but you will get them for 3 months if you upgrade.

If the HD local channels arent tuning, then I doubt waiting a couple days will do anything...sounds like they dont exist in your area (for whatever reason)...may be confusion between the two markets you are in (Sacto and Bay Area). Good luck

-Steve

Steve,
I understood the suggestion, from Sonoma, maybe I should have completed what I was trying to say. What I meant was that it was a good idea but I didnt want to switch because I really cant afford the 90+ and I would hate to switch back to something lower if I really liked the platinum. I guess you could say that I wouldn't want to be teased with all the channels for three months, knowing that I would have to switch back to a lower package. Yeah, Im starting to believe that being in between Sacto and and Sf is playing a part in this so I will contact Comcast to verify. Wish me luck and thanks for all the great info.
post #314 of 14496
Also, I don't know if anyone can answer this, and this actually might belong in a different forum but...does anyone own a Sony tv? I currently have the 50we610 GWIII. I tried to add the Motorola STB to the remote but noticed there was no code for it on the Sony manual. Does anyone know of a code, or would comcast have a code? I'd hate to have to call Sony. Its such a pain with all the automated stuff. Thanks.
post #315 of 14496
After seeing the posts about the Suisin CA availability, I spent a little more time poking around the Comcast website.

I found that my zip (94041) lists Cinemax and Starz! Plus, Sunnyvale 94086 does not list them.

So, at least some hope that they have the channels - now all I need is the 6200!

I would settle for the DVR too...

Anyways, looking forward to hearing more about 6200's being delivered...

Cheers!
DAve.
post #316 of 14496
Folks, please don't start spamming Erika for help. That's not how it works. I told her that her address wouldn't get plastered all over the board. I'm sure if she gets a bunch of cranky messages from folks she'll be less willing to help - and she's the first person I've talked to at Comcast who has been willing to help.

So if folks could *not* post that email address I'd appreciate it...
post #317 of 14496
Newbie Question: I read somewhere that if you subcribe to basic cable you can get the HD feeds fro the local chanel - can anyone verify this? My plan is to have a set with built in tuner. Also plan to use Directv for premium HD chanels but would love to get locals at low cost. Don't believe OTA is possibility (Moraga). Any input appreciated.

Glenn
post #318 of 14496
Sonoma,

I pulled the posting I had made the other day (reply from my letter to the Comcast CEO) because I did not realize it contained Erika's email. She only takes cases that are forwarded to her from the executive team, so emailing her may not get you anywhere. I will post any followup I get from her here. If no follow up by Friday, then I will post her contact info so others can let her know how big of a problem this is.
post #319 of 14496
Thread Starter 
Step 2 of my strategy was successful. Here's how it happened.

Went into the local Comcast office today, carting my 5100 in tow. I was greeted by a woman I will describe charitably as "the gatekeeper." She was the only one working the front desk.

Actually, "greeted" is not the write word. "Glared at" might be more accurate.

She recognized that I was carrying an HDTV box immediately, so perhaps that had something to do with her stern gaze.

I greeted her nicely and informed her of my purpose-- to exchange this HDTV box for one that has "firewire" or "IEEE 1394." After telling me that she knew it was an HDTV box, she informed me that Comcast does not have firewire.

Not taking no for an answer, I politely explained to her that the boxes with firewire were the model 6200 or 6208. She went into a rendition of how not all areas have been upgraded to digital cable or HSI yet, blah, blah, blah.

So I ask her when will they be getting the HD STB's with firewire, and can I be contacted when that happens. She says they might not ever get any boxes with firewire.

Naturally, at that point the FCC regulation became highly relevant, so I mentioned it and the fact that cable companies are required, effective April 1, to provide boxes with an active firewire connection to HDTV customers upon request. And that is why I would like to have an estimate as to when they will have the firewire-equipped boxes. I am patient, but I won't take "maybe never" for an answer.

I also mention that said boxes have been made available to customers in Sacramento and the South Bay. More excuses from her about why they don't have firewire boxes here ... always behind the other areas, blah, blah, blah.

I ask to speak to a supervisor. She says no supervisor available. I ask for a card of supervisor. She says no card. I ask for a phone number of supervisor. She goes to a note pad to write down a number, but keeps telling me why I am out of luck.

At some point, she says they aren't even going to get the DVR until September, as if that might ease my concern.

So I ask her before she's given me the supervisor's number, "Are you sure you don't have them? A technician told me that you just received a shipment of them into this office."

Well, that did the trick. She gave me a blank look and reluctantly said "Let me go ask." She walks back to the door of one of the offices (that is about 25 feet from the front desk) and goes inside. There is a conversation. (Perhaps with the supervisor who "isn't there"?)

After about five minutes, she is back out. By this time, there are four people in line behind me, which for this office is like 20 people in line at the grocery store waiting for checkout.

She takes my box, still sitting on the counter, rather roughly and turns it around and at a 45 degree angle to look at the back, telling me that my box already has the firewire port. I inform her that it has a DVI port, but not a firewire port. More searching of the back panel by her.

Then she asks me what I want firewire for. "To hook it up to a recorder." She asks me, "A high definition recorder?" "Yes."

Back to the office. Another minute or so and she is back with a set of keys. She approaches a locked cabinent which is in plain view behind the front desk. Unlocks it....

Oila! A cabinet full of shiny Motorolas. But are they just more 5100's? She pulls out a box (again, rather roughly) and walks it over to the counter. Looks at the back panel. She sees something.

