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post #1291 of 18596
How strange. I will write this one down for the future. Thanks for the link.
post #1292 of 18596
Well folks the BHN rep brought me my nice new shiny 8300HD PVR on Saturday!

It rocks. If you had any reservations about it go get it. The installer did NOT bring a DVI/HDMI adaptor like I had requested. So I picked one up at Best Buy for $29 - works like a charm.

This new PVR works like a charm. Menus and channel changes are much much faster. The new search by Title / Keyword to progam shows is infinitely better than the previous system. Picture quality is perfect on my 36" Sony 4:3 HDTV. Goes to 1080i for the HD channels with black letterboxing (perfect) and switches automatically to 480p for all other channels (woohoo!).

It was well worth the wait.
post #1293 of 18596
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Originally posted by Barry928
Of course! Switch the scrolling white line selector to OFF.

Thank you.
post #1294 of 18596
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Originally posted by Barry928
If you see the white line on 2 different stb's with 2 different cables on 2 different inputs and you still see it moving when you pause the dvr then logic says it is your display having a problem with 1080i signals. The only other thing I can think of is maybe a ground loop but that would be visible on all the scan rates.

One other thing comes to mind (since it happened both on the Pace and the SA in 1080i mode) is that the vertical size is set too small or the vertical hold is set too far down. Some screens (like mine with the card) can adjust both verticals. if it it set wrongly you can see the the "information" lines which may appear to be a white line or snow (garbage in computerese). I won't go into full tech mode here, but there is a portion of the signal that is not meant to be viewed and that may be what he is seeing.
post #1295 of 18596
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Originally posted by RichUF
I was watching a recorded HD show from SA8300 DVR while recording a second HD show. Got numerous picture freezes, blocks, and blank screens. Happened about a half dozen times. First time I've noticed this...not sure if first time I've been recording and accessing HD simultaneously.

Anyone else experience this? It the amount of info in 2 HD things just too taxing for the machine, or is it something else? Is there some kind of memory that may be inadequate?

Not a biggie, just a bit annoying after about the third time.

we seem to be getting a lot of pixel problems here from Rogers on the 8300HD i have attached two picture taken from a recording of eneterprise friday
post #1296 of 18596
A little more info...this problem is only on the channels below 100. if I disable the 480i & 480p outputs on the STB I can record and/or pause live, but the playback is unwatchable. Lots of skips & blocks. BHN is coming out Friday to look at it.
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Got the 8300hd installed today. So far only one issue. The pause live TV feature works perfectly on the HD tier of channels, but not on the analog. The screen goes grey (though the time bar appears with the "pause" symbol) and the only way to clear it is to change the channel. I'm using component inputs to a Hitachi RP set. Recording a program & playing it back works fine, though when I end the playback I have the grey screen and again have to change channels to clear it. Also does the same thing using an S-video input.
post #1297 of 18596
I noticed that if I set the SA8300HD to 720p (including all the other resolutions), I cannot see the Fox HD channel (I can hear it just fine though). All the other channels work fine. As soon as I remove the 720p option, Fox works just fine. Has anyone else seen this issue?
post #1298 of 18596
Barry - thanks for setting up the very informative meeting Saturday. Phil was a great host and his presentation was excellent. It's nice to listen to someone who really knows his "stuff." It's amazing to see what technology is really out there - even if I can't afford most of it. Your suggestion about a meeting on "audio" hopefully will happen in the near future. Keep up the good work. Don S.
post #1299 of 18596
Don,

It was my pleasure to arrange the CFHDS meeting at TAW. My thanks to Phil and Russ who generously gave up most of their Saturday to educate our group. We are going to do an audio meeting next in late March. It will be designed to give members "ear training" so we can all learn what to listen for when evaluating speakers and audio hardware. The February meeting conflicts with the EH Expo which is running at the Orlando Convention Center February 24-26.

http://www.ehexpo.com/

To register for a free floor pass enter "iVITE" as the priority code.
post #1300 of 18596
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Originally posted by Maya68
I noticed that if I set the SA8300HD to 720p (including all the other resolutions), I cannot see the Fox HD channel (I can hear it just fine though). All the other channels work fine. As soon as I remove the 720p option, Fox works just fine. Has anyone else seen this issue?

Yes. I had the same problem with WFTV-DT (who also uses 720p) on my Panasonic RPTV, which will only accept 1080i or 540p on the HDMI input, or so they say. You need to have the 8300 convert the 720p to 1080i.
post #1301 of 18596
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Originally posted by the64gto
I got a call yesterday about scheduling my HD DVR, the girl @ BH told me that I could eigher pick up a unit myself or schedule a tech to come to the house. If a tech came to the house, they would also bring cables for hook up. If I picked the unit up myself, it did not include cables. Has anybody got an opinion on the BH cables or should I look to buy my own. I would think the cable would be more than $20?? I now have a normal DVR, it fits into my cabinet which is 17" wide, is the new HD DVR the same width???

