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post #8191 of 9353
12/17/11 at 7:47am
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Originally Posted by Larry Kenney View Post

Thanks for the update. Should I just remove 43-900312KG from the list?

Maybe. I can't find out what the current status for that channel is. I've tried lots of searches and can't turn up anything newer than about 2008.

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Trying to keep up with the pending digital stations is next to impossible. I'm seriously thinking of removing the pending list altogether and only listing stations that are actually on the air.

I think the economy has wreaked havoc with the plans of many LP stations. Many transitions I expected to see long ago have not occurred. Some LPs are playing paperwork games with the FCC. Then there's KAZV which I can't figure out. They're a real local station with some locally produced programming, new management and a new web site and not a word about going digital.

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Where do you look on the FCC site for current information? The file pages that I link to from my lists never seem to be up to date.

This is where I look:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/p...d/app_sear.htm

Enter the call sign with the "%" wildcard tagged on and you'll get a list of all the filings that the FCC has for the station. Many of them are just routine filings that the FCC requires. If there's another place to look, I don't know where it is.

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post #8192 of 9353
12/17/11 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by 888CALLFCC View Post

I get the same problem here with that station.
Now that you fixed the rotor, ... better chances trying KSBW than with that station.
KSBW comes in around 8 am to noon every day here. It varies.
I need to build a 20 foot yagi to fix that.
Here, 8 & 25 are the strongest Salinas stations.
For San Jose stations, 36 & 54 (RF50) are the strongest.

I still haven't seen any signals from Salinas or Monterey here. I've got a 100 foot hill to the southeast about two blocks away, so that doesn't help. South Bay signals are strong enough to get over the hill, but not 8, 13 or 25 from further south. Even KAXT 1 comes in with a 19 dB signal now.

Signals from Walnut Grove were amazingly strong this morning! I even got KCRA 3 over the KGO signal on 35. KVIE 6 and KXTV 10 were both about 20 dB, KOVR 13 was 25 dB, KMAX 31 was 29 dB and KQCA 58 was 22 dB. These are the strongest signals I've ever seen from up that way. The combination of the new antenna heights and good conditions make for great signals. I still couldn't get enough signal from KTFK RF 26 or KSPX RF 48 to lock in though.

Larry
SF
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post #8193 of 9353
12/17/11 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by Larry Kenney View Post

I still haven't seen any signals from Salinas or Monterey here. I've got a 100 foot hill to the southeast about two blocks away, so that doesn't help.

Many years ago I had a friend in SF who had a good shot to the southeast and he could receive KSBW without much trouble. I'm sure you're right about the hill. The transmitter overlays in Google Earth don't show KSBW to be very good anywhere in SF.

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I still couldn't get enough signal from KTFK RF 26 or KSPX RF 48 to lock in though.

Larry
SF

I looked at the FCC database and both those stations have antenna patterns unfavorable for SF. KTFK is on top of the tower but only about 30 KW in your direction. KSPX has about 115 KW in your direction but they are side mounted and about 350' lower. I'm also betting their antenna is on the east side of the tower to cover the valley and the foothills which would make it even worse for you.

Chuck
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post #8194 of 9353
12/18/11 at 1:19am
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Originally Posted by Calaveras View Post

Many years ago I had a friend in SF who had a good shot to the southeast and he could receive KSBW without much trouble.
Chuck

I once lived in Daly City, KSBW was weak but did come in. But at that time they were on Mt. Madonna near Gilroy. I guess Fremont Peak is a no go for San Francisco.

The roof of the old Montgomery Ward store (Now Target) at Serramonte Mall still has a triple stack cut for ch-11 antenna(s) that were used for Loma Prieta KNTV 11
Bottom 2 are direct, the top one was some type of signal canceling because it is way off.
I was always amazed the picture quality was "good" (VCR quality) for such a location blocked by a mountain.
I would guess they used a single channel amp or some technique because they are too close to Sutro tower for a broadband amp.
I will try to grab a photo ... next time I'm there.
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post #8195 of 9353
12/18/11 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by Calaveras View Post

This is where I look:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/p...d/app_sear.htm

Enter the call sign with the "%" wildcard tagged on and you'll get a list of all the filings that the FCC has for the station. Many of them are just routine filings that the FCC requires. If there's another place to look, I don't know where it is.

