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post #121 of 819
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Originally posted by C.Y.
Also Flash Focus seems off after changes made to TPHP and TPVP.

That is because you did not re-register flash focus after tweaking. Go do manual convergence (or fine convergence in the service menu) and fix what needs to be fixed in all wide modes. Then, in the service menu, go to PJE and hit the FF button on the TV. Should say 'calibration ok' when it is done.

*make sure you re-reg FF when in FULL mode!!!*

Viola, you have just re registered your FF!
post #122 of 819
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Originally posted by BlackbeardsSaint
That is because you did not re-register flash focus after tweaking. Go do manual convergence (or fine convergence in the service menu) and fix what needs to be fixed in all wide modes. Then, in the service menu, go to PJE and hit the FF button on the TV. Should say 'calibration ok' when it is done.

*make sure you re-reg FF when in FULL mode!!!*

Viola, you have just re registered your FF!

It seems that in user mode Normal and Full mode share the same FF convergence, Zoom and Wide Zoom mode share another FF convergence. Anyway, so I should do manual convergence for all four modes, then go to service menu PJE screen and switch to Full mode and hit FF button on TV, and re-register FF is done? How about FF for the other three modes, do they need to be re-registered?
post #123 of 819
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Originally posted by C.Y.
It seems that in user mode Normal and Full mode share the same FF convergence, Zoom and Wide Zoom mode share another FF convergence. Anyway, so I should do manual convergence for all four modes, then go to service menu PJE screen and switch to Full mode and hit FF button on TV, and re-register FF is done? How about FF for the other three modes, do they need to be re-registered?

Have FULL mode on before you go into the service menu (just to keep yourself from hitting the wrong button and f'n up). You only need to register FF in FULL. Other than that, you are correct on everything!
post #124 of 819
I too will chime in with a request for information on removing the awful glare screen. I have a KP65WS510 and although the picture is great the glare is almost unbearable. I have a KP61HS10 which I restacked the glare screen. It looks great. I also have a Hitachi 65SWX20B whose glare screen is very much bearable. Even though I like the picture on the Sony better, I almost bought a (comparably priced) Mitsu because you can easily remove the screen but I gave in to the better picture.

Dino
post #125 of 819
I'd like to print out the glare screen removal instructions posted earlier in this thread, but the link seems to be dead. Anyone have a copy or a working link? Thanks!

Also, I was just curious as to how many WS550/WS510 owners have had their sets ISF calibrated and if they felt it was worth the money given the many tweaks that are available here and there. Of course, I'm not one to discount a proper grayscale calibration however.
post #126 of 819
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Originally posted by jagz

Also, I was just curious as to how many WS550/WS510 owners have had their sets ISF calibrated and if they felt it was worth the money given the many tweaks that are available here and there. Of course, I'm not one to discount a proper grayscale calibration however.

I'll make a thread on it as soon as Eliab is done eith my set on the 28th.
post #127 of 819
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I'll make a thread on it as soon as Eliab is done eith my set on the 28th.

Looking forward to it!
Keep us updated.
post #128 of 819
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Originally posted by vmark
Turn down the brightness and contrast to less than half... probably in the vicinity of 30% for each. Also, turn sharpness ALL the way down and creep it back up to where it looks good. I have mine at about 15% (set using AVIA). The sharpness won't decrease burn-in issues, but it will make your picture look MUCH better overall.

I started going through DVE last night. Need to start it over because it's tough to pay attention to it when you're tired (unless it was the very detailed explanations it gives rather than a basic make the outside black bar disappear), but I did notice that the picture and contrast settings appeared to be greater than 30% after going through the first couple of steps on the disk.

Another thing I noticed is when the menu screen is up, some of the text is off the left and right sides of the screen. Also, when the box screen is up that shows the 5% cut off and 10%, I can see all of the line around the outer most box except at the bottom where the line is right on the extent of the screen.
post #129 of 819
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Originally posted by lancer1991


Another thing I noticed is when the menu screen is up, some of the text is off the left and right sides of the screen. Also, when the box screen is up that shows the 5% cut off and 10%, I can see all of the line around the outer most box except at the bottom where the line is right on the extent of the screen.

Too much overscan.
post #130 of 819
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Too much overscan.

How do I fix that, if at all. How about the brightness and contrast settings? Should they end up that high after going through the disk? The one thing I've noticed and don't like is that when someone is wearing dark clothing, there is no differentiation of anything. All I see is just black. What I mean is you can't tell where a jacket may button, or where the pants meet the jacket, etc.
post #131 of 819
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Originally posted by lancer1991
How do I fix that, if at all. How about the brightness and contrast settings? Should they end up that high after going through the disk? The one thing I've noticed and don't like is that when someone is wearing dark clothing, there is no differentiation of anything. All I see is just black. What I mean is you can't tell where a jacket may button, or where the pants meet the jacket, etc.

Picture setting is for white level and it is the one you need to set low (say under 40%) to prevent burn-in. Brightness setting is for black level, you need to set it so the left-most black bar just disappears into the background in "DVD Pluge w/ Gray Scale" test. If it is set lower than that, you won't be able to see the different black level. Also if your DVD player has IRE settings, make sure it is set to use 0 IRE.

When you check overscan, make sure you are on Full or Normal mode to check it. If you are on wide zoom mode, it could show 5% on sides and 10% on top and bottom.
post #132 of 819
Adjust overscan with HSIZ and VSIZ in the service menu.
post #133 of 819
I have a Daewoo DVD player.

Any way to program the Sony remote to control this player (is there some default code that'll work)?

