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Originally Posted by HDOrlando View Post

Kevin,
This also officially confirms the new deal for BBC America. This was expected given how it's now on basic but good to know it's a done deal.
That's one more that will likely be off the month to month deal. May Starz/Encore get done soon and predict it will happen by the end of the 1st quarter of 2013.

I was told that we may lose Style, E! , IFC, and We come january 1st! according to a memo a TWC rep got that I was talking to about the DTA's so I really don't think they will be dropped because there will a lot of angry women saying where are my channels wink.gif

HDOrlando do you really think TWC might drop these channels that don't cost near as much as they should for them to be too expensive?
Edited by kevin120 - 12/14/12 at 7:11pm
post #15842 of 18581
Kevin,

Those could have a drop dead date or just a listing of some of the newer channels on month to month deals. Even if they did, a dispute would not last long on E! and Style because of E!

However, since AMC is not a part of the equation, WE and IFC might not have a leg to stand on. I never watch WE and hardly watch IFC. It's possible they could get yanked and I would not budge on either unless AMC was in the equation. Both are definitely channels where the heard could be thinned. The thing that can keep them both alive is AMC.

I wish those Starz/Encore channels would have a drop dead date so we can get more HD and that long list can be trimmed.
post #15843 of 18581
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Originally Posted by HDOrlando View Post

Kevin,
Those could have a drop dead date or just a listing of some of the newer channels on month to month deals. Even if they did, a dispute would not last long on E! and Style because of E!
However, since AMC is not a part of the equation, WE and IFC might not have a leg to stand on. I never watch WE and hardly watch IFC. It's possible they could get yanked and I would not budge on either unless AMC was in the equation. Both are definitely channels where the heard could be thinned. The thing that can keep them both alive is AMC.
I wish those Starz/Encore channels would have a drop dead date so we can get more HD and that long list can be trimmed.

the real solution would be for all cable networks to start reairing stuff from the 90s instead of letting it go waste and there would be more variety on all of the channels!
post #15844 of 18581
http://www.kansascity.com/classified-ads/ad/2115608#storylink=misearch Only things coming maybe to Sports Pass and free Showtime Preview and so on.
post #15845 of 18581
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Originally Posted by mgsports View Post

http://www.kansascity.com/:eek:classified-ads/ad/2115608#storylink=misearch Only things coming maybe to Sports Pass and free Showtime Preview and so on.

please post this in the Kansas city thread not here or say that this pertains to brighthouse as TWC has new channels that might come to bright house.. I give HDOrlando the scoop on which channels are new to TWC/Bright house.
post #15846 of 18581
Kevin,

mgsports actually posted a newer notice and it has some noticeable changes on the month to month agreements.

Not only is BBC America off as expected but so are The Scripps Channels which are Cooking Channel, DIY, Food Network and GAC. GSN also is not on the deals anymore either.

It also appears those new sports channels have not launched yet though.

BTW: Fox on the HD Channel thread who found a cable company with Military Channel HD and Military History HD claims that Chiller HD is now out. I'm waiting for confirmation on that but if true, that will be #1 on my want list so I can finally DVR my Friday Chiller movies in HD.
Edited by HDOrlando - 12/16/12 at 1:29am
post #15847 of 18581
Yes that is for TWCKC an I believe the other Cable system here is the one that has those Military Channels in HD. It does not say they will add them but might and will need to suscribe to TWC Sports Pass to get them.
post #15848 of 18581
mgsports,

The cable system with the HD Military channels is in Ohio.

Those Sports Channels will indeed be on Sports Pass when/if they are added.
post #15849 of 18581
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Originally Posted by HDOrlando View Post

Kevin,
mgsports actually posted a newer notice and it has some noticeable changes on the month to month agreements.
Not only is BBC America off as expected but so are The Scripps Channels which are Cooking Channel, DIY, Food Network and GAC. GSN also is not on the deals anymore either.
It also appears those new sports channels have not launched yet though.
BTW: Fox on the HD Channel thread who found a cable company with Military Channel HD and Military History HD claims that Chiller HD is now out. I'm waiting for confirmation on that but if true, that will be #1 on my want list so I can finally DVR my Friday Chiller movies in HD.

I might have jumped the shark. I have not been keeping up with the month to month changes as they have been the same for almost a year oops.

I know that TWC might wait on those HD adds until after the first of the year due to having to do a lot of work on the internet side by adding 4 more DOCSIS channels. I noticed that the central Texas TWC systems are now using 88 (609MHz) and 89 (615MHz) for SDV services as before they were using 90 (621MHz) to 118 (759MHz) for SDV, VOD, Lookback and startover. my area has a lot of work to do as we are going from 6 to 8 downstream DOCSIS channels and are having several analogs removed coinciding with the launch of HD DTAs in my area.
post #15850 of 18581
Kevin: It happens.