Chuck

I can't seem to get any results from that site. I enter the callsign and % and come up with "No results found." I've tried it with the % right after the callsign and with a space between the callsign and the %. Can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

Larry
SF
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post #8196 of 9353
12/18/11 at 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by Larry Kenney View Post

I can't seem to get any results from that site. I enter the callsign and % and come up with "No results found." I've tried it with the % right after the callsign and with a space between the callsign and the %. Can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

Larry
SF

I can't imagine what the problem is. If I enter "KXTV%" I get a list with 46 entries. No other field should have an entry unless you're doing a different search. The 3 menus should show a blank space at the top meaning nothing is selected there. If you know the full call sign you can enter that. For example you must enter KCRA-TV or KCRA% to get the list. If you enter KCRA you'll get "No results."

Anyone else who can't get this to work?

Chuck
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post #8197 of 9353
12/18/11 at 5:47pm
I got it to work, Chuck. Don't know what I was doing wrong before, but all is well now.

Thanks!

Larry
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post #8198 of 9353
12/20/11 at 10:30pm
Here's an interesting article that discusses many of the problems encountered in DTV transmission which are behind unreliable Bay Area and Sacramento DTV reception as it relates to DTV transmission standards. It also demonstrates why Congress and the FCC blew it by prematurely adopting the indequate, legacy ATSC 8-VSB standard in rushing to satisfy the grab for broadcast spectrum by AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and Blackberry, forcing the American public and broadcasters to rush out and invest in already outdated and inadequate DTV and HDTV equipment and converter boxes:

Does China Have the Best Digital Television Standard on the Planet?
By Raj Karamchedu, Chief Operating Officer, Legend Silicon
First Published May 2009
http://www.legendsilicon.com/?t=1&m=3&v=,176


TDS-OFDM (Time Domain Synchronous – Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiplexing)



Technical Features
■ Advanced signal processing technology in the time-frequency domain.
■ Guard interval used for multi path protection as well as frame identification, signal acquisition, carrier recovery, symbol timing recovery and channel estimation.
■ Pseudorandom Number (PN) sequence stream is defined in the time domain, and the Discrete Fourier Transform (DFT) data stream is defined in the frequency domain. The two streams are then multiplexed in the time domain, enabling Time Domain Synchronization (TDS).
■ The PN sequence uses spread spectrum technology for fast signal acquisition and tracking capabilities, enabling fast channel changing for digital television.
■ The PN sequence provides signal strength information, which can be used to acquire the strongest signal through receiver adjustment and antenna orientation.

From http://www.legendsilicon.com/?t=1&m=1&v=17
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post #8199 of 9353
12/21/11 at 7:55am
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Originally Posted by Smoke_signal View Post

Does China Have the Best Digital Television Standard on the Planet?
By Raj Karamchedu, Chief Operating Officer, Legend Silicon
First Published May 2009
http://www.legendsilicon.com/?t=1&m=3&v=,176

I don't think it is fair to compare a decision that was based on technology available in 1996 to a decision that was based on technology available in 2006. It may be fair to argue over 8VSB vs DVB-T. In 2016 there may be something better available than what there was in 2006. No technology adopted will be best for all eternity. For how many years was it argued that PAL was better than NTSC?

The real problem we have is being locked into one standard and being unable to upgrade to something better due to spectrum limitations.

Chuck
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post #8200 of 9353
12/21/11 at 9:54am
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Originally Posted by Smoke_signal View Post

Here's an interesting article that discusses many of the problems encountered in DTV transmission which are behind unreliable Bay Area and Sacramento DTV reception as it relates to DTV transmission standards. It also demonstrates why Congress and the FCC blew it by prematurely adopting the indequate, legacy ATSC 8-VSB standard in rushing to satisfy the grab for broadcast spectrum by AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and Blackberry, forcing the American public and broadcasters to rush out and invest in already outdated and inadequate DTV and HDTV equipment and converter boxes:

As the article states, the designers looked at all existing standards and the experience gained in implementing them and took the best from each.

