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post #61 of 452
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What? I haven't used up enough storage yet?

Ok. Here's the 1st 5th E Priest in the shadows.
LL
post #62 of 452
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...and finally, our buddy Aziz, with light on his face.
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post #63 of 452
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Just took a count. 49 screen shots.

A new record?

Or the harbringer of condemnation?

Who can say?

But here is no# 50
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post #64 of 452
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For all those lookin' for what to type.

don't ask this guy..., he's clueless.

........and I'm otta here fer good.

Please PM any requests or comments not directly related to this thread's context.
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post #65 of 452
MississippiMan is now MississippiMissionMan. If that didn't set you back a month's income, what would? NICE WORK! I just hope Mrs. MissMan understands and appreciates your endeavors.
post #66 of 452
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Originally posted by MississippiMan
Me is a defunct paint now IMO. But ME lightened by 1/2 can still be a good alternative for those who want to spend under $20.00 for a screen. You know who you are, ya cheapskates!


No, don't get me wrong, I'm ready to spend as much money as I need, as long as it worth it. And I don't mind getting dirty. But I've been reading several discouraging posts last time, that X1 won't yield any special results from the SD or SM backgrounds.

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Originally posted by MississippiMan

I hope that the issue of Screen Shot irrelevency will finally be put to rest.

Is there any reference shots around, like FOTR 15:06, or 5th Element 1:05:17, or you name it, so people can compare different setups side by side?
Because for my noob eyes they all look beautiful by itself.
post #67 of 452
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Originally posted by MississippiMan
I worked to make this a "reasonable" worst case.

100 watt bulb in a lamp only 5' from the front of the screen and 2 feet from the side edge.

Nobody is gonna watch movies like that, but it seems everybody wants to see how it would look. So...., yar it is.

If I'm seeing right, this is your painted screen without any border or masking, so the ragged area above and below (and a little bit on the right) that's a nice warm orange-brown is scatter off your screen paint from your ambient light source? This is an interesting picture.

-MM
post #68 of 452
Am I correct in assuming that sanding is not necessary if the paints are properly spayed, rather than rolled?
post #69 of 452
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When you spray more than two coats, you start to build up texture even when spraying. On SuperPlex, the rear needs no sanding whatsoever.

If after you have sprayed two Coats of MM on a wall, or a Mirror, and you can see obvious areas of overt thickness, gently wet sanding those areas first, then giving the remaining surface a very, very light sanding will help even out the layer, and prep it for an even smoother application of paint.

Usually, a third "evening" coat is required no matter what.
post #70 of 452
MississippiMan, what made you decide to up the White Opal pearlescent to 50% of the MM mixture? More to the point in your opinion has it made that much difference?

Thanks!
post #71 of 452
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Is there any reference shots around, like FOTR 15:06, or 5th Element 1:05:17, or you name it

Jedd-
I like the idea of posting the DVD title, chapter, and h:mm:ss.

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so people can compare different setups side by side?

That's hard to do. I tried it in this thread:
betcha never seen a CRT vs LCD comparison like this!

Especially see:
Fifth Element (Leeloo)
LOTR (Frodo) (anybody know h:mm:ss?)

-Clarence
post #72 of 452
In fact, anybody want to pick a scene from LOTR, provide the Ch & h:mm:ss, and create a new thread:

Title it "Post your best screenshot from LOTR chapter X, 0:15:06"

then we can post our best attempts of the same scene

please list
- type of projector
- type of screen
- size of screen
- type of camera
- exposure settings

No Photoshop/PaintShopPro enhancements allowed. I also suggest all screenshots be resized to a standard of 640 pixels wide. If possible, provide a link to the full-size digicam file.

If I get the camera out again, I'll try to find that scene (which character is it?) and start the post.

-Clarence
post #73 of 452
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Locked and loaded
post #74 of 452
MM,

A minor issue. I see you used and appear to recommend a 3/8" nap roller, which is a semi-smooth surface roller. Any reason to advocate it over a 1/4" nap roller, which is used to produce an even smoother surface?
post #75 of 452
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Originally posted by Tom_Bombadil
MM,

A minor issue. I see you used and appear to recommend a 3/8" nap roller, which is a semi-smooth surface roller. Any reason to advocate it over a 1/4" nap roller, which is used to produce an even smoother surface?

A 3/8" nap roller will apply paint smoothly enough that as it dries, it 'spreads' out to achieve it's "lay'. The issue with that particular size is that if you put on a little too much paint, then try to work it out past it's "tack time", your gonna start to leave streaky, uneven areas that exhibit the texture of the roller.