Without saying another word to me, she types in my 5100's serial number and brings up our account. Verfies identity and types up the work order. Has me sign it. The exchange is done.

I take a close look at the back panel myself. It has the IEEE 1394 ports. Sticker on the bottom shows it is a "6200/2005".

She expects me to leave at that point but one more question, "So do I have to call the head end to get the box activated?" No, I don't but she goes over to another area to get an instruction sheet on how to get the box activated.

The finish on the box is a little scratched up in places, making me think it was a return, but it still has the plastic covering on the front LED, so it must be new.

Once it is activated, I will post the firmware.

FWIW: No remote, no cables, no instruction booklet, nothing else but the box itself. I should have brought my remote for exchange -- we have had the same TCI/ATT/Comcast remote since 4/99!

I am surprised I was successful at Step 2. Before I walked into the office, I thought for sure the best I would do is get the brushoff with a supervisor's card or get put on a waiting list.

In fact, if she had been nice and told me "We should have thoses boxes by May 15th" or, "Here's the local manager's phone number" I would have been out of there with my 5100. But her statement that they may "never" get firewire boxes and her persnickety attitude kept me there.

The lesson is polite persistence pays off (sometimes).

My recommendation to those who want to exchange their 5100 for a 6200, or a non-working 6200 for a working 6200, is to go to your local Comcast office with your current box and don't take no for an answer.
post #320 of 14496
That's great stuff, Sonoma! Thanks for sharing. By the way, is there a link to the FCC's web site or something where we can bring in visual proof of the FCC's orders?
post #321 of 14496
Thread Starter 
Yes, I would recommend that your bring in a copy of the FCC regulation. I didn't show the gatekeeper my copy, but you might be asked for it.

Here is a link to the PDF file. The specific provision is on page 50.

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-03-225A1.pdf

The regulation is cited as : 47 CFR part 76 section 76.640 (b) (4) (i)

Good luck!
post #322 of 14496
Fantastic! I've been to my local office before and the ladies who work there seem about as nice as your friendly neighborhood Comcast rep. Although I must admit, I'm kind of looking forward to it. Sick, I know.
post #323 of 14496
The bottom line that I have learned about Comcast is BE PERSISTENT. They must be trained to brush people aside, so if you take no for an answer, you will get nowhere. I am still fighting the firewire issue here in Saratoga (got my box, but firewire not working). I have been told by 22 people (logged each and every call and name of the CRSs I talked to) that firewire is either non-existent or will not be enabled. You have to be steadfast and unrelenting.

Nicely done, Sonoma. Text book example of how to get things done with Comcast!
post #324 of 14496
Was at a buddy's house for BBall in HD last night. He has 199 (Cinemax HD) and 200 (Starz HD) working fine. He didn't even know it.

Also, while checking here at home (Cupertino) for 199 and 200 again (no joy), I pass by INHD1&2 and they're both WORKING. I never subscribed or anything. They've both been there but 'not authorized' for months. Strange. . .

Bon Chance!
post #325 of 14496
Anyone know how to activate the Front A/V inputs on the Motorola DCT-5100?
post #326 of 14496
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I pass by INHD1&2 and they're both WORKING. I never subscribed or anything. They've both been there but 'not authorized' for months. Strange. . .

You should definitely have access to INHD1 & 2 as long as you can tune them in. If you're still showing 'not authorized', then be sure to give them a call. I had the same problem, but caught it before my installers left and had them make the call. Additionally I discovered (after they left) that my Moto 5100 was set to output component at 480i and the TV Type was set to 4:3 so it pays to check your menu.

-Sean
post #327 of 14496
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Originally posted by smnorton
You should definitely have access to INHD1 & 2 as long as you can tune them in. If you're still showing 'not authorized', then be sure to give them a call. I had the same problem, but caught it before my installers left and had them make the call. Additionally I discovered (after they left) that my Moto 5100 was set to output component at 480i and the TV Type was set to 4:3 so it pays to check your menu.

-Sean

wrong...InHD1/2 require that you subscribe to Digital Classic (assuming they have their infrastructure configured correctly...if there screwed up then you may get them as feebies (and just lie low until they figure it out)). It has nothing to do with the $5 fee for the HD box
post #328 of 14496
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wrong...InHD1/2 require that you subscribe to Digital Classic (assuming they have their infrastructure configured correctly...if there screwed up then you may get them as feebies (and just lie low until they figure it out)). It has nothing to do with the $5 fee for the HD box

Thanks for the clarification. In my case I had digital classic and they still weren't active.

-Sean
post #329 of 14496
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Originally posted by SonomaSearcher
I still have the 5.03 firmware. Is this the case for most people? Or is 7.07 the most prevalent firmware out there in the Bay Area?

Related to firmware/software, does anyone have VOD yet? I know it launched in the Concord area, but I don't think we have anyone who posts here who is from Concord. Any other areas?

I still have 2.53 in San Francisco....
post #330 of 14496
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Originally posted by Big D TV
Using the two methods to retrieve the firmware numbers, my 5100 is still at the same version as when I got the unit nearly a year ago, 2.48 in the diagnotics mode, 50.00-1078 and 08 in the menu settings. I am located in Pleasant Hill, not sure if that is the latest for my area or my unit just has not taken a download of an available update. Anyone know what is the latest in my area? Seems 2.48 is mighty old.

That's the exact same version I have since I got HD on the 5100 back on December 9, 2003...
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