The component and coax cables should be included when you pick up the HD box at the local office. I picked up an SA 8300 last week and an SA 3250 the week before and the cables were included.

I'm not sure what quality the cable are, but at least you get some.
post #1302 of 18596
Speaking of cables to connect the SA8300, is there a difference between digital audio RCA cable and a very good quality (Monster) audio and/or video RCA cable? Does a digital coax allow higher bandwith, or is it a marketing tool to get more money out of you? I have previously used toslink optical audio cables (can you call them cables or should it be interconnects) and have little experience with digital coax.
post #1303 of 18596
Thanks for the response Gilley, when I talked to the BH girl, I understood that she was talking about either a DVI or an HDMI cable and that was dependent on your HDTV. Not being that knowledgable about the interfaces yet, I noticed that some members of this form were looking for an adapter to go from one to the other. I think???? that an HDMI to HDMI cable would be the easiest and best if your HDTV supported that interface.
post #1304 of 18596
She was right about the DVI and HDMI cables. They are not given out my BHN. I misunderstood your question. a DVI or HDMI cable would be the best picture, but I have had trouble with the HDCP "format not supported" error message, so I just use component for cable and DVI for the DVD player.

I just need some direction with the digital audio cable.
post #1305 of 18596
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Originally posted by the64gto
I think???? that an HDMI to HDMI cable would be the easiest and best if your HDTV supported that interface.

There is a known issue right now when using an HDMI to HDMI connection. If your display does not support 5.1 audio decoding then the 8300 switches to 2.0 audio on both the coaxial and optical audio outputs.

BHN, SA and Pioneer are working on the problem.
post #1306 of 18596
I"m on with Brighthouse right now and they're telling me that I CANNOT go to the Brighthouse location and swap boxes, and there IS a 20 dollar charge. WTF?
post #1307 of 18596
I, among others, have gone to the BHN office to get the HD DVR. I didn't even swap boxes. I went and added one to my account. There is no charge to pick up a box.
post #1308 of 18596
Did the thread blow up? Can't believe nobody posted for 24 hours.

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I"m on with Brighthouse right now and they're telling me that I CANNOT go to the Brighthouse location and swap boxes, and there IS a 20 dollar charge. WTF?

I had a buddy a work who called and was told the same thing. Then he called again and got a different CSR and was told there was no charge. Incidently you don't have to go to your closest office.
post #1309 of 18596
Hello Orlando,

Im from the Omaha NE thread. Looks like we have the same problem. Emmis owns one of your stations (WKCF) in the area and they will not let them put there HD Channel on Cable as they want Money for a Free over the air channel.

Please help and Email Emmis and let them know what you think.

===============Pasted from the thread==============

Looks like over in the Omaha-Lincoln Ne Thread the Cox Cable Emmis issue is still alive.

Emmis pulled there CBS HD from Cox cable one year again demanding money for the free over the air channel.


Here is the thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/show...&pagenumber=130


Here is some info on who to Email- pated from the thread

Here are the EMAIL Addresses for the Top VPs at Emmis Corp (the ones who own KM3 and the ones who made them pull the HD).

Cut and Past Comma delimited:

rmena@emmis.com,desayian@emmis.com,kate@emmis.com,staffingdepartment@emmis. com,ir@emmis.com,wzberger@emmis.com,rcummings@emmis.com

(below is a line by line list)

Please Email them weekly and ask for the free HD channel to be put back on.



KM3 and Emmis one year ago said they pulled there HD Feed because cox was charging for it and making money on it.

Things have changed in the last year.

Now all cable systems in a Emmis area offer the Local HD channels FREE unscrambled via free QAM channels.

This means the Emmis reasoning is no longer valid. They have no reason to demand money for a FREE OVER THE AIR HD Signal.

After all the Government, our tax money gave them the channel. We should be able to watch it free over the air and free on cable.

It is time for Emmis to add KM3 HD back to Cox.



rmena@emmis.com
desayian@emmis.com
kate@emmis.com
staffingdepartment@emmis.com
ir@emmis.com
wzberger@emmis.com
rcummings@emmis.com
post #1310 of 18596
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Now all cable systems in a Emmis area offer the Local HD channels FREE unscrambled via free QAM channels.

