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post #31 of 744
DenonJeff, it's great too hear from you ! Please see this as subtle encouragement to continue posting.

Paul.
post #32 of 744
DenonJeff, I understand you cannot reveal a lot about upcoming players, but can you confirm the rumours about a future "dvd-3900" to fill the gap between the 2900 and the 5900?
Thanks!
post #33 of 744
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Originally posted by Krobar
Kris,

Couldnt find reference to the Integra DPC-7.1, any chance of the upcoming DPS-10.5 or RDV-1.1 entering the shootout?

Those models aren't available yet, I did ask for them though. They will eventually be in a shootout, just not this one.
post #34 of 744
Jeff,
Thanks for your input. You are one of the reasons I bought a 5900 because of direct access for information. Job well done!

Dave
post #35 of 744
Jeff, hi and thanks for your answers here. Hope you could answer mine also: I am planning to buy a new high-end DVD player and I believe the best offer nowadays is the Denon 5900. However I would like to have in my new DVD player HDMI high resolution multichannel digital audio output capability and I know this will arrive with the 2nd generation HDMI chipsets (i.e. the Pioneer 59AVi or 868 does not have 2nd generation HDMI). Will those new Denons have this feature?? Thanks in advance, regards,

Jorge.
post #36 of 744
Jorge,

Why bother waiting for HDMI2. HDMI V1 + I-Link is the same thing using two cables.
post #37 of 744
Just because I do not have an I-link at my preamp but have the manufacter promise (Tag McLaren AV32DP) of an upgrade to HDMI2 when available...and I would love to use the AV32DP's internal DACs for DVDA and/or SACD.

Thanks anyway for your quick answer but I am waiting from a response from Jeff or Kris (if he knows those details).
post #38 of 744
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Just because I do not have an I-link at my preamp but have the manufacter promise (Tag McLaren AV32DP) of an upgrade to HDMI2 when available...and I would love to use the AV32DP's internal DACs for DVDA and/or SACD.
Understood Jolaca. Unique situation and I hope Jeff lets you know.
post #39 of 744
As far as I remember HDMI specs rev.2 (with 8 channel hi rez audio) were approved in January 2004. I hope this means that all new HDMI equipped players entering the market this year will carry the so called HDMI2 interface.
post #40 of 744
Nice news, I did not know they were aproved on January.
I also hope so!!, every new player should use the new HDMI version.
post #41 of 744
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Originally posted by TauRus
As far as I remember HDMI specs rev.2 (with 8 channel hi rez audio) were approved in January 2004. I hope this means that all new HDMI equipped players entering the market this year will carry the so called HDMI2 interface.
But I believe high-res audio through HDMI does not include SACD only DVD-Audio. So it will be a long time before we see this HDMI convergence.
post #42 of 744
Yeah, I knew this, that is way I said DVD-A and/or SACD.
Anyway Jeff...any clues on HDMIv2 on the new upcoming Denon players??
post #43 of 744
As the chipset was just announced a couple of weeks ago, I don't know the status on this years players that will feature HDMI, I have asked but I haven't gotten an answer as of yet.

Regards,
post #44 of 744
Thank you anyway for your interest. If you get any updated news about it I hope you will share it with all of us.

Thanks again,

Jorge.
post #45 of 744
DenonJeff!?
Are the digital amplifier receivers going to be offered in the good ole US of A? The panasonic digital's are getting alot of interest with their clean powerful pathway(hint hint).
Thanks,
Eric:D
post #46 of 744
Denon 2200 Mini-Review

I bought the Denon 2200 primarily for its excellent Dvd-Audio, SACD and digital bass management capabilities. What set the 2200 apart from the lower priced competition is a wide deep sound stage and its natural bass definition, pitch, articulation and bloom. Not just the lower bass either.

As for the video it needs to be adjusted for best/excellent performance. I've got a Sony GWIII 60" LCD display and use its progressive component inputs.

1) Out of the box the sharpness is way too high. Shades of Samsung 931. (Hyper detail with some noise). Setting sharpness to -3 o corrects the large bump in frequency response.
2) I had to set the individual gamma to get the proper black level. But first I tried to adjust the brightness and contrast settings:
Setting he menu black level item to "Lighter" shows way to far below 7.5 IRE black. (The sixth box on the THX test patterns). The brightness control can only be increased NOT decreased.
Setting the menu item to "Darker" results in not enough levels of grey being displayed. Increased the brightness or contrast caused the white peaks to be clipped. No good!
Only by adjusting the lower levels of the individual gamma (and reducing the sharpness) settings was I able to achieve a beautifully natural three dimensional no-noise picture.
post #47 of 744
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1) Out of the box the sharpness is way too high. Shades of Samsung 931. (Hyper detail with some noise). Setting sharpness to -3 o corrects the large bump in frequency response.
The frequency response for the 2200 is near flat, if you are seeing a hump, it is your display causing it, not the player.
post #48 of 744
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Originally posted by Kris Deering
The frequency response for the 2200 is near flat, if you are seeing a hump, it is your display causing it, not the player.
I got out my old 40MHz scope to capture but its bandwidth is not wide enough to capture a progressive signal (27Mhz B/W).

