Pseudo-Official 3805 Thread - Page 12

Why not get an MX-800 and skip the repeater?

I think I might, I'll investigate that option right now

DVD-A/SACD Cable: http://www.axiomaudio.com/dvdaudio.html , I've got one coming for my Denon pair (receiver/dvd player...

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EDIT: I was checking prices... $350 for the MX700, $500 for the MX800... are these remotes really worth it? Or should I just try and fumble along with the remote in the 3805?

$350 for MX-700, is probably just as good or a better value. As the $140-$145 is for those cables. But $500 for a MX-800 may not be, especially if you don't need the RF repeater feature of it. Because that is about the only thing it has, that the MX-700 does not.

i've been using a harmony sst-659 with my 3805. works brilliantly

The 3805 remote is lousy. It doesn't respond correctly all the time. Not well thought out IMO. In the same token, i've never seen a remote from Denon that wasn't junk. Some good ideas with this one but, a swing & a miss!

Ah, the old adage "it's a poor craftsman that blames his tools" Chip E Agreed that the Denon remote is not the most intuative, but mine functions quite well with the six sources I'm working with....even the call functions. I could be a little biased as my wife has her eyes on the Pronto 7000 and I'm trying to get her to "appreciate" the Denon remote (which will free funds for more important toys)

Mort

Daphoid,

Buy a cheap radioshack or one-for-all universal, a JP-1 cable, and learn how to use the free JP-1 software. There is not much you can't do with a JP-1 enabled remote.

here's a link to get you started learning about JP-1 is you are interested

http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/

definitely saved me some cash

John

The cheap remotes that have a JP1 interface, and the JP-1 software is not really that great. Sure it more or less lets you "hack" a remote, and add a few things that it might not normally do or have, if that's what you really are interested in doing. But that's about all it does. But you are still left with a cheap remote, where often only the person who "hacked" it, is the only one who can use it with ease. No way does it end up as user friendly to use, as something like a MX-500 MX-700/800 or a Pronto does.

I have a Radio Shack remote and a JP1 cable. The very basic JP1 software out there is OK and my remote is functional for me, but the more in depth software is damn near impossible to use and when you go into the forums to ask questions you are attacked as a newbie and told to go away and read the instructions, which are about the size of War & Peace.

the Denon 3805's remote is allright. Its nothing like a $300 remote.
I enjoy the remote alot, but if i had $300 i would buy a new one.
I want to be able to controll my RPTV's menu's and other devices menu's.
The Denon's remote doesn't do that stuff.

What if you have a Mitsubishi TV and you need to use NetCommand, you will need a expensive custom remote. That the Denon does not have.

Yeah, the advanced JP-1 stuff is not easy to figure out. I mainly just use it for quickly programming macros and for backing up my remote. I have a tendency to screw with the remote and mess it up, so it's nice to have a version of my remote saved with the JP-1 software that I can restore quickly.

Johnla, I'm not into hacking or making my remote do weird things. I just want one remote that controls my HT in a logical and user friendly way. I have that in this remote:

http://www.ofausa.com/remote.php?type=URC%208910

I just don't have a budget of $350 for a remote. I wouldn't call my remote cheap, perhaps a good value, but not cheap. I guess my question would be what benefits would I gain by buying a $350 remote, but that question is for another thread.

Anyway, I was just trying to suggest to Daphoid that there are good and relatively inexpensive alternatives out there if you are unhappy with the Denon remote and don't have a large budget to spend on a remote.

John

Yeah, the advanced JP-1 stuff is not easy to figure out. I mainly just use it for quickly programming macros and for backing up my remote. I have a tendency to screw with the remote and mess it up, so it's nice to have a version of my remote saved with the JP-1 software that I can restore quickly.

Johnla, I'm not into hacking or making my remote do weird things. I just want one remote that controls my HT in a logical and user friendly way. I have that in this remote:

http://www.ofausa.com/remote.php?type=URC%208910

I just don't have a budget of $350 for a remote. I wouldn't call my remote cheap, perhaps a good value, but not cheap. I guess my question would be what benefits would I gain by buying a $350 remote, but that question is for another thread.

Anyway, I was just trying to suggest to Daphoid that there are good and relatively inexpensive alternatives out there if you are unhappy with the Denon remote and don't have a large budget to spend on a remote.

John

but take in consideration that these suggestions are coming from someone that can't even use a forum correctly.

Sorry about the double post, my bad

Can someone please tell me if power is switched off to the amp would you loose your settings! or are they stored under battery support!
cheers laurie

I dunno Young C, I've got the Denon remote able to access all of my plasma displays menus (color adjustments, etc) and it was pretty easy to learn in all my cable box functions as well (menus, page flips, etc) That my DVD, CD and phono are all Denon products made controlling all their functions a non-issue. I'll bet if you play with it a little you'll find that you can control and access all your TV's functions pretty well.

Jason, you outa take a stab at the macros...way cool. My wife can push one button to play a dvd....it turns on the amp, switches it to the proper setting, turns on the TV and switches it to the proper input, turns on the dvd player so all she has to do is plop in the disk and hit play on the remote (it wouldn't do those last two functions but I tried)

Mort

PJ's? Your pajamas have a remote? Haven't delved that far as the need hasn't presented itself, but I think what you're looking to do can be accomplished with the "punch though" options.......but not sure.

As to renaming the inputs, I believe the closest you'll be able to come is through assignment (if I follow you correctly)

By buying all three new Denon pieces I guess I kinda cheated the learning curve....and that was the plan.

Mort

Don't think so JC. Looked over my unit last night and refreshed my mostly memorized take on the manual, and it's a "feature"....same with my Denon 380 CD player. It doesn't appear that it can be disabled at the source or destination at least not through any yes/no or on/off buttons. Is your problem CD an HDCD disk? I looked, but don't believe I've ever had one.

Mort

My 3805's remote can control a Mitsubish's NetCommand Device switching?

After owning the 3805 for a couple of weeks now, I can say that the auto-eq is fantastic. The sound of this receiver blows away my my 3802. I could not imagine owning a receiver without the parametric equalization feature.
I use my MX-500 remote to control the receiver.

Can MX-500 be programmed to every function on 3805's remote (including setups, etc.)? In other words, can 3805's remote be totally replaced by MX-500? I am considering buying MX-500 - that's why curious. Thank you.

I am using a MX-500 and yes it can learn any function the 3805 remote can do. The MX-500 is very flexible.

can anyone tell me about bass managemnt for analog sources, if it has the feature???
ive read till page 6, and pages 11 and 12, but havent found anything yet.
sorry if it has been discussed.
BM for 5.1 inputs means that a guy can atleast get started with hi rez audio, using cheap universal players, atleast until a denon 2200 class player, with denonlink hits the market, few months [or a year down the line]
thanks

Like many (most?) receivers, no bass management for the multichannel external inputs. Denon Link would avoid having to rely on bass management in the source player.

However, I do believe that the standard stereo analog inputs are by default passed through the digital circuitry and therefore would be subjected to bass management, unless using the Pure Direct mode.

The 3805 has 7.1 multichannel inputs (i.e. 8 channels), as opposed to the more common 5.1.

Ben

Today I just got a chance over lunch to hookup my cheap toshiba sd4800 dvd audio capable dvd player and tried it with a metallica dvd-audio disc. I was messing with the settings under the enter button on the unit with the sub (SW) option and it makes a big difference. I don't know what normal bass mgt is but this has big effects.