I dream of this. Makes perfect sense to me. I posted about this a long time ago. I want to pay for basic cable and get the networks in HD (have built-in HD tuner). I DESPISE having to pay for digital cable when all I really want is HD networks (yes, I realize that I can get them OTA, but that's not the point).

Doesn't much matter any more b/c my wife is in love with the new DVR, so I would still have to have the digital cable package.
post #1311 of 18596
Got my HDMI->DVI cable yesterday. Picture seems brighter than with component on the 8300. Initially I noticed picture looked darker when switching to the 8300 (someone mentioned 'crushing'). Not sure I notice that it's "better" just different. Probably not as much of a benefit for CRT.

No apparent issues when using this cable w/ my Hitachi RPCRT.
post #1312 of 18596
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Originally posted by ScottChez
Hello Orlando,

Im from the Omaha NE thread. Looks like we have the same problem. Emmis owns one of your stations (WKCF) in the area and they will not let them put there HD Channel on Cable as they want Money for a Free over the air channel.


What is he talking about? WKCF HD is own Brighthouse at least according to there website (BHN has not been installed yet for me).
post #1313 of 18596
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Originally posted by rolltide1017
What is he talking about? WKCF HD is own Brighthouse at least according to there website (BHN has not been installed yet for me).

WKCF-DT is on Bright House, but apparently isn't carried by Comcast and Adelphia in the Orlando area.

Michael
post #1314 of 18596
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Originally posted by RichUF
...No apparent issues when using this cable w/ my Hitachi RPCRT.

sorry for quoting myself, buy I may have spoken too soon.

Barry928, if my Hitachi TV can output 5.1, does that mean it "supports 5.1 encoding", and thus I shouldn't have an issue with this glitch that you posted?

I'm doing HDMI->DVI. Can't test right now as audio system is down.
post #1315 of 18596
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Originally posted by RichUF
sorry for quoting myself, buy I may have spoken too soon.

Barry928, if my Hitachi TV can output 5.1, does that mean it "supports 5.1 encoding", and thus I shouldn't have an issue with this glitch that you posted?

I'm doing HDMI->DVI. Can't test right now as audio system is down.

AFAIK only displays using the HDMI to HDMI path have the problem. HDMI to DVI should not have a problem. If the tuner built in to your display can decode 5.1 then even if you were using an all HDMI path you would still not have a problem.

It is pretty simple to test. Tune to a known 5.1 channel like WFTV-DT and look at your audio display to see if it detects 5.1. If it says 2.0 then the 8300 is limiting the digital audio to 2.0 only. If you unplug the HDMI to your display and the audio switches back to 5.1 you have confirmed the problem.
post #1316 of 18596
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Originally posted by FlasHBurN
Maybe I am doing something wrong on my 4:3 TV. If I try the # key and change modes it will indeed zoom or stretch, but it only does it inside of the 16:9 screen, so if I am watching a 4:3 show, it cuts off the top and bottom, instead of just removing the top/bottom black bars.

Anyone have any ideas? If I record say a 4:3 show on an HDTV channel I can't seem to get the right setting to let it display fullscreen. If I select any of the zoom settings it just zooms in letterbox, which still leaves bars on the top and bottom of my 4:3 display.
post #1317 of 18596
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Originally posted by rolltide1017
What is he talking about? WKCF HD is on Brighthouse at least according to there website (BHN has not been installed yet for me).

What he is talking about is the future for the Central Florida market. Emmis will insist on payment from the cable companies for their digital channel. The only thing preventing our market from the conflict is the contract currently in place. When the contract expires you can expect WKCF-DT to go off the BHN cable system because Emmis will demand payment and BHN will refuse.

Scott from Omaha lives in a market where this has already happened and he cannot receive CBS in HD on cable because Emmis has pulled the channel seeking payment. This is a difficult issue because cable charges us for the HD broadcast channels and the broadcasters want some of that money.
post #1318 of 18596
Well that just sucks! All this fighting and bickering has HD by the throat. It will never take off with the masses if greedy companies don't let the content grow. It seems that half of the industry is pulling for HD but the other half is pushing against it and resisting change. Unfortunately it is us the end users who are getting screwed. The only good thing for us is that WKCF is WB18 and nothing of any value comes on that station IMHO.

Chris
post #1319 of 18596
Unfortunately, the sale of Voom (and most likely Voom's demise) is also an indication that the market isn't ready for HD yet.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but Brighthouse does not charge us for the local broadcast HD channels.
post #1320 of 18596
BHN does not charge you for the local HD channels as a line item but you do have to buy digital cable to receive the channels. I am not taking a side in this issue, only reporting the conflict.
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