Pseudo-Official 3805 Thread - Page 5

DLShres,
It sounds like you have a bad remote... I would return it for a replacement. My 3085 remote is working fine and I have had not problems with it, however, it does seem to be a potential problem. I think someone mentioned that it is very likely that it wasn't built by Denon, that would be my guess as well. Probably whatever company manufactures it is having some consistency problems which will almost certainly be sorted out very quickly as Denon begins to receive returns. (please note, this is only my opinion and has no real basis in fact).

Oops! DLShres, I just reread your post, I thought you had said the duracells had run out too. i wouldn't worry too much about the batteries that came with the reciever, they are typically cheap and might be very old. If the duracells last less than 6 months then I would suspect a problem. Sound to me like you got the low end of the crappy batteries typically supplied by manufacturers with electronic equipment.

I too, have found that my remote "eats" batteries. I'm on my third set of alkalines. I hope they have a recall of the remotes. I'm not happy about that. I love the receiver itself.

i'm curious if the remote backlight has different 'timing' settings. not that it should eat batteries that quickly, but the backlight being on longer will definitely wear them down more quickly.

I think something's wrong with those remotes. Even if you use the backlight a lot, the batteries should last months!

oh yeah...i agree. i am curious if the backlight timing is able to be set.

thearthurclone:

Yes, there is a program in the remote to control how long it will be lit each time after use!

Yes. The backlight timing can be programmed in my 3803's remote to last up to 20 seconds (5 is the default value).

But IMO if you need 20 seconds to find and hit the button you need (or the touschscreen in the 3805), you'd better turn the lights on

I use that remote for about an hour or two a day. I set it for 10 sec delay and medium lit (brightness). My only suspect is the battery came with remote must be old or weak and the one that I have replaced with Duracell was also not brand new. Now I have four brand new batteries replaced and will let you all know if it runs out quickly.

So i will return the one with a rattle that works fine, and pick up one without a rattle that doesn't work fine.

I am selling my rx-v2400 and waiting for the 3805. One of the things i hated about the yammy was the remote, so the new Denon remote was one of the big deals for me, but all this stuff about the new remotes is bumming me out. I hope i don't dislike it when it comes. I will let people know what i think after i get it.

Scott

I´m ordering a 3805 this monday from avland in the uk, and the mic is included. Can´t wait for it to ship to me in Iceland.

Interesting....that's been a tried and true remote for Yamaha, ever since the RX-V1. It has been praised for its ease of use and flexibility.

Questions for those with a 7.1 setup who have upgraded from the 3803 to the 3805?

To what degree is the change noticable to you?
Does the difference vary with sources or source material?

Thanks.

Dennis

I just returned home from tweeter and was discussing the pro/cons of 3805 v. 2400. The salesman at tweeter mentioned that the digital inputs on the 3805 are assignable and they are fixed on the 2400. Is this true?

No. The digital inputs/outputs (coaxial & optical) on the back panel are fully assignable. The one video aux digital optical input on the front panel isn't assignable. Both component video inputs are assignable. All the S-Video, Composite video, and analog audio input/outputs are fixed. Go to the bottom of page 10 in the link below for more info.

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/R...XV2400_lit.PDF

i think i already know the answer to this question but cant seem to convince myself entirely. anyway, what is more important for processing the digital signal, a dsp or a dac? and would one prefer 2 dsps or say 2 dacs per channel? what i am particularly interested in is for processing dolby digital, dts, circle surround, etc. NOT sound fields and dsp modes and NOT music although i would be curios about sacd or dvd-a processing... anyway i hope someone can reconfirm my thoughts.

The remote would probably be fine if i didn't watch films in the dark.

Scott

This is an issue for Europe. Apparently the dual banana plug standard is too close to the standard for 220 volt wall electric outlets (and therefore a big safety issue) in many parts of Europe, so you can't sell audio products there that conform to that standard. Since the 3805 is sold worldwide, I'm sure this was the issue when deciding the spacing for these plugs.

Thanks Sevenfeet

Anyway I have used single banana plug. It is not a big deal, just curious.

FYI, Crutchfield has the mic back in stock.

-MP

Could anyone comment on the "video-up conversion that converts composite and/or S-video sources to component video without compromising video quality". I am researching receivers and would like to know more about this feature.
Fred

I'm looking into this. I've noticed some tearing in some of the images I've seen in at least one animated show. I'm not sure if this is an artifact from the VSM processing of my television, or the Denon's upscaling, but I'll find out tonight or tomorrow.

Otherwise the quality seemed nice.

The Denon doesn't really "upscale", just converts the output format. GIGO can be one problem but VCR's converted from composite to component can be another. The manual says that if this problem occurs you need a VCR with time base correction or a separate stand alone unit between the two.

Mort

VSM is evil Sevenfeet. Unless it requires going into the back of the tv with a soldering iron you should disable it.

Would the 3805 be able to reliably drive 4 Thiel CS2s? I've been offered a fairly stellar deal on them and an old Pioneer M-65 amp, but the amp is really only a single channel (even though it has 3 speaker outputs). The Thiels would pretty much break my bank for some time, so getting a different amp would be out of the question. The Thiels are 6ohm 40-250 watt speakers. I'm not even sure what I would do for my surrounds and center at that point. I've got all Fluance right now. It's one of those deals you hate to pass up, but if it's going to be a bust on my system I'd rather save the money.

Thanks,
MP

Crutchfield is giving $10.00 off if you use a VISA card. I found this deal at ultimatecoupons.com. Ordered the Denon mic for $10.00 less and added 5.00 to send fedex overnite. Regular shipping is free.

The deal is good to 6/4 I think.

I'll weigh in here, as I purchased Denon's 3803 in February and upgraded to the 3805 due to the poor 2-channel audio performance of the 3803. I'm not used to anything enormously esoteric: I have Martin Logan Aerius speakers that were "fed" by a modified Dynaco ST70 (with the Van Alstine Audio board) and an Audible Illusions Modulus 3A preamp. Bass isn't a strong point with the setup but soundstage and the magic midrange made for a combo hard to beat without spending huge amounts of money.

That said, the 3803 completely disappointed me. On 2-channel audio it made my stereo sound like a cheap set of speakers. There wasn't any soundstage, delicacy or even the slightest hint of a live performance going on in front of me. Due to the fixed AC cord, I couldn't use my high-grade IEC-based cords.

The 3805 allows me to use my choice of power cord. I haven't tried the cord they provided, but with my "standard" installed I am extremely impressed with the results this AVR produces. The soundstage doesn't have extreme depth, but my speakers "disappear" again and there is still some depth to the stage... though it may have fewer layers than I've heard before. I've had several neophyte friends listen to the system, and each of them (with completely untrained ears) notes that the sound doesn't come from the speakers, but from the space in front of their listening position. This, of course, applies when they're listening from the sweet spot.

If you're anywhere near Orange County, CA, and would care to hear it, let me know.

Mike

I'm driving a set of Martin Logan Aerius electrostatic hybrid speakers with it quite effectively, and if I recall correctly they spec at either 2 or 4 ohms. Based on that, I can't imagine the 3805 will have any problem with the 6 ohm Thiels.

Mike