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post #8971 of 10422
I'm just about 2 miles north of SJC. I just got a HDHomerun delivered yesterday and have been using it with a Mohu leaf antenna. I also live in the second story of a 2 floor apartment complex, but am South and East facing (darn!).

There is no one place for the Mohu that can receive all the major networks for me. I understand NBC (RF 12) and ABC (RF 7) should be spotty since they're high VHF, and the Mohu is a UHF antenna.

But I can't get the ABC translator station on RF 35. I don't understand why this is a problem if I can get RF 48 (fox translator), and RF 42, on the same tower, only ~7miles away.

Similarly, I can find a place where CBS (RF 29) comes in strong, but PBS (RF 30) - on the same tower, and same transmitter power - is spotty. And the same spotty problem with CW (RF 45).

I was under the impression that, most things being equal, I could get all the stations from the same tower.

BTW, here is my TVFool report: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dcc49fd5566e791

Again, I'm in an apartment, so no roof antennas, or anything outside. But I did come across several favorable reviews for the Clearstream C2. Would this help much in my situation?
post #8972 of 10422
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Originally Posted by bender2929 View Post

I was under the impression that, most things being equal, I could get all the stations from the same tower.

Ha ha! You'd think but it's not the case. You can't even guarantee that stations sharing the same antenna will all come in. Just the frequency difference between channels can result in a wide variation in reception. You've got 2 sets of three stations sharing antennas on Sutro tower. I've got one set of 3 in Walnut Grove sharing an antenna. I've seen them track in strength or be completely different. Some channels vary in strength over just the width of one channel. I'm sure multipath varies between and within channels too.

I can't imagine why you can't receive KGO on 35 from where you are if everything else from up there comes in fine.

Chuck
post #8973 of 10422
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Originally Posted by Calaveras View Post

Ha ha! You'd think but it's not the case. You can't even guarantee that stations sharing the same antenna will all come in. Just the frequency difference between channels can result in a wide variation in reception. You've got 2 sets of three stations sharing antennas on Sutro tower. I've got one set of 3 in Walnut Grove sharing an antenna. I've seen them track in strength or be completely different. Some channels vary in strength over just the width of one channel. I'm sure multipath varies between and within channels too.
I can't imagine why you can't receive KGO on 35 from where you are if everything else from up there comes in fine.
Chuck

Hah, and I forgot to account for the weather, too! Because today, I can't not get KGO 35. Even with the Mohu turned flat side on, it's getting incredible signal strength today.

Guess I'll need to start reading up on just what is temperature inversion. Or perhaps tvfool.com should add a "TV-weather-reception" report biggrin.gif
post #8974 of 10422
I'm using the Mohu Leaf also, in Mountain View. Getting all the major channels except for NBC. Can anyone tell me why that might be the case? It seems like the distance to the tower is around 30 miles, similar to CBS, ABC, etc?

Someone mentioned that NBC is VHF and Mohu is mostly UHF, is that the case? In that case, is there an antenna that someone can recommend that is more well rounded? Would it be worth it to try the Mohu Leaf Plus?

Thanks
post #8975 of 10422
Quote:
Someone mentioned that NBC is VHF and Mohu is mostly UHF, is that the case? In that case, is there an antenna that someone can recommend that is more well rounded? Would it be worth it to try the Mohu Leaf Plus?

1. Yes, that is correct. The Leaf (or the amplified version) will not receive VHF very well since it's too small.

2. Try a basic loop and rabbit ears from Radio Shack. If cost isn't an issue, try a ClearStream 2V with an indoor base. It's a heck of a lot bigger and more expensive, but it's probably about the best antenna for indoors if you don't poke yourself on the dipoles.

3. Probably not. the Plus is just a Leaf with an amplifier added.
post #8976 of 10422
Is KQEH going HD?

I just spotted this in an email newsletter from KQED:

"HD is coming to KQED Plus on XFINITY 710. Now see all your favorites in glorious high def, including the KQED Plus countdown to Downton Abbey beginning New Year's Eve."

So are they just going to feed an HD signal to Comcast, or will this also be OTA? I noticed on their website a reference to some "new equipment" going in at both transmitters a couple of weeks ago.