By your logic, one should never implement any standards at all because if you wait a few years something better will come out. But that wouldn't have worked because they would never have had a chance to test their ideas. I'm happier to have been able to watch 10 years of HD TV instead of SD TV.
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post #8201 of 9353
12/21/11 at 8:16pm
I don't know if this was posted already but it certainly gives pause.

http://www.cedmagazine.com/news/2011...y-for-tax-cuts
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post #8202 of 9353
12/22/11 at 1:04am
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Originally Posted by Calaveras View Post

I don't think it is fair to compare a decision that was based on technology available in 1996 to a decision that was based on technology available in 2006. It may be fair to argue over 8VSB vs DVB-T. In 2016 there may be something better available than what there was in 2006. No technology adopted will be best for all eternity. For how many years was it argued that PAL was better than NTSC?

The real problem we have is being locked into one standard and being unable to upgrade to something better due to spectrum limitations.

Chuck


There was still plenty of time BEFORE the DTV transition date for the FCC and Congress to reevaluate its decision on implementing 8-VSB. It should have been painfully obvious to the FCC that 8-VSB would not reliably serve numerous "fringe" and city DTV viewers nor handle the current and developing technology demands such as mobile DTV. The Chinese DTV standard was announced and available for the FCC to inspect and consider three years BEFORE the June 12, 2009 DTV transition date. The American public was in no position of knowledge to evaluate DTV standards. It was the responsibility of the FCC to look after the best interests of the American TV viewing audience, keep Congress informed, and make sure the adopted DTV standards adequately served those interests.

Congress and the FCC bowed to the pressures of AT&T, Verizon and other lobbyists to grab the broadcast spectrum as quickly as they could without any concern over whether the 8-VSB technology adequately served the current technology needs of DTV and the American public. The original DTV transition date was December 31, 2006. It was pushed back to 2009, and there was no reason why it couldn't be pushed back further.

There is a large class of Americans for which the cost and luxury of broadband, iPads, "smart-phones", cable and satellite television remains out of bounds. They don't have expensive toys on which to spend their time "Tweeting" all day long. They just want to watch a few hours of news and entertainment and forget that they have no money to pay the mortgage or buy groceries.
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post #8203 of 9353
12/22/11 at 2:46am
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Originally Posted by rcrach View Post

I don't know if this was posted already but it certainly gives pause.

http://www.cedmagazine.com/news/2011...y-for-tax-cuts

Where the heck do they get this 10% of U.S. households receiving OTA DTV only figure? The latest data estimates suggest OTA DTV only U.S. households are at least 14% and growing.

What's more is that if the U.S. DTV transmission standard were on a par with the Chinese DTV transmission standard, the signal quality improvement, increased range, mobile HDTV reception, ease of reception, and fast channel changing ability would encourage still more viewers to drop cable and satellite in favor of OTA viewing.

Note that the "add on" ATSC M/H mobile DTV standard requires using an additional portion of the available station bandwidth to separately broadcast additional mobile channels at low resolution. The broadcast networks have been holding up the implementation of ATSC M/H mobile DTV because they want to separately charge the local broadcasters for simulcasting their programs on separate ATSC M/H channels. The Chinese standard eliminates this issue because the same, single HDTV broadcast channel can be viewed on both fixed and mobile receivers without using any additional bandwidth or simulcasts.

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TV Viewership: Up, Down, or Irrelevant?
June 27th, 2011
http://displaydaily.com/2011/06/27/t...or-irrelevant/

The Convergence Consulting Group Ltd.
Market Research Reports
http://www.convergenceonline.com/reports.php

The Battle for the American Couch Potato: Online and Traditional TV, and Movie Distribution, April 2011
http://www.convergenceonline.com/dow...tentUS2011.pdf

Over-the-air TV households: the real numbers from TVB
Dennis Haarsager
Tuesday, 14 June 2011
http://technology360.typepad.com/tec...-pubmedia.html

Over-the-Air TV: 43 Million "Broadcast-Only" Consumers Pose a Challenge for Marketers
By David Tice
http://www.knowledgenetworks.com/acc...-fall2010.html

CEA survey says 10 percent of pay-TV households will cut the cord this year
Jun 3, 2011 8:00 AM, By Michael Grotticelli
http://broadcastengineering.com/news...ord-this-year/
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post #8204 of 9353
12/22/11 at 4:31am
Political comments edited and deleted. Further off topic comments will result in loss of the ability to participate at AVS.
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post #8205 of 9353
12/22/11 at 4:42am
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Originally Posted by Smoke_signal View Post