TWC might delay but hopefully BHN won't.smile.gif
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Yes I saw or knew that.
post #15852 of 18581
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Originally Posted by HDOrlando View Post

Kevin: It happens.
TWC might delay but hopefully BHN won't.smile.gif

well I wonder now that GSN is of the month to month notices if we will get it in Dallas. I had it announced for channel 723 to be added last november and it fell through now we have TWC Deportes national HD on that channel and TWC is probably going to have to remove the HD VOD title channels on channels 713-722 on the Cisco and Motorola DCX-M boxes in North Texas to add new HD channels unless they stuff some in the area near the HD premium channels.
post #15853 of 18581
Kevin,

Well, I still think we need to see it confirmed on a few other notices to make sure it's not a misprint but if it is not, GSN HD is likely coming your way.

More motivation for you to look at the notices that come out next week.smile.gif
post #15854 of 18581
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Originally Posted by HDOrlando View Post

Kevin,
Well, I still think we need to see it confirmed on a few other notices to make sure it's not a misprint but if it is not, GSN HD is likely coming your way.
More motivation for you to look at the notices that come out next week.smile.gif

my notices come out today!

Oh by the way those channels are not on the Waco Texas notice either so deal a was completed for those channels wink.gif
post #15855 of 18581
Kevin,

All of them as in BBC America, Cooking Channel, DIY, Food Network, GAC and GSN?

That would be great.

If GAC (Never watch it) launches in HD, TWC/BHN will be able to get it.

Hopefully, more channels will have new agreements especially Starz/Encore.
post #15856 of 18581
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Originally Posted by HDOrlando View Post

Kevin,
All of them as in BBC America, Cooking Channel, DIY, Food Network, GAC and GSN?
That would be great.
If GAC (Never watch it) launches in HD, TWC/BHN will be able to get it.
Hopefully, more channels will have new agreements especially Starz/Encore.

Yes!

here is the legal notice for wichita falls texas:
Wichita Falls Time Warner Cable's agreements with programmers to carry their services routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, and carriage of programming services is discontinued only in rare circumstances. The following agreements with programmers are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services in the near future. Current TV E! Encore Encore HD Encore Action Encore Drama Encore Love Encore Suspense Encore Family Encore Westerns Hallmark Channel Hallmark Channel HD IFC IFC HD Lifetime Lifetime HD LMN Music Choice Channels NHL Center Ice NHL Center Ice HD NHL Network NHL Network HD Ovation ShopNBC Smithsonian HD Starz Starz HD Starz Cinema Starz Edge Starz Edge HD Starz InBlack Starz Kids and Family Starz Kids and Family HD Starz On Demand Style WE tv WE tv HD In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned: ADD: None at this time MOVE: C-SPAN from Standard Cable Channel 38 to Standard Cable Channel 70 (Digital Set-Top Box or Digital Adaptor Required) ESPN2 from Standard Cable Channel 70 to Standard Cable Channel 38 Hallmark Channel from Standard Cable Channel 76 to Standard Cable Channel 68 History from Standard Cable Channel 72 to Standard Cable Channel 46 LMN from Standard Cable Channel 68 to Standard Cable Channel 76 (Digital Set-Top Box or Digital Adaptor Required) National Geographic from Standard Cable Channel 75 to Standard Cable Channel 62 Oxygen from Standard Cable Channel 62 to Standard Cable Channel 75 TruTV from Standard Cable Channel 46 to Standard Cable Channel 72 (Digital Set-Top Box or Digital Adaptor Required) TV Land from Standard Cable Channel 73 to Standard Cable Channel 43 YouToo from Standard Cable Channel 43 to Standard Cable Channel 73 DELETE: None at this time CHANGE: None at this time The new services listed below cannot be accessed on CableCARD-equipped Unidirectional Digital Cable Products purchased at retail without additional, two-way capable equipment: BBC World News to Digital Cable Channel 349 FREE PREVIEW Time Warner Cable will offer a Free Preview of Showtime 1/11/13 - 1/13/13. It is available to all Digital subscribers and may contain PG, PG-13, TV-14, TVMA and R rated programs. If you wish to have this Preview blocked, and for parental control information, visit twc.com or call 1-800-TWCABLE. Programming is subject to change. Not all services available in all areas. Restrictions may apply. *HD Television and HD set-top box required to receive HD service All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. 2012 Time Warner Cable, Inc. All rights reserved. Time Warner Cable and the eye/ear logo are trademarks of Time Warner Inc. Used under license.