Patty
post #8977 of 10422
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Originally Posted by wintertime View Post

Is KQEH going HD?
I just spotted this in an email newsletter from KQED:
"HD is coming to KQED Plus on XFINITY 710. Now see all your favorites in glorious high def, including the KQED Plus countdown to Downton Abbey beginning New Year's Eve."
So are they just going to feed an HD signal to Comcast, or will this also be OTA? I noticed on their website a reference to some "new equipment" going in at both transmitters a couple of weeks ago.
Patty

Hi,

 

OTA, I hope not, I suffered through the NCPB attempts to determine their current lineup was the best they can do. It was very painful as they must have assumed no one was attempting to watch. They really did AFAIK not try too many combinations. But they must have learned what they needed to as 9.x and 54.x were good as soon as the switch was made on Monday June 30th, 2008. They did add one more stream to 25.x later.

 

There has been a lot of posts by Red on: http://blogs.kqed.org/transmitterstatus/

 

Reading them I can see that they may be attempting making 54.1 16:9.

 

It may be just be an attempt to do 16:9 like 7.2 is, fine with me as "Motion" looks great.

 

Perhaps someone can comment on the bit rates 54.1 is currently using and 7.2 bit rates.

 

Another sale for Harmonic?

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/369015/san-francisco-ca-ota/7560#post_20406177

 

SHF

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by SFischer1 - 12/6/12 at 6:53pm
post #8978 of 10422
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Originally Posted by quain View Post

I'm using the Mohu Leaf also, in Mountain View. Getting all the major channels except for NBC. Can anyone tell me why that might be the case? It seems like the distance to the tower is around 30 miles, similar to CBS, ABC, etc?
Someone mentioned that NBC is VHF and Mohu is mostly UHF, is that the case? In that case, is there an antenna that someone can recommend that is more well rounded? Would it be worth it to try the Mohu Leaf Plus?
Thanks

VHF signals are affected by electrical interference. This can come from any device that uses electricity potentially. The Leaf does receive VHF signals LOS at 30 miles. The problem is locating the antenna in a location where it is able to do so. I suggest you try adding additional coax and moving the antenna away from the television, and trying different heights. Have everything but the television turned off. If you get KNTV, then begin turning things back on. Even light bulbs can cripple VHF signals. Good Luck.
post #8979 of 10422
I have not seen a solid vhf signal for 5 days now. Nbc for over two weeks. Abc has been gone for the last 5 days.
Makes me want to go up on the roof and tweak things around. But I have done that before and nothing helps. Sigh.
I sure hope this does not last much longer. Dumb weather.
Edited by iitywygms - 12/6/12 at 9:15pm
post #8980 of 10422
Quote:
Originally Posted by quain View Post

I'm using the Mohu Leaf also, in Mountain View. Getting all the major channels except for NBC. Can anyone tell me why that might be the case? It seems like the distance to the tower is around 30 miles, similar to CBS, ABC, etc?
Someone mentioned that NBC is VHF and Mohu is mostly UHF, is that the case? In that case, is there an antenna that someone can recommend that is more well rounded? Would it be worth it to try the Mohu Leaf Plus?
Thanks

Tv channels have different signal sizes .... With lower channels having the biggest size signals, and upper UHF channels with the smallest signals.
Indoor rabbit ear style antennas have adjustable rods to deal with this signal size variation. Outdoor antennas feature elements with different sizes to capture every channel.

The Muhu leaf is a fixed size.
You can expect excellent reception on the upper (smaller signal) channels 45 thru 51

A basic sample.....(without doing the math on the muhu leaf size and channel frequency)
.
10% less signal for UHF ch 14 thru 25
60% less signal for channel 11
70% less signal for channel 7
90% less signal for FM (Channel 6)
and so on.....
Edited by 888CALLFCC - 12/6/12 at 11:51pm
post #8981 of 10422
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Originally Posted by 888CALLFCC View Post

10% less signal for UHF ch 14 thru 25
60% less signal for channel 11
70% less signal for channel 7
90% less signal for FM (Channel 6)
and so on.....

With performance like that, then the Mohu Leaf must be marketed on it's quaint visual appeal only.
post #8982 of 10422
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Originally Posted by quain View Post

I'm using the Mohu Leaf also, in Mountain View. Getting all the major channels except for NBC. Can anyone tell me why that might be the case? It seems like the distance to the tower is around 30 miles, similar to CBS, ABC, etc?
Someone mentioned that NBC is VHF and Mohu is mostly UHF, is that the case? In that case, is there an antenna that someone can recommend that is more well rounded? Would it be worth it to try the Mohu Leaf Plus?
Thanks

The Mohu Leaf is advertised as UHF only and KNTV is high VHF so don't expect it'll receive high VHF. Here's one that claims it's for high VHF and UHF:

http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?mc=03&p=HDBLADE100&d=Solid-Signal-HDBLADE-Indoor-Digital-Flat-Indoor-TV-Antenna-(HDBLADE)&c=TV%20Antennas%20-%20Indoor%20Only&sku=610370580509

I know nothing about this antenna beyond what Solid Signal says about it.

