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I've had both inquiries here at the forum, and by e-mail, re various Bybee filters. So how about if we consolidate them and discuss them for now in this one thread?

I will later list my observations in my own system.

Jack Bybee uses declassified submarine technology, basically room temperature superconductor purifiers. This approach is a controversial and expensive one. I really luv most of the Bybee stuff in my dedicated audio and home theater system, but the stuff has been quite expensive. I couldn't live without it in view of the improvement I have heard and seen in my system. But I can't say that its necessarily anywhere close to the bang for the buck of the PS Audio Power Plant P300.

What's good about the Bybee stuff is that not only does it work wonders for me; it may or may not work wonders for you; but Bob Williams at www.audionut.com gives you a thirty day period to return it if you don't like it for the $$. And Bob will give you competitive pricing.

Caveat: If you have significant setup problems with your system, audio or videowise, don't expect Bybee to cure it.
In fact, if you have a significant problem, the Bybee purifiers may help you notice that problem even more. Bybee purifiers are not a panacea for improper system setup. But with proper system setup, my experience is that if you are willing to pay the price, they will take you up additional levels of sonic and video improvement. At least in my system this is what I have experienced.

Also, keep in mind that components and accessories in your system may interplay with Bybee purifiers. I had Combak Enacom AC filters in my system. They seemed fine with Bybee stuff when I wasn't using Bybee AC filters on my Bryston amplifiers. But when I added the Bybee AC filters to my Bryston amplfiers, initially I didn't like the sound at all. Then I slept on it, removed the Combak filters, put back the Bybee AC filters, and presto, system has never sounded better! Now that Bybee filters have worn in on amplifiers, I do plan to reintroduce the Combak AC filters and see how it sounds, but odds are that its too much filtering. And I do like the Combak stuff, and its fairly inexpensive, unlike the Bybee stuff, and Combak may be an option for some audio improvement as for many the Bybee stuff just costs too much.
post #2 of 6
I haven't received delivery on my two P300's yet, but when I do, I'll report my findings in the "P300 thread".

I DID receive my Bybee AC filter, though. I tried one on the Faroudja doubler, at first. Seemed to make a difference in brightness
and color, but not striking. I tried the other on the Runco 930 FPTV (it had a stock cord pluggged into a Pananmax comax that was
plugged strraight into the ceiling outlet. I removed the Panamax from the path.) and haven't really been able to notice anything yet. I had my HT guy over to tweek some focus and convergence for my new HDTV settings, so maybe a couple of days viewing and then REMOVING it from the system will better show me it's accomplishments.

Anyway, where would you think I'd get best bang for the Bybee buck in this crazy system of mine?
Dedicated line #1:
Krell Stereo Power Amp directly into wall.
Carver Premier 5 channel amp directly into wall

Dedicated (kind-of; the HT lights are on this circuit but are off during most HT activity) line #2 (ceiling outlet):
Runco celiing-mounted 930 FPTV, curently plugged into Panamax Max2 box on ceiling.

Dedicated line #3:
1)Panamax Max 1500 with the follwing plugged into it:
Faroudja Ld-200 Line Doubler
RCA DTC-100 HDTV/DirecTV receiver
Pioneer 414 DVD
Pioneer LDS-2 LD
Lexicon DC-1 Preamp/Processor
Sunfire Sub
Audio Alchemy CD transport
Audio Alchemy digital Jitter box
JVC Video Switcher (needed xtra s-video input)

2) Standard power strip with follwing plugged into it (least used components):
Nakamichi Tape Deck
Antenna rotor
RF demodulator for LD
Magnum Dynalab FM tuner

Note: with other things going on here at home, the video portion is easier to analyze than the audio (couple of kids under the weather, keeping volume down, and so on).
post #3 of 6
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The Bybee AC purifiers, one at a time, may have a bit subtle of an effect, but as you use more, you may hear and see more of a difference. But its up to you, is it worth the $$$.

Try a Bybee AC purifier (Quantum Charger filter) on the IEC input to each of your amplifiers. Leave it on for several days, and leave the system running so its pulling power, even if volume is almost off. See what you think.

Try the Bybee AC filter on the IEC input of everything that you can. Again, if you can, leave component on using at least minimal power for a few days, for breakin. See what you think.

However, I feel that you should get your two P300s in place and know the sound with those first, and then experiment with the Bybee stuff. I am confident that the P300s will give you the most bang for the buck. And with the P300 for your line doubler, then try the Bybee AC filter on the P300s IEC input, as well as the inputs of components plugged into the P300, and see what you think.

I don't mean to put down anyone's system. But my use of Bybee is in the context of my own system, dedicated room, 19 dedicated 20 amp circuits, multiple P300s, mono Bryston amplifiers, etc. Any change anywhere to my system can be heard. It could be that some of the Bybee stuff, which could be very subtle if any change in many systems, is very marked in my system. So you need to take my personal experiences with Bybee stuff with a large grain of salt - but certainly if you feel that you have a high end home theater or audio system, keep in mind that many such enthusiasts have been real happy with the Bybee stuff and maybe some of it will work for you.
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NEWSFLASH! I like the new Bybee F-connector purifier on my DSS. Seems to brighten picture a tad and same for color. Now that I just got my analog cable tv all tweaked to absolute perfection, I tried the Bybee F-connector on it - verdict a no-no, in that whereas before using it I had no interference anymore on any channels, after using it I had a lot of interference. I find myself wondering whether the F-connnector on the purifier is up to snuff, as analog cable is so subject to interference when anything is less than perfect; and digital DSS is much more tolerant.
post #5 of 6
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Jen, I'm using balanced power throughout my system except for amplifiers, by use of three PS Audio P300s and one Power Wedge Ultra 111 for my Dwin CRT. I find the Bybee filters in conjunction work wonders in my system. Similarly, I respect your findings using some Tice and other stuff. Bottom line is that I report it as I see it - the Bybee F-connector presently doesn't do it for cable tv. I suspect the problem is a relatively poor connector on the end. As I touch the connector, when its connected to the VCR, I can see the interference in the picture coming and going and changing.
post #6 of 6
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I already pointed out that I took the MOndial splitter out - now that I have the exterior cable line grounded to my audio video room 8 foot copper ground rod (which is connected by 6 guage copper wire to my house ground), I no longer needed the Mondial to lift the ground. Sounds and looks better than ever for cable now. No noisy interference patterns. I could connect the Bybee F-connector purifier to where the cable line comes in to the splitter, but frankly, I have already determined that this particular filter has a poor F-connector, and if you wiggle it just a bit as it remains connected, you will see noisy interference patterns develop. But using the F-connector filter with DSS only seems to improve the picture quality a bit and I don't have those analog noise pattern problems with DSS.
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