Here's an interesting article that discusses many of the problems encountered in DTV transmission which are behind unreliable Bay Area and Sacramento DTV reception as it relates to DTV transmission standards. It also demonstrates why Congress and the FCC blew it by prematurely adopting the indequate, legacy ATSC 8-VSB standard in rushing to satisfy the grab for broadcast spectrum by AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and Blackberry, forcing the American public and broadcasters to rush out and invest in already outdated and inadequate DTV and HDTV equipment and converter boxes:

Does China Have the Best Digital Television Standard on the Planet?
By Raj Karamchedu, Chief Operating Officer, Legend Silicon
First Published May 2009

Thanks for the paid commercial announcement.....

You do realize the entire basis for this article is the fact the author is the COO of a company that would directly benefit from any country that adopted his technology, right?

There are any number of ATSC proponents who benefit in the same way from use of their technology, and would have the same type of arguments for their system.

As already noted and discussed here for years, the existing ATSC standard was chosen as the best available, both at the time and for the various types of broadcast environments we have in the US. Other alternatives were part of a reconsideration the FCC did well after the initial decision. The one you mention wasn't available until Spring 2009, ~13 years after ATSC was adapted. Of course it would be more advanced, but hardly an option 13 years late. There is no point in rehashing it. None.


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post #8206 of 9353
12/22/11 at 5:02am
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Originally Posted by Smoke_signal View Post

Where the heck do they get this 10% of U.S. households receiving OTA DTV only figure? Such data is at least 5 years old and pre-DTV transition during better times and when cable/satellite fees were cheaper.

Primarily from this recent CEA study, which has been questioned and contradicted by any number of other sources, including the ones you list.

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CEA Study: Consumers Are Tuning Out Over-the-Air TV
New CEA Study Makes the Case for Incentive Auctions for Broadcast Spectrum, Finds Just Eight Percent of U.S. TV Households Rely On Over-the-Air TV

Arlington, Virginia 5/31/2011

New research from the Consumer Electronics Association (CEA)® found consumers are relying less and less on over-the-air TV signals and few U.S. households have interest in cancelling their pay-TV service.

In a phone survey (available at link below) of 1,256 adults conducted in December 2010, CEA found the number of homes that rely on over-the-air signals for TV programming plummeted last year to eight percent of all U.S. households with TVs. Over-the-air TV viewing has been steadily declining since 2005, according to CEA’s research.

“Over-the-air TV was once the defining distribution platform,” said Gary Shapiro, CEA president and CEO. “But using huge swaths of wireless spectrum to deliver TV to homes no longer makes economic sense. Congress should pass legislation to allow for incentive auctions so free market dynamics can find the best purposes for underused broadcast spectrum, such as wireless broadband.”

The study also found that pay-TV providers face little threat of their customers cancelling their service in favor of over-the-air broadcast TV and Internet video. Seventy-six percent of respondents said they were unlikely or very unlikely to cancel pay-TV service. By contrast, just 10 percent of households said they were likely or very likely to cancel pay-TV service.

“Contrary to the National Association of Broadcasters’ assertions, antenna sales are falling and cord-cutters are not shifting to over-the-air television but rather to the Internet. The only cord being cut these days is the one to the antenna,” Shapiro said. “It’s time we accept this shift away from over-the-air TV as an irrevocable fact of the TV market. The numbers tell the story.”

While the survey found consumers were unwilling to cancel pay-TV service, more and more are viewing Internet video from Hulu, Netflix and others on their TVs, which is still the dominant device to watch video content. Nevertheless, computers, car video devices and smartphones are increasingly being used to watch video content.

CEA recently found that 96 percent or 114 million, of U.S. households own a TV. Therefore, there are just nine million homes now exclusively watching over-the-air TV. By contrast, consumers are quickly adopting smartphones and alternative display devices such as tablet PCs, and wireless broadband data use is exploding. According to CEA’s 13th Annual Household CE Ownership and Market Potential Study, U.S. households owning a smartphone is estimated to skyrocket from 33 percent in 2010 to 45 percent in 2012.

http://www.ce.org/Press/CurrentNews/...l.asp?id=12105
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post #8207 of 9353
12/25/11 at 3:02pm
About a month ago I posted about my reception problems in San Jose (ZIp code 95130).