When the sharpness is adjusted while viewing a frequency response test pattern is is easy to see the contrast change (about a third of the way over with the common THX optimizer grey scale/frequency response test pattern).
As you are no doubt aware Kris (I say this for others) an increase in contrast expands blacks down and whites further up. It increase the dynamic range of the signal. It also changes the frequency response as only certain frequencies are being expanded.

Whatever the case, the picture is plenty sharp with the sharpness at -3 and unnatural (to me) at 0. I mainly used the Treasure Planet Dvd for the adjustments.
post #49 of 744
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Whatever the case, the picture is plenty sharp with the sharpness at -3 and unnatural (to me) at 0. I mainly used the Treasure Planet Dvd for the adjustments.
If I'm remembering correctly, Treasure Planet suffers from some fairly heavy edge enhancement. You might want to consider a different title to use for evaluating and adjusting your sharpness settings.
post #50 of 744
I use a multiburst pattern from AVIA, not a poorly mastered DVD. Another thing worth noting. You shouldn't use the THX Optimodes for setting up your display. They are based on that specific disc only, and not a general concensus. I would use DVE.

I used a Tek 3032B Oscope with a video adapter card that handles all video signals including HD to measure. The response is near flat, again you are seeing either problems with your monitor, or the DVD you are testing with.
post #51 of 744
It has been some time since the last post,

isn't there any news about the new lineup of universal players? :confused: :confused: :confused:

The 2900 has been around for 1 year now and is starting to be dated (no digital audio/video outputs e.g.) so it's about time it gets replaced, don't you think ;)

And a 3910 would even be better :cool:

DenonJeff, can you raise the veil???
post #52 of 744
I agree!! It is time to unveil the new Denon line.

Come on Jeff!!! PLEASE!!! Tell us something about the 2900, 5900 replacements.
post #53 of 744
Well folks I have finally gotten caught up with emails, PMs and sending out firmware (If you still need the latest, fill out attached form and send - note the 5900 firmware I am sending out now does not include the 'Partial-Macro' fix as it corrects nothing else, and I was scalded by Japan for evening releasing it).

DVD-2900/2200 firmware now includes a fix for Diana Krall's "Live in Paris" DVD - if you select the dts track from the disc menu, the player ignores your request and plays the Dolby 2.0 track - you must then select the dts track using the 'Audio' button on the remote. - This particular fix was not available till last week.

So about the new, upcoming models???? I see some are a little ansy...

Well all I can say for now is we will have 2 progressive scan single disc players under $300. Universal players, we will have 3 starting at $700 and going up to $2500. We will incorporate digital connections, both audio and/or video on almost all units - don't ask for more details now, I can't tell you....

New players will start to be released in July all the way through October...

DVD Changers carry on, and we will not add a new model this year. Sorry.

Regards,

 

dvd firmware request form.pdf 14.6357421875k . file
post #54 of 744
Hey Jeff,

I am a DVD-2900 owner an recently received and uploaded the Alien fix firmware about 3 or 4 weeks ago. Did the Alien fix also take care of the Diana Krall issue?

Please advise.

Thanks!
post #55 of 744
Quote:
Originally posted by DenonJeff
Universal players, we will have 3 starting at $700 and going up to $2500. We will incorporate digital connections, both audio and/or video on almost all units - don't ask for more details now, I can't tell you....:)
Regards,
Jeff, thanks for your posting.
If you can't answer the following question then maybe someone else can.
Will 3805 receivers be able to accept DVD-audio and SACD signals in their native format using Denon's third generation digital interface?

Or will SACD format be converted to PCM first then transmitted?
post #56 of 744
kechulater,

No, I just received the Krall fix mated with the Alien fix. You can upload this if you want. Just send me the request sheet...


softengr,

With the 3805, and the 5803(A) SACD through the link can be listened to natively as DSD, with no Bass management, or converted to PCM to get BM. Your choice. The Burr-Brown DACs used in the 3805 D/A either PCM or DSD natively.

I have been playing with this in my office, it's pretty frickin cool, because we still give you Sub. Input level control and independent channel output level controls with DSD straight.

Regards,
post #57 of 744
Quote:
Originally posted by DenonJeff
kechulater,
softengr,

With the 3805, and the 5803(A) SACD through the link can be listened to natively as DSD, with no Bass management, or converted to PCM to get BM. Your choice. The Burr-Brown DACs used in the 3805 D/A either PCM or DSD natively.

I have been playing with this in my office, it's pretty frickin cool, because we still give you Sub. Input level control and independent channel output level controls with DSD straight.

Regards,
This is a best possible outcome. I would like to congratulate you and the Denon design teams for producing such technological marvels at very reasonable prices. You guys must critically LISTEN to your products. Otherwise they would not exhibit such outstanding sound quality.

I see the competition and they are down on their knees!
post #58 of 744
softengr,

Thanks for the kind words as I will pass them along to our engineers who take enormous pride in their creations.

Our engineers are all audio guys who truly care about the sound, and look, of DENON products, because let's face it, in the end isn't what all this stuff in about?

Regards,
post #59 of 744
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Originally posted by sergiohm
But I believe high-res audio through HDMI does not include SACD only DVD-Audio. So it will be a long time before we see this HDMI convergence.
Sergio, then what in your opinion is high resolution audio?
post #60 of 744
Jeff,
Any update on your engineers fixing the macroblocking issue? Also, what is the update on the firewire info on the 5900 as well.

Thanks,

Dave
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