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The trick works on my cisco 4642. None if the channels have any programming yet.

chdwil,

Is that a DVR or a non-DVR?

Non dvr.

Nice!

Thanks chdwil! That's the box I'll be requesting.

Hopefully, the Team HD picture will be better than the one on Team 1 HD last year.

The delayed premiums.

I'm getting a Box upgrade for those HD Sports Package channels they are adding on the 30th and wanted to know if "The Trick" works on one of the boxes that I can switch too for those Sports package channels.

On another note, today could be the day we find out about NFL Network. Momentum doesn't seem to be there but you never know. However, I do believe this is d-Day for you. It would be a shame not to have you on this thread.

Last night, I sent the following email directly to Glenn Britt (TWC CEO) and David Rone (TWC VP Sports programming):

"Gentlemen:

I represent thousands of TWC customers who are frustrated with the lack of an agreement for the NFL Network (and Red Zone). For weeks, we have been told that TWC and the NFL are in negotiations. While this has been promising, we are left today (at the start of the NFL season) with no agreement and no news on the status of negotiations. One can only assume that if these are not added by Sunday (when the NFL is offering a free preview of Red Zone), that it will not happen again this year.

In past years, TWC has been one of several cable companies who could not reach an agreement. Today, TWC (and Brighthouse Networks by proxy) and Cablevision are the only providers in the top 10 that has not been able to get this done. This fact is widely known by current customers and the media.

Please provide (either directly with a reply) or through a statement prior to Sunday, Sept. 11one of the following:

1. TWC has reached an agreement with the NFL (for the NFL Network and Red Zone).
2. TWC cannot and will not reach an agreement with the NFL.

I, and many others, are watching closely. While we applaud your efforts recently on our behalf to bring better services (iPad app, Remote DVR, ESPN on multi-platforms)we expect you to provide these popular channels and believe that the NFL is asking market value for them (as evidenced by having agreements with virtually every other provider).

If an agreement is not reached, you can expect many subscribers to drop cable, Internet, and/or digital phone services not long thereafter. I will be one of them. I hope not to be, as I would prefer to support a company that has a local presence here in NC.

I anxiously awaiting your decision. Thanks."

No reply. Surprised?

Toad,

That's a very good E-Mail.

Give them a day or two to reply.

My hope is a deal will be done and we have to remain hopeful.

At the very least, it would be great to at least have closure on the matter for this year.

I'm with you. More than anything-- that's what I want. Closure. While I'd prefer not to go to satellite (had a bad experience with Dish Network a couple of years ago)-- I can and will drop them if TWC continues to ignore customer requests.

On this particular issue ... in the past, TWC had ammunition-- with other cable companies singing the tune about placement (sports tier only) and the NFL asking price. This year, that argument is ridiculous, since all others (except for the totally inept Cablevision) have been able to get an agreement with the NFL. To me, there is just no excuse to not add these channels. If TWC is digging in over Sunday Ticket, then this never did (and never will) have any chance of happening. Sooner or later, I suppose we'll find out.

I'm with you guys! I just want to know either way. I have toyed with the idea of getting Sat but I think about all the convenience I have with BH and not having to wait weeks if I have an issue. It would really either have to be an insane deal or BH would really have had to mess up for me to jump ship. I can live without NFLN but either way we deserve to know.

And I hope they give it to us.

As of right now, here are the only things I really want from Bright House

NFL Network
NFL RedZone
Weather Channel HD


The rest of the stuff I want is minor until Chiller, Cloo and Current go HD.

If they pulled off NFL Network, it would be huge and would get a ton of new Sports pass people for that RedZone channel.

I'll be ticked if no deal is done but I'll stay. Just give us closure.

If a deal is done, Chris Berry said he would come by and post channel numbers.

Let's hope we get that post.

I found this press release.

http://brighthouse.com/central-florida/about/8736.htm

While I suspected NY1 was temporary for the 9/11 memorial coverage as it has popped up on some TWC systems, it very well might be permanent for us.

I watched it a little last night and it's digital widescreen. CFN13 and BN9 were modeled after it but I feel both are better.

Still, it's nice for people from New York to have and when my mom about it this morning, she was thrilled.

Just saw it on the Sentinel and have updated the chart.

I'll probably re-post it when those Sports Package HD channels and the June 29 update is finally added. Hopefully, all of that by the end of the month.

Still waiting for word on NFL Network. I'm going to take a nap and see if something breaks later.

Do you know IF and when the NFL deal is done it will be included in the price of the current HD tier or will it require additional fees?

We have no idea and I would imagine they will wait until the deal is done before we know more. Hopefully here in a couple days we'll get some news either way.

Something else from Milwaukee. It's pretty much the same quote as yesterday but it looks more optimistic.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/129512898.html

The league was still working to increase distribution of the NFL Network on major cable carriers. Without mentioning Time Warner Cable by name, Goodell said he was "comfortable" that negotiators would reach agreement with cable carriers.

While I expected something by tonight, it could still go down to the wire on Sunday Morning.

It isn't over yet.

Saturday morning and nothing new.

My hope is news on a deal or why one was not done is released within the next 29 hours.

It is very frustrating.

It's extremely frustrating.

If it happens, it will be like Tru TV HD did out of the blue. I'm just hoping we hear something one way or another.

Ditto. Assuming this is dead at this point-- I now am frustrated with both sides for not giving us the courtesy of a press release. Hell, it doesn't take a lot of work to just dust off the ones from years past ... and just change the dates.

Was anyone aware that RTV would switch to ANT? I just noticed it. I thought channel 6 was going to carry the ANT channel.

Toad: It's possible they are talking into the night although it doesn't feel good right now. We shall see but your prediction of no release from either side might be correct.

Mark1_M: They announced it suddenly a week ago.

Not sure what happened as it was rumored they were going to get a Subchannel. Maybe they pick up RTV.

Remember that NFLN doesn't air any actual games until Week 9 or 10, so there's plenty of time to come to a deal.

With that said, TWC/BHN will continue to wait on it.

Could NFL Network/TWC/BHN be negotiating right up until November, when the regular NFL Network games begin? That could happen as well. This could come to a yes or no right down to the hour.

Jack

Don't think so. The key is Red Zone. That's the way providers recoup the cost of NFLN (by placing RZ in the sports tier, and NFLN in the digitial tier). If this was going to happen, it would definitely be today-- since RZ is on a free preview. If they were going to do a deal (and they were smart)-- they'd provide a taste of Red Zone (which everyone loves) on this free preview weekend-- and then people would subscribe to the sports tier next week.

Afraid to say it-- but, I think this is dead. Just a matter of if/when each side trashes the other in a press release. Or, they just ignore the whole issue.

It's possible they will have talks during the season but like Toad says, RedZone is the real prize.

They would definitely get a jump in Sports Pass Subscribers and that's better than The Network itself.

If our team is out of market, we get to see all of their scores LIVE.

While it could still pop up before kickoff, things get dimmer by the hour. Then again, it's always possible a Tru TV HD is pulled.

Either way, we deserve closure and a reason if a deal is not done.

The difference was that TWC had a deal in place for TruTV. It was just a matter of putting it up on the system.

Here, we have no deal and both sides find it un-worthy of even acknowledging.

Toad,

That is true.

I guess I'm trying to be too hopeful.

Goodall really got our hopes up and we better get official word from both sides either way.

Yep, both sides are just waiting to react now. My hunch is that both the NFL and TWC both consider this non-news and as such will not even bother to comment.

Both Goodell (for raising hopes in the press) and TWC (for stringing us along, with false hopes about "negotiations") are culpable.