High VHF is problematic indoors as it doesn't penetrate buildings very well. But high VHF has superior range with an outdoor antenna.

Chuck
Edited by Calaveras - 12/12/12 at 5:51pm
post #8983 of 10422
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Originally Posted by iitywygms View Post

I have not seen a solid vhf signal for 5 days now.

From here in SF, conditions, in general, have been pretty bad lately for bringing in the distant stations, with one exception, channel 50. I haven't seen either of the VHF stations from Walnut Grove lately, and the UHF stations have been below normal strength. Only KMAX 31 and KQCA 58 have been coming in reliably from up there. On the other hand, KEMO 50 has continued to come in with a better than average signal. KRCB 22 has been about normal strength.

Signals from the South Bay have stayed at about normal levels, although KAXT 1 has been up and down quite a bit.

Hang in there... hopefully conditions will improve for you.

Larry
SF
Edited by Larry Kenney - 12/7/12 at 3:35pm
post #8984 of 10422
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Originally Posted by wintertime View Post

Is KQEH going HD?
I just spotted this in an email newsletter from KQED:
"HD is coming to KQED Plus on XFINITY 710. Now see all your favorites in glorious high def, including the KQED Plus countdown to Downton Abbey beginning New Year's Eve."
So are they just going to feed an HD signal to Comcast, or will this also be OTA? I noticed on their website a reference to some "new equipment" going in at both transmitters a couple of weeks ago.
Patty

KQEH 54 (KQED Plus) is capable of transmitting an HD signal. Before KQED/KQEH made all the changes to their present program configuration, KQEH was transmitting in HD, so the equipment will not be a hold up for them adding HD to the station.

Also, KQED is upgrading their signal from 710 kW to 1000 kW. The change has been approved by the FCC, but I haven't noticed any change in signal strength yet.

Larry
SF
post #8985 of 10422
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Originally Posted by SFischer1 View Post

Perhaps someone can comment on the bit rates 54.1 is currently using and 7.2 bit rates.

It's impossible to give exact figures for these channels because their bit rates are constantly changing.

KGO 7 has allotted about 1.5 mB to 7.3 and let's 7.1 and 7.2 fight it out for the rest of the available bits. 7.1 seems to have priority, but if they're running a 4:3 commercial on 7.1, 7.2 will take the extra bits. On average, 7.1 is running between 7.5 to 10.5 Mb and 7.2 is running 5 to 10 Mb. While watching just a few minutes ago, 7.1 dropped to 7.5 Mb and 7.2 went up to 9.2 Mb, so there are times when 7.2 is using more bits than 7.1. Other times both channels are using about 8 Mb each.

KQEH 54 is constantly changing, but all five sub-channels are sharing about an equal allotment of bits. When I did the check a few minutes ago, the readings were averaging as follows:
54.1 2.69 mB
54.2 3.02 mB
54.3 5.91 mB
54.4 2.69 mB
54.5 2.95 mb

The two channels with the best quality in the Bay Area are KPIX 5 and KBCW 44. Both 5.1 and 44.1 hold a steady 17.5 mB reading at all times.

As for 4:3 vs 16.9... that has little or no affect on the usage of bits. KCSM 60.3 is 16:9 and is only using 2 mB. It's mostly text with little motion, so it doesn't need a lot.

If you're running a PC, you can download the TSReader program and watch all the action yourself. The basic program is free. The only disadvantage is that you have to close the program and reopen it to change from one channel to another. It doesn't have a provision to change channels once a channel is selected, while the TSReader Pro does and has other features as well.

Larry
SF
Edited by Larry Kenney - 12/7/12 at 3:39pm
post #8986 of 10422
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Originally Posted by Larry Kenney View Post


KQEH 54 (KQED Plus) is capable of transmitting an HD signal. Before KQED/KQEH made all the changes to their present program configuration, KQEH was transmitting in HD, so the equipment will not be a hold up for them adding HD to the station.
Also, KQED is upgrading their signal from 710 kW to 1000 kW. The change has been approved by the FCC, but I haven't noticed any change in signal strength yet.
Larry
SF

Hi,

 

Yes I remember KTEH in HD, but that was part of the pain.