I am happy to report that I have solved all those problems. It turned out that switching antenna from DB8 to Winegard 7697P and heightening the antenna mast from 10 to 20 ft solved the reception issues. This antenna is quite large and $30 or so more expensive, but in my case it was worth it.

I am now getting the attached list of 75 TV channels (with some duplicates):

Channel list

Thanks to the people who replied with useful advice. Comcast cable has been cancelled.

 

Channel list CA 95130.txt 3.40625k . file
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post #8208 of 9353
12/26/11 at 11:46am
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About a month ago I posted about my reception problems in San Jose (ZIp code 95130).

I am happy to report that I have solved all those problems. It turned out that switching antenna from DB8 to Winegard 7697P and heightening the antenna mast from 10 to 20 ft solved the reception issues.

Your new antenna and higher position appears to be working very well for you. There is only one station missing from the list you provided of what I'd think you should get, and that's KCSM which transmits on channel 43 from Sutro Tower, virtual channel 60.

Your new antenna is doing great for distance, picking up KTLN 68 from Novato, probably 65 to 70 miles away, and KRCB 22 which transmits from Sonoma Mountain near Santa Rosa, about 85 miles away. I bet that if you had a rotor and you turned the antenna southeast you'd get several stations from Salinas-Monterey.

One thing that I found interesting is the way your tuner logs the stations. For some it uses the virtual channel while for others it uses the transmitter channel. For example, KAXT transmits on channel 42 and its virtual channel is 1, and your list shows it that way. But KTVU, which is virtual channel 2, shows up as channel 44.3 and 44.4, its transmitter channel. Channels 4, 5, 7, 11, 14, 20, 26 and 28 are all listed by virtual channel, but 9 is shown as 30, 22 is shown as 23, 32 as 33, 66 as 34, etc. I wonder what causes this? Could it be that those listed by transmitter channel are weaker and the tuner is not picking up the PSIP information?

One other thing of interest, some stations are listed twice. KTNC, virtual channel 42, for example, is shown as 42.1, 42.2 and 42.3, but the station is also listed as sub-channels of KDTV as channels 14.3, 14.4 and 14.5. Channel 14 is their transmitter channel.

It can get quite confusing where a station's virtual channel is the transmitter channel of another station. This happens with 14 - KDTV and KTNC, 32 - KMTP and KEMO, 38 - KRON and KCNS, 42 - KTNC and KAXT, 44 - KBCW and KTVU and 50 - KQEH and KEMO. There are more combinations if you include Sacramento/Stockton and Salinas/Monterey stations.

Larry
SF
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post #8209 of 9353
1/1/12 at 8:10am
Happy New Year!

Did anyone happen to notice the amazing tropo last night or were you all out partying? Signals from all over were at levels I never thought possible. Most signals were 15 - 30 dB above typical levels. Unfortunately I discovered that most of the stations have multipath problems that kept them from obtaining high SNRs despite their signal strengths. I thought this problem was limited to Walnut Grove but it's not.

Chuck
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post #8210 of 9353
1/1/12 at 8:50am
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Happy New Year!

Did anyone happen to notice the amazing tropo last night or were you all out partying? Signals from all over were at levels I never thought possible. Most signals were 15 - 30 dB above typical levels. Unfortunately I discovered that most of the stations have multipath problems that kept them from obtaining high SNRs despite their signal strengths. I thought this problem was limited to Walnut Grove but it's not.

Chuck

Darn, you mean I could have got 42.3 for the first time in SJ?

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post #8211 of 9353
1/1/12 at 12:52pm
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Happy New Year!

Did anyone happen to notice the amazing tropo last night or were you all out partying?

Chuck

I wasn't out partying, but I wasn't tuning around either. It's too bad that I missed the strong signals.

Happy New Year!

