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post #61 of 212
Well, mine is on the way today, I hope to get it tonight if I can get out early enough to make it Fedex. Sometimes they leave it at the door, but I forgot to leave a note this morning :(

Can't wait to see if it works on cablevision, they just added a few new channels :)
post #62 of 212
Also, QAM is usually only encrypted on premium channels, not on local ones. But that may be dependent on your cabel company.
post #63 of 212
Hey guys, did you hook it up to the Cable or the Ant input to try and test digital cable?

Thanks,
MP
post #64 of 212
wow, strange to see a review from our site linked over here.. that hasn't happened in a while.

If anyone has any direct questions for Joshua (nintari) feel free to post about them.. i'm sure he'll read here too..

Sure looks like a great new product and we're really excited about having it for review. Been one of our most heavily viewed reviews to date.
post #65 of 212
Well after two years of lurking and putting off buying anything HDTV related, I have ordered a Fusion III with remote! Thanks Rack for replying about the USB remote. I made sure to ask the guy at CB and he assured me he's shipping USB remotes. It should arrive tommorrow. I'll be testing the card out with cable as well as OTA and let you guys know what happens.
post #66 of 212
My Fusion HDTV3 card came this morning and I anxiously installed per the instructions. I downloaded the latest app. from their website at xxx as it seemed slightly newer.

During the app. install you will still need the CD as it ask for the serial # on the front of CD sleeve and also for the drivers.

App. install went without a hitch and then dropped the card in the system. Found new hardware and ran through wizard several times. A quick channel search and presto analog tv.

A little searching found you have to click the digital button on the remote to switch over to the digital channels.

Tuner sensitivity does seem slightly better than the Samsung 351 standalone box I was testing.

My config. Dell PowerEdge 500SC 1.1 ghz celeron, 7200 rpm ATA 100 hard driver. Audigy 2 Sound Card, Nvidia FX5200 PCI video and Infinity surround speakers.

Glad to have HD back as I took the Samsung standalone back a month ago. My take as good or better than the Samsung and a lot more features including integrated titan TV and MPEG2 recording. It does have a scheduling agent so it appears you do not need a third party PVR for basic scheduling and recording.

I did have a couple small glitches with the software, but likely because I was changing a lot of the settings to learn what they do.

I swapped an old Hauppage Win TV Go card so very happy with the results.

Don't have any info on QAM support as I only wanted it for HDTV over the air. I'll be happy to answer any other questions.
post #67 of 212
foti> So no HDTV until 2005, but we should be able to view digital cable (480p) today? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Fortunately incorrect. Last nights presentation of Fast&Furious on Bay Area Comcast ABC was broadcast in beautiful 720p and 5.1DD Audio on unencrypted QAM (D117)! Now I can't say that the movie impressed me, but the picture and sound were breathtaking...

madpoet> Hey guys, did you hook it up to the Cable or the Ant input to try and test digital cable?

I'm new to FusionHDTV S/W, but I believe the pulldown in the Channel Scan screen saying "Antenna" and "Cable" merely selects which of these two to tune/scan. I don't think there is really any difference between the two. Me, I connected my Comcast Cable directly to the "Cable" input and selected that "connector" in the Channel Scan screen.

russegb> It would be interesting to hear from someone trying out a Comcast or Cox feed with the Fusion3.

I'm on Bay Area Comcast. I can attest that even w/out paying for Digital Cable let alone the extra surcharge for Digital Cable HDTV that 3 stations arrive unencrypted via QAM256: D79 (CBS @ 1080i), D116 (NBC @ 1080i), and D117 (ABC @ 720p and, as mentioned above, 5.1). Shrek this weekend (either CBS or NBC @ 1080i) was just in Stereo.

I cannot say, however, that my method of receiving these is the FusionHDTV 3 Gold being discussed here. :-) But my experience is extremely encouraging...
post #68 of 212
Installed this card yesterday. Very impressed with this card's reception. In downtown Atlanta, I'm receiving 3 strong digital channels (around 90%) just using regular di-pole (rabbit ears) OTA. 1080i is phenomenal on my NEC LT240K projector (1024x768 native) in the 4:3 pan & scan. Got the SPDIF optical going from the soundcard to my receiver for the AC-3 audio. The sound quality is another great improvement with HDTV.