 

If NCPB wants to drop channels on 54 they can do the identical combination that 9 has, one HD and two SD.

 

They might be considering dropping the SD repeat of 9.1 on 54.2 and 54.1 being repeated on 9.2. The two transmitters different reception patterns may be the reason they will remain.

 

Changing 54.1 to 16:9 IMHO is the best plan, for me at least as I will not have to crop so many programs using VLC media player. That would be great for many viewers.

 

Since 7.2 went to 16:9 I have been waiting for more stations to air two 16:9 streams, it just has not happened.

 

Stations adding more streams also has been less than I expected.

 

Lack of programming and waiting for the big crunch may be the reason.

 

 

I just realized that 42.4 with the name "KTNC-Br" may just be KTNC-Bars as in color bars.

 

Way in the past stations aired an analog test pattern and KRON I remember broadcasting one early in the days of HD.

 

I have on my wall a printout of a HD test pattern and on some HD a really amazing animated HD test loop.

 

Are the digital color bars with steady tone really that useful today?

 

SHF

post #8987 of 10422
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Originally Posted by SFischer1 View Post


Since 7.2 went to 16:9 I have been waiting for more stations to air two 16:9 streams, it just has not happened.

Stations adding more streams also has been less than I expected.

Can you receive KSBW? They run 1080i on 8.1 and 720p on 8.2. They both look good to me but I'd like someone else to take a look and give an opinion.

Chuck
post #8988 of 10422
Most of the "subchannel networks" aren't available in HD or widescreen SD, thus why you don't see many of them out there on subchannels in widescreen unless it's something locally done or a major network being carried on a subchannel (like KSBW).

The only exceptions are Live Well and TNN.

- Trip
post #8989 of 10422
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Originally Posted by Larry Kenney View Post

From here in SF, conditions, in general, have been pretty bad lately for bringing in the distant stations, with one exception, channel 50. I haven't seen either of the VHF stations from Walnut Grove lately, and the UHF stations have been below normal strength. Only KMAX 31 and KQCA 58 have been coming in reliably from up there. On the other hand, KEMO 50 has continued to come in with a better than average signal. KRCB 22 has been about normal strength.
Signals from the South Bay have stayed at about normal levels, although KAXT 1 has been up and down quite a bit.
Hang in there... hopefully conditions will improve for you.
Larry
SF

Conditions have been wild here again since Wednesday night. Thursday, all day, many Sutro stations were coming in, today none but KNTV and KKPX were strong. KAXT has been topping out at SNR 30 dB, the strongest I've ever seen it. I had to record my Thursday night CBS programs off of KION because KOVR was wiped out by co-channel KQET and KION was SNR 32 dB.

This is all fun for DXing but a pain when you just want to record a program.

Chuck
post #8990 of 10422
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Originally Posted by Calaveras View Post


Can you receive KSBW? They run 1080i on 8.1 and 720p on 8.2. They both look good to me but I'd like someone else to take a look and give an opinion.
Chuck

Hi,

 

NO, my metal roof ~ blocks KSBW, it is higher than the antenna . My antenna points at Sutro and KSBW is 180 degrees away. I am right in the middle.

 

I might have made the first post here suggesting that KSBW would do two 16:9 streams as KGO already had started.

 

KSBW's family consists of mainly ABC stations. KSBW being NBC made it a good choice to add ABC.

 

SHF

post #8991 of 10422
Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry Kenney View Post

KQEH 54 (KQED Plus) is capable of transmitting an HD signal. Before KQED/KQEH made all the changes to their present program configuration, KQEH was transmitting in HD, so the equipment will not be a hold up for them adding HD to the station.
Oh, interesting. I didn't think 54.1 had ever been in HD. Okay then, folks using OTA might want to keep an eye on that channel for a possible HD feed soon.
post #8992 of 10422
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Originally Posted by wintertime View Post

Oh, interesting. I didn't think 54.1 had ever been in HD. Okay then, folks using OTA might want to keep an eye on that channel for a possible HD feed soon.

Hi,

 

Do you still have that KQED e-mail? If so can you please zip it up and attach it.

 

Your mention of a KQED e-mail alerted me to the fact that I had not received any from KQED for a long time.

 

I was just dropped when "KQED HD Alert" ended. Or did I miss the last one saying it was ending.

 

AFAIK there is no way to look at KQED E-mail's online.

 

I now have signed up again.

 

Perhaps if someone is also reading the San Francisco cable forum they could ask for a report.

 

HD on cable yes, 16:9 on 54.1, we can only hope.

