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post #61 of 819
If it's applicable to the KP-46WT500 I would like to remove the glare screen as well... is there a document or guide about how to do this correctly?
post #62 of 819
This is how I removed mine, but its the KP57WS510, so not sure if its applicable, but someone must of removed the screen from your model

 

sony glare screen removal.zip 3.1787109375k . file
post #63 of 819
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Originally posted by gallobluechip
The other thing I suggest is removing that useless Glare screen, you can do it yourself and you won't believe the difference it makes.

Um, what exactly is the difference we won't believe? I assume it's some sort of improvement, but it's hard to tell from the incomplete and vague wording.
post #64 of 819
The Difference is you can watch in Blazing Sunlight or in a room full of Lights directly in front of the screen and you won't see even one reflection anywhere. You can have Open windows behind your viewing space, flood lights, whatever, and you won't see them. If you've ever seen the Glare problems on some of the RPTV's, you'll know what I mean. If you haven't, then its hard to describe, Have a nice day!!!!!!!!!
post #65 of 819
Quote:


Originally posted by gallobluechip
The Difference is you can watch in Blazing Sunlight or in a room full of Lights directly in front of the screen and you won't see even one reflection anywhere. You can have Open windows behind your viewing space, flood lights, whatever, and you won't see them. If you've ever seen the Glare problems on some of the RPTV's, you'll know what I mean. If you haven't, then its hard to describe, Have a nice day!!!!!!!!!

Why do the even have the screen if removing it is so much better?
post #66 of 819
The WS550 has a different anti-glare screen than the WS510, so I guess I hadn't noticed any severe glare problems.

When I was looking at the Pioneer 643, the screen looked like a mirror to me and that factored against it, among other things.
post #67 of 819
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Originally posted by Gymrat123
Why do the even have the screen if removing it is so much better?

It's my understanding that the screen is a protective cover for the actual projection screen. The projection screen is comparatively fragile and more difficult to clean, while the protective screen, being the shiney surface it is, cleans easily and is somewhat more robust. It's a shame they had to make it that reflective though.
post #68 of 819
Exactly right, it protects against kids and pets, lol, but if you don't have any of those, you don't need it at all.
post #69 of 819
On the WS550, in most product literature, "Antenna Level For DTV " is listed. Looking through the owners manual and the actual television menu's I find no mention of this feature...

I guess it may be the actual "Channel Reception Level meter" in the Digital Guide menu?

Or, is this an adjustable item?

Is this a built in feature of the integrated ATSC tuner?

Thanks,



Video Features:

3 D Digital Comb Filter

Antenna Level For DTV

Auto Channel Program

Auto Pedestal Clamp

Auto White Balance

Caption Vision (CC)
post #70 of 819
Quote:


Originally posted by TS45
On the WS550, in most product literature, "Antenna Level For DTV " is listed. Looking through the owners manual and the actual television menu's I find no mention of this feature...

I'm guessing that they are referring to the digital signal strength meter in the dtv guide.
post #71 of 819
thanks, I agree
post #72 of 819
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Originally posted by DirkBelig
[BAs shown in Buji's photo, our Windex-hued gal only rates her left eye in the eyes of our Sonys, so take a look at the attachment here to see what you've been missing. [/b]

I have a KP-46WT510 and use a 2+ year old Sony DVD-NC600 5 disc changer with it. I did a test with the AOTC DVD and experienced the same phenomenon. Actually worse. I can just barely see "blue girl's" eye. I did do an HPOS service menu adjustment shifting things to the left a bit, which accounts for some, but still there is still some serious image cropping going on. I have been wanting to replace my DVD player and with this in mind I am going to put image cropping up high on my list of priorities. I have been considering getting a Denon 910 as the Secrets gives it a passing score with image cropping and it really seems to be a pretty good player...and fits into my budget. Has anybody used a 910 with a late model Sony RPTV?
post #73 of 819
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Originally posted by vmark
It's my understanding that the screen is a protective cover for the actual projection screen. The projection screen is comparatively fragile and more difficult to clean, while the protective screen, being the shiney surface it is, cleans easily and is somewhat more robust. It's a shame they had to make it that reflective though.

Is it possible to replace this screen with something less reflective? Or apply some sort of coating?
post #74 of 819
Not that I'm aware of. The usual solution is to just remove it completely. Not advisable if you have small children with dirty hands though.