My cable company is providing all 11 local HDTV channels here over their basic analog package - so I'll be moving to that.

System CPU load, with the 4:3 pan & scan scaling mode, averaged 25% on my Athlon64 3000+ with DxVA from Radeon 9600SE.
post #69 of 212
Quote:
Originally posted by edmc

russegb> It would be interesting to hear from someone trying out a Comcast or Cox feed with the Fusion3.

I'm on Bay Area Comcast. I can attest that even w/out paying for Digital Cable let alone the extra surcharge for Digital Cable HDTV that 3 stations arrive unencrypted via QAM256: D79 (CBS @ 1080i), D116 (NBC @ 1080i), and D117 (ABC @ 720p and, as mentioned above, 5.1). Shrek this weekend (either CBS or NBC @ 1080i) was just in Stereo.

I cannot say, however, that my method of receiving these is the FusionHDTV 3 Gold being discussed here. :-) But my experience is extremely encouraging...
So ESPN is encrypted?
post #70 of 212
Quote:
I cannot say, however, that my method of receiving these is the FusionHDTV 3 Gold being discussed here. :-) But my experience is extremely encouraging...
edmc-

Care to share how you are getting those? I assume it's on a STB as no PCI card has been able to tune in Comcast channels...


Thanks,
Chris
post #71 of 212
Where are you guys ordering the from? copperbox?
post #72 of 212
Quote:
Originally posted by jamesavery22
Where are you guys ordering the from? copperbox?
Yup
post #73 of 212
Schlotkins> Care to share how you are getting those? I assume it's on a STB as no PCI card has been able to tune in Comcast channels...

It's an engineering sample from DViCo. I'd prefer to let released products speak for what DViCo can support. I merely report that things are at least possible.

Karl Beem> So ESPN is encrypted?

I have no idea. My scan only locates 5 Digital Stations, the other two being D105 and D115. Alas, those two seem to lock up the current S/W. Could be that they are encrypted.

Do you know what station numbers Bay Area Comcast does broadcast? Their WebSite seems inconsistent with what I receive. Their WebSite claims I should receive ESPN, ABC, NBC, PBS, HBO, & Showtime. Of course some may be encrypted (e.g. HBO, Showtime, & possibly ESPN), but I was surprised first not to get PBS and later even more surprised to get CBS which the WebSite says isn't available at all. Odd...
post #74 of 212
DTV channel numbers over CATV tend to be shifted, even though the frequencies are within the "normal" 125 channel limit (e.g. frequency xxx MHz should be yyy, but instead shows up as zzz). A standard line-up card will probably not be of much help (at least not for those of us in TWC land...).

Later,
Bill

PS: Kei - when do you begin shipping? ;)
post #75 of 212
For those of you who's Fusion at least saw QAM signal, what did you do? Set it to cable, set type to digital, set modulation to QAM256, and let it scan? I ask only because the internal tuner on my Hitachi picks up the local Comcast QAM256 channels just fine, but the fusion didn't even seem to peep at them :(. I understand it won't tune them, but I thought from earlier posts it would at least register the signal.
post #76 of 212
Ok it is Fat Tuesday and I must be heading out, but I installed the Fussion III Gold today. Here is a really quick list of my findings.

Instalation:

Took less than 3 minutes and had no problems. Popped in the card, turned on the machine, ignored the xp hardware wizards, installed the Fusion Software CD, installed, restarted, done.

Findings:
I currently have a AIW 9600 pro. The tuner on the Fussion blows away the AIW tuner. Although, I will probably never use the analog tuners again.

I currently live in Center City, Philadelphia and with no antenna whatsoever I get a minimum of 83% on 15+ digital channels. (nice digital weather channel, spanish ones, religious worship channel, etc)

The picture is absolutely stunning and there isn't even any hidef shows on right now. I cannot wait to see shows like CSI or some college basketball.
Also, I am outputting the sound via an Audigy Platinum to my receiver. The digital sound is better than the analog w/o comparrison, much like the picture.