 

SHF

post #8993 of 10422
Leaf Observations:

I'm 29 miles from the towers with VHF noise margins of 53. Here's what a Zenith 901 gave me at 8:00pm last night. Aimed and located for rf40. This is an easterly aim.

KVIE (9) under the G of Good
KXTV (10) 70% sometimes dipping into the mid range
KMAX (21) very similar to KVIE, maybe a bit less flux
KOVR (25) 75%
KTFK (26) 66% with some dips into mid range
KCRA (35) 66% with some increases
KTXL (40) same as KCRA
KQCA (46) 66% with some mid range
KSPX (48) 70%

No A/V drops on any channel. This weather is good for set it and forget it.

Here's the Leaf in another room around midnight. Again aimed for rf 40 which is also east in this room.

KVIE 65%-62%
KXTV 68%-64%
KMAX 66%-65%
KOVR 74%-72%
KTFK 58% No audio and fractured video. No A/V locks.
KCRA 64%-0% Lots of A/V drops. Walking near the antenna a problem.
KTXL 73%-72%
KQCA 75%-73%
KSPX 68%-66% Some A/V drops.

6 out of 9 had no A/V drops. That's not bad. A north/south aim is correct for KCRA. Then, walking around the antenna doesn't matter.
post #8994 of 10422
Quote:
Do you still have that KQED e-mail? If so can you please zip it up and attach it.
I quoted the only portion of the email that was relevant to this forum.

Quote:
HD on cable yes, 16:9 on 54.1, we can only hope.
Well I sure hope not. If KQEH instituted a 16:9-only policy, they'd have to drop "Sherlock Holmes" and a lot of their other older shows that people still really like to watch.
post #8995 of 10422
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Originally Posted by deltaguy View Post

Leaf Observations:
I'm 29 miles from the towers

Here's the Leaf in another room around midnight. Again aimed for rf 40 which is also east in this room.
KCRA 64%-0% Lots of A/V drops. Walking near the antenna a problem.

I have tested alot of indoor antenna models. And guess what ? They all work the same. Leaf or no Leaf.
Some models I have tested .... And any noteworthy features
Terk tv 4................ (No longer Made)
Terk tv 5 ..............Bad for low-VHF & UHF, ok on High VHF
Terk tv 50 stick amplified.........Quality built in FM trap. Excellent Low-VHF, Channel 6 worked, Fair hi-VHF, Horrible UHF
Recoton Power Wave 600 Amplified ... (No longer made) .... Excellent Low-VHF, Quality low noise amp
GE Optima ... (No longer made) ......the best at Ghost killing with no adjustments.
Radio Shack Double Bow... (No longer made)......worked good ....no VHF at all.
Cornet .... C. Crane Company....... Average
Small Wonder Plug in ... "Whole house wiring as a tv antenna" (Recalled) ... Twin lead antenna for 300 ohm tv sets
Clearstream Micron..... Large plastic square with metal mesh.... Top heavy and tip overs easily... Same performance as the double bow above.
Zenith silver sensor...... Some ghost killing sharpness noted
Philips-Magnavox 45db amplified Walmart .... (Absolute Junk)... Noisy overloaded amplifier.... No signal on most channels.

And to make things fair, I brought indoors a full size UHF yagi to compare performance.
For the most part, I noticed the greatest performance variation on the Low-VHF band (That is mostly now not used for DTV anyways)
For UHF,.... the location was more important than the antenna model.
UHF was harder to get clear images (Multipath) indoors.
VHF was harder to get noise free signal.
post #8996 of 10422
Quote:
Originally Posted by 888CALLFCC View Post

I have tested alot of indoor antenna models. And guess what ? They all work the same. Leaf or no Leaf.

And to make things fair, I brought indoors a full size UHF yagi to compare performance.
For the most part, I noticed the greatest performance variation on the Low-VHF band (That is mostly now not used for DTV anyways)
For UHF,.... the location was more important than the antenna model.
UHF was harder to get clear images (Multipath) indoors.
VHF was harder to get noise free signal.

This exactly what I would expect. Indoor reception is dominated by noise, multipath and antenna position and less by actual antenna performance.

Chuck
post #8997 of 10422
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Originally Posted by SFischer1 View Post

Hi,

Do you still have that KQED e-mail? If so can you please zip it up and attach it.

Your mention of a KQED e-mail alerted me to the fact that I had not received any from KQED for a long time.

I was just dropped when "KQED HD Alert" ended. Or did I miss the last one saying it was ending.