I'm not brave enough to remove my screen, so I rely on my almost adequate lighting control.
post #75 of 819
Problem / issue

My optical out on the back of my 57ws550 does not 'click' in with my optical cable, but rather just sits inside it, making it very easy to fall out. This is not good. Anyone else have this issue, and know a fix? I do not think the problem lies in my cable
post #76 of 819
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Originally posted by wilked
Problem / issue

My optical out on the back of my 57ws550 does not 'click' in with my optical cable, but rather just sits inside it, making it very easy to fall out. This is not good. Anyone else have this issue, and know a fix? I do not think the problem lies in my cable

Mine too, I looked at it closely, and it seems that the 'seat bump' which holds the optical cable in place isn't as big as some of my other devices. Additionally, the cable I was using's 'seat bump' wasn't as nicely defined as some of my other cables. I switched to a different cable to verify, and it works well, but isn't long enough of a cable. Since this is behind the tv, I don't worry about it too much.

There may be a good reason why sony devised it thus, the other day I switched from Dish to DirecTV, and in the process of running a new co-ax cable for the satellite tuner (the DirecTivo needs 2) the installer stepped on the optical cable and it popped right out. Because of the angle where they have the optical in on the back of the set, I wonder if they made it not so tight to prevent damage to the plug casing/input housing in such an event.

That, or it's just a silver lining on the cloud.
post #77 of 819
Quote:


Originally posted by Buji

That, or it's just a silver lining on the cloud.

I think this is closer to the truth
post #78 of 819
So, has the verdict come in for the 510's?- do they really downconvert 720p to 480p?
post #79 of 819
Has anyone tapped into the expanded Memory Stick PRO? This appears to be the most full featured MS driver available in all the current models. It really has "expanded" capabilities.

Some of you may already know this but I like:

1. The capability to Zoom in on any portion of the picture, cool.

2. The ability to add an embedded background "Piano soundtrack" to any Memory Stick.

3. The ability to add your own music on your memory stick as it plays back!
Took me awhile to figure this out (OK, my son helped a lot). We:
A. downloaded "CD Ripper" for free.
B. ripped songs from various CD's and IMPORTANT, saved them as an MP3 file.
C. inserted our MS into our computers MS drive and copied over the ripped MP3, with title of song.
D. inserted MS into WS550 and went into the MS menu, wholla! The songs were listed and played during the slide show!!

(I even used an old 4mg. MS, placed 9 photo's on it but had to "down rez" the ripped song in the CD Ripper software menu, did not sound as good but still makes a neat Demo for the shop.)

5. Did hook-up TRV-730 camcorder to WS550 via IEEE1394 Firewire connection, it looked good, yet made me yearn for a truly Progressive or HD camcorder.

Thats about it for now, hope this is not "repeat" info!

Tom
post #80 of 819
If you could, please post your WS550 series "Build Date", "Assembled In" location and size (51,57 or 65) if possible, please?

Thanks, Tom
post #81 of 819
My 51-incher was built in Sept. 2003 in the USA.

The bug problem just took a turn for the worse! The other night, I noticed another moth had flown in and while it eventually left (and we've covered all the holes - all ~700 of them!!! - with tulle) I noticed that there is some sort of hair - likely cat fur - permanently marking the picture!!!

It projects as being about an inch long, halfway up the vertical axis and a third of the way over from the left edge - DEFINITELY NOT ignorable! It appears sharp (i.e. no color halos) so I'm guessing it's either on the screen it self or the mirror, as opposed to one of the CRTs.

How the fook do I clean this up. Does the screen come off by just undoing all the screws in the back of the perimeter or is it more involved than that? He'p!!!
post #82 of 819
I jumped on the ws550 wagon yesterday. will be getting my used 57ws550 on Friday. I decided on the ws550 after reading this message board...hope i wont be disappointed. LOL.
I got the floor model at circuit city for about $2K+free delivery. I also bought the performance warranty for 499.99. ?? Best Buy and sears both has the new one for >$2300. I know I can get it on the internet cheaper, but I'm more comfortable buying big items from B&M.
The new 57ws510 is $1849 (i think) at CC. But decided against it after reading the msg board.

Any inputs for a newbie?? TIA.
post #83 of 819
Anyone got advice/techniques for taking off the screen and cleaning the hair out? (You'd think the people who took off the glare screen would've chimed in by now.)
post #84 of 819
this forum will address alot of tweaks:

http://www.***************.com/htsth...categories.php
post #85 of 819
I just got a 57ws510 to replace Toshiba 57H93, the picture out of the box is pretty good. But it takes about 5 seconds to see picture come up after turn on the TV, is it supposed to be that long? Toshiba only takes about 3 seconds. Toshiba's audio (using internal speaker only) sounds better than Sony's. Other than that, 57ws510 is pretty good, at least I won't see that white bar on the Toshiba anymore.
post #86 of 819
Yup, that sounds about right. My 65WS550 takes 5 seconds to turn on too. Kinda long, but I'm used it now.
post #87 of 819
Quote:


Originally posted by Valentino
I jumped on the ws550 wagon yesterday. will be getting my used 57ws550 on Friday. I decided on the ws550 after reading this message board...hope i wont be disappointed. LOL.
I got the floor model at circuit city for about $2K+free delivery. I also bought the performance warranty for 499.99. ?? Best Buy and sears both has the new one for >$2300. I know I can get it on the internet cheaper, but I'm more comfortable buying big items from B&M.
The new 57ws510 is $1849 (i think) at CC. But decided against it after reading the msg board.