Thanks!
post #134 of 819
Contact sony through their website.
post #135 of 819
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Also if your DVD player has IRE settings, make sure it is set to use 0 IRE.

My DVD player is an old Sony that is connected through S-video. I actually can't see the far left and right bars in the Pluge. I adjusted the brightness so I could see the inside bars which I believe were suppose to be 4% below black.

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Adjust overscan with HSIZ and VSIZ in the service menu.

Does making changes in the service menu void any warranties? Any instructions on how to go through the service menu anywhere?

Thanks all for your help. I'm truly enjoying my new TV and hope with further tweaks (and maybe a new DVD player) I will have an even better picture.
post #136 of 819
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Does making changes in the service menu void any warranties? Any instructions on how to go through the service menu anywhere?

I'll bet that Sony would say it does though they don't explicitly mention it anywhere, but I'm sure your could quibble with them to continue warranty coverage if it came down to it as long as the adjustments you made in the service menu weren't the direct cause of the malfunction in question.

There's a link to a tweak guide somewhere in this thread that includes a pretty good explanation on how to navigate the service menu.
post #137 of 819
Most of the tweaks are digital adjustments, so just write down the factory numbers before making any adjustment. If a service is required, just change them back to the factory settings. But I doubt the service person will go to the service menu and check each value to see if they were modified.
post #138 of 819
I have a KP57WS510 and have been noticing for the first couple of minutes after turning it on there are lines in a rainbow pattern in the backround (this can really be seen on dark scenes where the screen should be black but is alittle bluish with the white rainbow lines) but they go away after a few minutes. Does anyone else have this and is this normal?
post #139 of 819
Never heard of this. You may also want to try posting this on the Sony forum at ***************. There's some Sony experts over there.
post #140 of 819
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Originally posted by ken14
I have a KP57WS510 and have been noticing for the first couple of minutes after turning it on there are lines in a rainbow pattern in the backround (this can really be seen on dark scenes where the screen should be black but is alittle bluish with the white rainbow lines) but they go away after a few minutes. Does anyone else have this and is this normal?


I saw the similar thing (one blue line and one green line in rainbow pattern), but mine happens during channel change or video input change (you know during the transition, a black screen is displayed). It only happen sometimes and I am not sure it is normal or not. Once the pictures from the next channel show up, those lines would disappear.
post #141 of 819
I have a KP57WS510 also and have never noticed what you guys are noticing.
post #142 of 819
Before tonights t-wolves game purchased the 65ws550. It will be coming saturday. Hopefully TNT-HD will be on Comcast by then. I think this is wishfull thinking. A quick question, I have a old non-progressive Sony DVD player. Will the TV do a good job with this or should I get a different player, and if so what are you guys using?

Look forward to getting it up and tweaking.

mightyhonda
post #143 of 819
You don't need a new DVD player but it's always nice to get new toys. As long as you're using a component connection you old player should be just fine. I'm using a Panasonic RP-82.
post #144 of 819
I apologize if this question has been answered before. The picture on HD channels viewed through the DVI connection is great. However, when I view the picture on those channels through my DVD recorder, I have a flickering at the top. The funny thing is that the flickering was not there yesterday. And this only happens with the HD channels (which I realize my DVD recorder is not receiving in HD). I suspect this is a pretty common problem with RPTVs, but I am not sure what the fix is. Does anyone have any suggestions?
post #145 of 819
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Originally posted by Joe_M
You don't need a new DVD player but it's always nice to get new toys. As long as you're using a component connection you old player should be just fine. I'm using a Panasonic RP-82.

Good news, so would I then set the tv to cinemotion for the progressive scan and that will look good?

Saturday is not coming soon enough.
post #146 of 819
yossarian, could be some form of copy protection. are you saying that you're picture is fine if you go directly to the TV? Is it all HD channels or just movie channels?
post #147 of 819
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Originally posted by Joe_M
yossarian, could be some form of copy protection. are you saying that you're picture is fine if you go directly to the TV? Is it all HD channels or just movie channels?

It is all HD channels which are not at the time broadcasting HD signals. The HBO-HD signal was fine on the DVD player. But NBC and ESPN-HD had the flicker at the top of the screen. But I did not notice it yesterday during non-HD programming.
post #148 of 819
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Originally posted by mightyhonda
Good news, so would I then set the tv to cinemotion for the progressive scan and that will look good?

Saturday is not coming soon enough.

You can use whichever DRC mode you wish. Experiment and find what you like. I use Cinemotion for 3:2 film based sources. Progressive works fine for most other viewing. I don't use Interlaced mode very much.

By the way, I am still using a 2.5 year old non-Progressive Sony DVP-NC600 5 disc changer and my picture is great IMO.
post #149 of 819
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Originally posted by Chad T
You can use whichever DRC mode you wish. Experiment and find what you like. I use Cinemotion for 3:2 film based sources. Progressive works fine for most other viewing. I don't use Interlaced mode very much.

By the way, I am still using a 2.5 year old non-Progressive Sony DVP-NC600 5 disc changer and my picture is great IMO.


Sounds good, my player is the DVP-NS300. They should be similar. I am getting a little anxious like a child on Christmas Eve. Should be fun.
post #150 of 819
Got a question about convergence. I started going through the tweaks document and did the HPOS and VPOS. My overscan is ~5%. Picture is now centered. Looking at the convergence grid (white on black). I can clearly see the three CRT's separated horizontally. Vertically they look pretty good. Is there any way to move the whole grid for a single color? The whole picture is pretty much off and it doesn't seem to make sense to do each point. I need a more coarse adjustment.
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