AFAIK there is no way to look at KQED E-mail's online.

I now have signed up again.

Perhaps if someone is also reading the San Francisco cable forum they could ask for a report.

HD on cable yes, 16:9 on 54.1, we can only hope.

SHF
I am in walnut creek on comcast. . ch 54 is on ch 710 hd. has been on for several months.
milt
post #8998 of 10422
Quote:
Originally Posted by wintertime View Post


I quoted the only portion of the email that was relevant to this forum.
Well I sure hope not. If KQEH instituted a 16:9-only policy, they'd have to drop "Sherlock Holmes" and a lot of their other older shows that people still really like to watch.

Hi,

 

I was only saying, that shows that were shot in 16:9 be presented in 16:9. There are a lot of them on 54.1. They have no difficulty broadcasting 4:3 material on 9.1 and do it all the time. Thus no problem presenting 16:9 material as 16:9 and 4.3 material as 4:3. The reduced stream size takes about the same number of bits and is NOT HD. Just the aspect ratio is changed.

 

I just looked at 7.2 and for the short time I did it was 4:3, then 16:9 letterbox and pillarized, then a 16:9 program filling my screen. All three possibilities in two minutes.

 

 

Some new sets have the ability to crop a 16.9 picture shrunk to 4:3 back to 16:9. VLC allows me to crop the 16:9 to fill the screen which I do a lot of time.

 

The exception is KSCM (And others) that do this on a 16:9 HD marked stream and I have only one tool that can do the cropping, and it is slow. If a station declares a stream as HD, then it must remain in the minds of fools.

 

IMHO right from the beginning there was no need to letterbox and pillarize 16:9 programs to be sent as a second SD stream. The HD stream can be converted by the DTV or converter box.

 

The one exception, which is perhaps unnecessary is 7.2 (16:9) being duplicated on 7.3 (4:3) so that livewell could be carried on cable SD lineup.

 

KCSM perhaps does the letterbox and pillarizing of 16:9 programs to pay less.

 

 

All I am saying is that if the program was produced in 16:9, it should be presented as 16:9 filling the widescreens that so many of us have. As there is more 4:3 material available, I do expect to see 4:3 programs.

 

If there were any DTV or converter boxes for analog TV produced that could not handle 16:9 material displayed on a 4:3 screen, they were produced in violation of the law after the specified date.

 

SHF

post #8999 of 10422
Quote:
Originally Posted by milt9 View Post

I am in walnut creek on comcast. . ch 54 is on ch 710 hd. has been on for several months.
milt

Hi,

 

And 16:9 programs fill your 16:9 screen hopefully.

 

Comcast must have said to KQED, we will complete the change by  12/31/2013 but started earlier.

 

Do you have any tool to display the PSIP?

 

I see 54.1 reporting 704 x 480i (4:3)

 

7.2 reporting 704 x 480i (16:9) displaying 4:3

 

7.2 reporting 1280 x 720p displaying  (16:9)

 

7.2 reporting 1280 x 720p displaying (4:3)

 

So it appears that the x,y is not a good indicator if the aspect ratio is 16:9 or 4:3 on KGO 7.2.

 

Time for some TSReader work, but I do not have that installed yet.

After the 49ers won I said, something was wrong with that post. 

 

(Using MyHD.)

 

During the many breaks in SNF I attempted to catch KGO 7.2 displaying "7.2 reporting 704 x 480i (16:9) displaying 4:3".

 

I failed so while 16:9 and 16:9 LB and PI and 4:3 all were displayed the stream may be set to "1280 x 720p". I do not at this time know if I really saw "7.2 reporting 1280 x 720p".

 

 

SHF


Edited by SFischer1 - 12/9/12 at 8:44pm
post #9000 of 10422
Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry Kenney View Post

From here in SF, conditions, in general, have been pretty bad lately for bringing in the distant stations, with one exception, channel 50. I haven't seen either of the VHF stations from Walnut Grove lately, and the UHF stations have been below normal strength. Only KMAX 31 and KQCA 58 have been coming in reliably from up there. On the other hand, KEMO 50 has continued to come in with a better than average signal. KRCB 22 has been about normal strength.
Signals from the South Bay have stayed at about normal levels, although KAXT 1 has been up and down quite a bit.
Hang in there... hopefully conditions will improve for you.
Larry
SF

How are things now? I still have nothing. I am wondering if the storm a few weeks back mucked something up. I have been using ota for 3 years now and never have I been without vhf for this long.
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