Any inputs for a newbie?? TIA.

Congratulations on your new HDTV purchase, which I'm sure you'll love. Since you're 57WS550 already has a built-in ATSC tuner I suggest purchasing the Zenith Silver-Sensor antenna for local OTA HD channels in your area. It's very cheap and is the FCC reference standard OTA HD antenna. This we you can show off your HDTV capabilities and drool over PBS HD (yup I said PBS). It should cost you no more than $40, but can be obtained online for $15-$25. Even if you get cable w/ HD, this option is so cheap and easy it's worth it.

Next, after your TV's break-in period of about 100 hrs. calibrate it using the wonderful DVE dvd (about $20). You can calibrate it right now, but may need to re-calibrate after the break-in period as that's when your TV will be at its peak performance by then (more detail and brightness, well just a tad due to the phosphors basically getting used to everything). Remember to turn the contrast down to about 30% and adjust brightness accordingly to reduce burn-in potential (the DVD will go over this).

After that, you should do (actually do them asap) some service menu tweaks like decreasing red push, turning off svm, doing manual convergence, softening the picture, reducing overscan (if needed, but 5% is ok), etc. Do a search on the username Buji and WS550 to get his specific thread on tweaks for the WS550 series of Sony RPCRTs, very informative. There are other threads too (can't remember, just search), but this is a good start.

Good luck and enjoy, be careful though, this will turn into an addiction (I gotta stop fiddling w/ my TV and just enjoy, but it's so fun ;p )
post #88 of 819
Another thing I noticed is that there is no numerical number to indicate brightness, contract level, etc. It's hard to write down the result after AVIA calibration, I guess one can count the number of vertical lines instead.

There is an option called DRC mode in the user video mode, does anyone know what it is? Does it mean Interlaced will display in 1080i and Progressive will display in 480p? It looks like 1080i signal can only be displayed as 1080i and 720p signal can only be displayed as 480p, does it mean everything else you can have the choice of either 1080i or 480p?

It seems like I can't keep sharpness low for SD input and have sharpness high for DVD input since those settings are global for every inputs. Do you guys have some solution for this?

Does the ws550 tweak also works for ws510? Thanks!
post #89 of 819
FYI, we tried using the RCA DVR10 HD recorder, this unit will not interface with the WS550 ilink interface. Read hear, page 6:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0&pagenumber=1

C.Y.,

"It seems like I can't keep sharpness low for SD input and have sharpness high for DVD input since those settings are global for every inputs. Do you guys have some solution for this? "

I believe you will have to use the global settings, I have used the service mode, for some of the settings you must save a setting in the 1080i, 480p or 480i mode, not sure if the sharpness control will react this way in the service menu.

I like to use the STANDARD mode for 480i viewing (cable or antenna), then use the PRO mode for DVD. If your DVD player allows custom picture settings, you could leave say the STANDARD set for 480i, then tweak up the DVD player controls to bring them back to your needs.

Tom
post #90 of 819
Quote:


Originally posted by TS45

C.Y.,

"It seems like I can't keep sharpness low for SD input and have sharpness high for DVD input since those settings are global for every inputs. Do you guys have some solution for this? "

I believe you will have to use the global settings, I have used the service mode, for some of the settings you must save a setting in the 1080i, 480p or 480i mode, not sure if the sharpness control will react this way in the service menu.

I like to use the STANDARD mode for 480i viewing (cable or antenna), then use the PRO mode for DVD. If your DVD player allows custom picture settings, you could leave say the STANDARD set for 480i, then tweak up the DVD player controls to bring them back to your needs.

Tom

That is my solution for now, I just use PRO mode for SD and MOVIE mode for DVD.

Is it true that PRO and MOVIE mode has SVM turned off by default and I need to go to service mode to turn it off for STANDARD and VIVID mode (this is ws510)? And each video mode(pro, movie, etc) has one SVM setting?

How about the red push setting? How many combinations I need to do in service menu in order to reduce it for all modes? Does each video mode(pro, movie, etc) has one red push setting? Or does each signal type (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i) has one red push setting? Or does each A/V input (TV, Video1 to video 7) has one red push setting? Or it is the combination of those?

I am still not sure about the DRC option, do I assume it right that it is only used for 480i signal to be converted to either 480p or 1080i?

Wide mode option is only available for 480p and 480i signals, if DVD send in 480p signal with 16:9 aspect ratio, which mode should I use so there is no stretch done? It seems Normal mode is still 4:3. Thanks!
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