Using a 1/4' nap involves getting just the right amount of paint on the roller, applying it quickly and evenly, and knowing when to load the roller again. Plus, because the coating will be thinner, and dry quicker, you have even less time to work your finish. But if done right, and especially on top of a previously "wet sanded" surface, the 1/4" nap roller will leave a ultra smooth finish that to the touch has NO texture.
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post #76 of 452
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Used a 1/4" nap roller on this one.
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post #77 of 452
All-
Be sure to check out my screenshots for my new (temporary) SM/MM wall screen on the Official Super Deluxe Gallery thread. Whites are suddenly white again and the blacks are almost astonishingly black. Turned on HDNet Movies last night and the Towering Inferno was on, about 1 hour in. A bunch of folks in formal evening attire are rushing into a lobby to hit the elevators. The black tuxes looked incredible! Even my wife thought the improvement was immediate and obvious - which says a lot since she thinks I'm sorta crazy going after these improvements when everything looks ok to her already.

For those of you who don't want to bother with a mirror (and the size limitations thereof) will want to try this formula ASAP. Note that I used a neutral formulation of MM - no pigments added. And the original 1/3 UPW, 1/3 White Opal Pearlescent, and 1/3 Deep Base 1300. I will post some updated pics here when I have calibrated/tweaked to this new screen.
post #78 of 452
MississippiMan - I have been lurking for a while keeping track of yours & CMRA's progress. This weekend I built a 9' screen on MDF with your SM/MM formula. Just fired up my HS20 and it looks great. I will post a shot later but for now just wanted to thank you for all your work - Thanks!

BTW - your latest advice on a 3/8" nap roller is right on. I was using 1/4" and could not get an even coat (streaks and what not). As soon as I went to 3/8" those problems went away.

Thanks Again - Jim Beam
post #79 of 452
As promised, I calibrated and tweaked my Epson TW100 today and got some updated shots to show from my SM/MM screen. First up, Gladiator.

Proximo.
LL
post #80 of 452
Forgot to mention that these are taken from my new Pioneer DV-563 player.

Maxiumus.
LL
post #81 of 452
Max again. Should compare against MM's and CMRA's shots.
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post #82 of 452
And finally, the sister toward the very end. How about that blue sky?
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post #83 of 452
Now moving to Finding Nemo. I had to switch my setup to use my Bravo D1 with the DVI connection because the Pioneer wouldn't display the blacks properly without crushing shadow detail. Looks like I'm keeping both players after all. And now I know why CMRA uses different setups for animation and live-action movies.

Meet Bruce.
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post #84 of 452
Purple dude.
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post #85 of 452
Darla, again.
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post #86 of 452
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Boring Game.

Scoobs shots are looking superb.

Here's both of ours, side to side.
LL
post #87 of 452
I don't know about anyone else, but I'll gladly take the skin tones from my shot over the blues from MM's shot. I must say I'm very happy with this screen now - and it's really not even done particularly well. With a little more effort, I'd be very happy with this formulation as a screen solution in my house. Especially considering the price of the materials involved: maybe $60-75 for all paints and supplies.
post #88 of 452
I just want to say thanks to MM for posting this thread just in time

I got my screen prepped and painted friday/saturday, and was able to catch the game with it. My god man, I'm sure I'll end up doing the light fusion thing soon, but I sure as hell won't be resorting to a manufactured screen.... ever.

Thanks a lot man! Your time and effort are much appreciated!
post #89 of 452
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Originally posted by chadm
I just want to say thanks to MM for posting this thread just in time

I got my screen prepped and painted friday/saturday, and was able to catch the game with it. My god man, I'm sure I'll end up doing the light fusion thing soon, but I sure as hell won't be resorting to a manufactured screen.... ever.

Thanks a lot man! Your time and effort are much appreciated!

Thank YOU, chadm!

A few sucess stories is what we've been waiting to hear. There has been much 'hesitant' posting, and even more speculation as to the validity of both SM/MM & SD/MM LF as workable DIY screens, dispite the abundance of Screen Shots.

But CMRA & Myself have both "Been to the Mountain Top" and seen "The Light." (Light Fusion, that is! ) so we of course had no doubts. But it's the trust and the actual efforts of those like you, Scoob5555, and what others have recently done that give the whole idea the creedence it deserves.

Best of all, those with SM/MM or Sd/MM screens who attempt Screen shots to "show off' thier screens should be able to produce results that are far better than the ones that the "Old Guard" were used to seeing, and thereby decried as irrelevent. It's the screen that makes it possible, the PJs we already know do a good job, given the chance.

Please post for us the type of set up your using. It is a good thing to have a consensus of what is being used, and how many different PJs are involved. LCD-DLP-CRT, all can stand to gain something from it all, even if it is only the acquisition of a fine screen for a ridiculously low investment. THAT IS what motivated this whole thing anyway. The splendid results were just all the more "Icing on the Cake".

...and remember, all you naysayers, unlike the Shot below, we didn't hold a gun to anybody's head!
LL
post #90 of 452
Well, I plan to upload some shots and info about my setup as soon as possible. My tripod is currently in San Salvador, Bahamas on a research project however, so I can't take the shots. (I could, but I'll be shooting them in RAW format, and can't possibly steady my hand enough to get an accurate shot in such low light conditions at a decent resolution).

Anyway, when I get my first shots up, I'll post the info on my setup.

My only fear is that some person on here will find the inevitable flaw in my image, and point it out to me... thus leading to god knows how many credit card charges for whatever components. Ugh.
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