Update: 1:45 PM 1/1/12
I just took a look around the band and signals are WAY UP this afternoon.
KCRA 3 - 17 dB (despite KGO's translator)
KVIE 6 - 24-25 dB
KXTV 10 - 26.5 dB (holding solid with little variation)
KOVR 13 - 23-24 dB
KMAX 31 - 25-26 dB
KTNC 42 - 23-24 dB
KEMO 50 - 28-29 dB
KDTS 52 - 13-16 dB (This is RF8 on Mt. Diablo... still varying like crazy.)
KQCA 58 - 20-21 dB (Not much change from normal.)
KTLN 68 - 29-30 dB

Larry
SF
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post #8212 of 9353
1/1/12 at 2:08pm
as promised, 11.3 universal sports is gone today. might could be that 11.2 got a bitrate boost from the deal, b/c the widescreen SD image looked much clearer than the grainy mess it appeared to be the few times i tuned in before.
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post #8213 of 9353
1/2/12 at 12:16am
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Originally Posted by Calaveras View Post

Happy New Year!

Did anyone happen to notice the amazing tropo last night or were you all out partying? Signals from all over were at levels I never thought possible.

Chuck

On Sunday 1-1-12 , Between 6 and 7:30pm KVIE & KXTV were double what they normally are.
But this is a day after your report.
I only see signal surges that last about 1 to 2 hours at most.
52-1 vanished during this event .. (same antenna)
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post #8214 of 9353
1/3/12 at 5:57pm
Latest update on stations in this area, from Doug Smith, W9WI, via the Worldwide DX Association "VHF-UHF Digest":

Martinez - Request for flash cut to digital for K49HV, channel 49, 15 kW
Monterey - Granted digital station - KMUV-LD, channel 21, 4.5 kW - move from channel 23 analog
Sacramento - Request for power increase - KXTV, channel 10, to 28.6 kW
Sacramento - Two applications conditionally approved for channel 43. The stations are expected to share the channel. 1-100 kW, 2-650 kW
San Francisco - Power increase granted - KMMC, channel 40, 6 kW
San Jose - New translator, KGO-0824IJ - channel 35 - for KGO, San Francisco
Santa Rosa - Power increase granted - KEMO, channel 32, 20 kW, 928 m

Larry
SF
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post #8215 of 9353
1/3/12 at 6:18pm
Hey folks, I'm having trouble getting channel 7(ABC) in my area. Area code 94109, I'm facing North

I picked up a RaidoShack Amplified HDTV Anenna, which doesn't seem to be helping much. I also live in a Concrete building.

Any suggestions?
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post #8216 of 9353
1/3/12 at 6:27pm
K49hv ca martinez
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1/3/12 at 6:30pm
K49HV CA MARTINEZ
This LPTV is not in Northern California but in Southern California. North of Indio. there is no requirement that a LPTV cover the city of license.
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post #8218 of 9353
1/3/12 at 10:31pm
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K49HV CA MARTINEZ
This LPTV is not in Northern California but in Southern California. North of Indio. there is no requirement that a LPTV cover the city of license.

I was wondering about that. When I went to check on the location of the transmitter to update my DTV channel lists, I found the Indio location shown. Is there a Martinez down there or is it licensed to the Martinez here in the East Bay? How can a station be transmiting that far away from its city of license? I've never heard of a channel 49 in Martinez... now I know why!

UPDATE: Someone has reported that there is a town by the name of Martinez near Palm Springs, so K49HV is licensed to that Martinez, not the one in the East Bay.
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post #8219 of 9353
1/3/12 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by Melee Penguin View Post

Hey folks, I'm having trouble getting channel 7(ABC) in my area. Area code 94109, I'm facing North

I picked up a RaidoShack Amplified HDTV Anenna, which doesn't seem to be helping much. I also live in a Concrete building.

Any suggestions?

Is the antenna made for VHF and UHF or just UHF? You need the VHF part to receive KGO. Also, VHF signals do not penetrate buildings well, so that could be part of your problem. You need to get the antenna outside facing Sutro Tower.

Larry
SF
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post #8220 of 9353
1/4/12 at 7:30am
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Originally Posted by Larry Kenney View Post

Is the antenna made for VHF and UHF or just UHF?

It's both VHF and UHF, Freq. 54-230MHz VHF and 88-108MHz UHF.

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Originally Posted by Larry Kenney View Post

Also, VHF signals do not penetrate buildings well, so that could be part of your problem. You need to get the antenna outside facing Sutro Tower.

Larry
SF

I'm in a high rise apartment building facing north, so that's definitely a can of worms.
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