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post #1 of 10
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If the black level is higher played on other dvd players, wouldn't just bringing the level down on the T.V. set fix the problem?

I know that's a drag, but I'm interested in purchasing one, mainly because it's the best thing I've read about in my price range of $300-$400.

I just want to know if that's all that's needed to correct for viewing in another dvd player.

i'm mostly going to use it to archive my tivo stuff.

thanks in advance for responses
post #2 of 10
Better off avoiding the 30. The Panasonic DMR-E50 and Pioneer DVR-310 can be had for $400 or cheaper, depending on the authorized retailer. I'd go with those 2, which don't have the black level bug.

Have a good one.
post #3 of 10
Unfortunately, your recordings will forever be inaccurate if a DVDR biases the black-level setup but you can compensate using many different methods on playback:

1) You can dub using an external signal processor to correct the setup. This won't help when using the DVDR's internal tuner. You can also use that processor for playback of biased recordings.

2) Your DVD player can be adjusted if it has the flexibility. The DVDR itself may automatically adjust on playback as is the case in the Panasonic HS2.

3) You can recalibrate your display (TV) to match the setup but you would have to recalibrate for other sources. Many better TVs maintain separate adjustments for each input but you would still have to recalibrate every time you swap sources on that input.

You also might want to pass out your DVD recordings to others and then they have to deal with the problem.
post #4 of 10
I faced the same question after buying an e30 on an impulse.

Upon reading about the black level bug, I returned the e30 and purchased an e50. They are available for about $300 at a very large on-line auction website.
post #5 of 10
You can correct all future recordings by using and external processor to add an 'error' to the black level that will 'cancel' the inherent black level error in the E30.

Those discs already recorded have the wrong black level and you will have to live with it or do a workaround as mentioned by xortam above.
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
thanks for the input. i think i might just wait until i have enough to buy the E80. I like the thought of being able to edit out commercials.

who knows? maybe it will drop down in price by the time i get it too.

thanks again
post #7 of 10
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Originally posted by incuboy
i think i might just wait until i have enough to buy the E80. I like the thought of being able to edit out commercials.
The E30 (which I have) also allows one to edit out commercials, though it's a bit of a chore. Is it easier with the E80?
post #8 of 10
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Quote:
Originally posted by Maurice2
The E30 (which I have) also allows one to edit out commercials, though it's a bit of a chore. Is it easier with the E80?
Do you have a black level problem with your E30? And how do you edit commercials with it?
post #9 of 10
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Originally posted by incuboy
Do you have a black level problem with your E30? And how do you edit commercials with it?
No black level problem as far as my needs are concerned.
Commercials can be edited out the same way they can be with the E80, I believe. Just follow instructions in the owner's manual.
post #10 of 10
With the Panasonics, you can only edit out commercials on a DVD-RAM , not a DVD-R, unless you have a model with the hard drive. Same is true of the Pioneers except using DVD-RW VR mode instead of DVD-RAM.

Have a good one.
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