I will take some screen shots later. I'm very, very impressed.
post #77 of 212
Can't you just watch the Fat Tuesday report on the Fusion? Why are you letting real life intrude on our need to know?
post #78 of 212
I am also lurking....The stability and reliablity of the fusion timeshifting recording functions have been questioned in the past.

Guys please report on how well the timer recording functions work as you put this card thru it's paces.
post #79 of 212
Has anyone had any luck making the Fusion3 work with myHPTC and GotTV?

I've been only succesful to the point that I can watch liveTV on myHTPC.
However, I have not been able to timeshift. Also, I cannot output via SPDIF in GotTV (but with the Fusion software, SPDIF output is fine).

I've already posted in myhtpc.com and htpcnews.com, and I just wanted to see if anyone here can help me.
post #80 of 212
Quote:
Originally posted by boiler11
Is anyone planning on trying to use GotTV with their Fusion III? I can't get GotTV to work with my Fusion I, so I'm contemplating the purchase of a Fusion III.
I'm using GotTVPVR with my FusionII and it (mostly) works incredibly well. It has a great OSD. Full FF, RWD, and Pause control, and you can even cut and save any piece of the timeshifting buffer as a dvr-ms file. Also has a great EPG.

The downside is that it's called beta but it's more like alpha. The latest release has been pretty stable for me, but others have had zero success. There's a support forum for GotTV at myhtpc.net
Quote:
Originally posted by boiler11
Is anyone planning on selling their Fusion II to pay for their Fusion III?
Hmmm. :)
post #81 of 212
1080i show...no idea what it is and I hope i'm not braking any rules...here are a few pics, but I had to resize them due to restraints...i'm heading out
LL
post #82 of 212
same show, another snap
LL
post #83 of 212
3rd
LL
post #84 of 212
different show, no idea what...1080i again
LL
post #85 of 212
again
LL
post #86 of 212
Quote:
Originally posted by docvenzon

I've been only succesful to the point that I can watch liveTV on myHTPC.
However, I have not been able to timeshift. Also, I cannot output via SPDIF in GotTV (but with the Fusion software, SPDIF output is fine).

Sorry, this is a little off topic, but:

Which Fusion card do you have? Do you have a version of Intervideo WinDVD recorder installed? I don't think you can do timeshifting without the Intervideo encoder/decoder filters. Have you tried using AC3Filter as your audio filter? I have no personal experience with this yet, since I can't get GotTV to work at all with my Fusion I, but maybe you can output S/PDIF if you configure AC3Filter to output S/PDIF and then configure GotTV to use AC3Filter as your audio filter.

We should probably continue this discussion in the myHTPC GotTV forum.

Sean.
post #87 of 212
Just out of curiosity, does anybody know if the card works with Philly area comcast cable (I just subscribe to basic cable right now)? I'd like to buy one if you can pull digital local HDTV channels (NBC, ABC, CBS, UPN etc) off of cable instead of doing OTA. Right now I'm using the Fusion II, and it obviously can't do digital QAM cable.
post #88 of 212
Well here is some bad news. Just installed the card and have been playing with it for the past hour and a half. I scanned QAM256 and it came up with about 20 or so channels. Wasn't able to get a lock on anything. I did a rescan on selected strong QAM 256 signal and it didn't find anything at all (no idea what it does, but thought I would try)

As far as OTA goes, the signal on all my channels is at least 15% less. I used to be able to get NBC with the card, now I only get a 50% signal on it and no lock :( Was going to sell my Fusion II, but looks like I may need to hold on to it for a bit. I can get NBC off of cable if QAM 256 was working. BTW I am on cablevison in NY.

Not sure if I would recommend this to people looking to replace a Fusion II just yet, the drivers may not be up to snuff or maybe it's just the card isn't as sensative. Oh well :(, hopefully not a failed $200 experiment....
post #89 of 212
One more thing, I noticed it is not as stable as the old fusion II. I have had instances where I was able to get OTA channels, then scanned through a bit, switched to cable and came back and it stopped working. All and all it's not ready for primetime yet!
post #90 of 212
Pardon me if this is a stupid question, but is there any possibility something else changed in your setup, or the weather or something? Someone else reported that the FusionIII tuner was more sensitive than the II.

If you went from 65% to 50% with no other changes that does not sound good.
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