Waco Texas Notice:

Waco Time Warner Cable's agreements with programmers to carry their services routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, and carriage of programming services is discontinued only in rare circumstances. The following agreements with programmers are due to expire soon, and we may be required to cease carriage of one or more of these services in the near future. AYM Sports CBTV Michoacan Current TV E! Encore Encore Action Encore Drama Encore Love Encore Suspense Encore Family Encore Westerns GolTV Hallmark Channel Hallmark Channel HD Hallmark Movie Channel Hallmark Movie Channel HD Halogen IFC Lifetime Lifetime HD Lifetime Real Women LMN LMN HD Mexico 22 Music Choice Channels NHL Center Ice NHL Center Ice HD Once Mexico Ovation ShopNBC Smithsonian HD Starz Starz Cinema Starz Edge Starz HD Starz InBlack Starz Kids & Family Starz On Demand Style WE tv WE tv HD In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned: ADD: KDYW to Basic Cable Channel TBA MOVE: CMT from Standard Cable Channel 48 to Standard Cable Channel 72 National Geographic from Standard Cable Channel 72 to Standard Cable Channel 48 OWN from Standard Cable Channel 37 to Standard Cable Channel 71 (Digital Set-Top Box or Digital Adaptor Required) SPEED from Standard Cable Channel 71 to Standard Cable Channel 37 DELETE: None at this time CHANGE: None at this time The new services listed below cannot be accessed on CableCARD-equipped Unidirectional Digital Cable Products purchased at retail without additional, two-way capable equipment. HD Television and HD set-top box required to receive HD services. BBC World News to Digital Cable Channel 114 FREE PREVIEW Time Warner Cable will offer a Free Preview of Showtime 1/11/13 - 1/13/13. It is available to all Digital subscribers and may contain PG, PG-13, TV-14, TVMA and R rated programs. If you wish to have this Preview blocked, and for parental control information, visit twc.com or call 1-800-TWCABLE. Programming is subject to change. Not all services available in all areas. Restrictions may apply. * HD Television and HD set-top box required to receive HD service All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. �2012 Time Warner Cable, Inc. All rights reserved. Time Warner Cable and the eye/ear logo are trademarks of Time Warner Inc. Used under license.

My notice should look similar to wichita falls notice as we are having analogs removed on the same day!
post #15857 of 18581
Nothing in those legal notices for those channels.

Nice to see it shrink.

Ours comes out in two weeks with a sneak peak via Michigan in one and a half weeks.
post #15858 of 18581
here we go again TWC trying to drop cheap unexpensive channels to make a point:

TWC plans to drop ovation which seems to only be asking for pennies a month were will this madness end. Your supposed to be adding HD channels not dropping them Uh mad.gifmad.gif

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/time-warner-cable-intends-drop-160000167.html
post #15859 of 18581
Oh I hope it doesn't get dropped here! It's one of the ones I watch.
post #15860 of 18581
I never watch Ovation but it would really suck for Nayan.

A settlement at the last minute could happen.

With new deals down for BBC America, Food Network, Cooking Channel, DIY, GAC and GSN, you have to wonder if they are going to complete any other deals or drop some other channels.

BTW: It's confirmed. Chiller HD is available and hopefully it will be picked up.
post #15861 of 18581
I hope we get Chiller HD for you! They have some good stuff on there and it would be nice to have another HD channel. I really hope they don't start dropping some of the niche channels as there's a number of them I do watch.
post #15862 of 18581
Nayan,

I think they will drop some channels but mostly indys like Ovation. A channel like Current TV could be next as it is on month to month deals and an Indy.

Chiller HD would be great. It's #1 on my HD wishlist of currently available channels and even channels that are not available yet in HD.
post #15863 of 18581
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Originally Posted by HDOrlando View Post

Nayan,
I think they will drop some channels but mostly indys like Ovation. A channel like Current TV could be next as it is on month to month deals and an Indy.
Chiller HD would be great. It's #1 on my HD wishlist of currently available channels and even channels that are not available yet in HD.

I wonder if Ovation can fight the channel drop as they are an independent carrier and they pretty much have evidence that TWC is just dropping channels to save them money while not lowering customers bills. I could see a fight going to the FCC and Ovation winning because TWC is looking for more profit while making the customers and channel owners lose.

TWC has a problem and it is with channel selection they don't have enough of the same national lineup uniform across the country so people drop them where they don't have 100 or more HD channels and yet TWC does not seem to be interested in upgrading like they should.
post #15864 of 18581
Here are two more articles on Ovation

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-time-warner-cable-to-drop-arts-channel-ovation-20121218,0,4562899.story

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324907204578187442454293134.html

The first tells a little bit about talks broke down earlier this year and how more systems recently got the HD version.

The second talks about some other channels on month to month deals. Hallmark likes their progress and it's mentioned that Current' whose agreement is based on ratings as earlier reported, gets lower ratings than Ovation.

Based on the first one, I think talks can pick up again if Ovation caves but with this news along with the agreements that have been reached (BBc Amerca, Scripps Networks, GSN), it will be interesting to see if anything gets pulled or new deals are struck for anything.

I also found this on WE TV, IFC, E! and Style

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-03/time-warner-cable-threatens-to-drop-low-rated-networks.html

What is interesting here is it matches the 4 channels on the memo from the TWC rep that Kevin mentioned.

And of course, we are all pulling for a new Starz deal.smile.gif

It could be very interesting to see if anything is dropped along with watch the newswires for news after the ball drops on New Year's.
Edited by HDOrlando - 12/18/12 at 10:40pm
post #15865 of 18581
Not sure how reliable The New York Post is but word is IFC and WE could get the ax. Current TV is also mentioned but that has been rumored since early this year and that deal has something to do with ratings.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/twc_ovation_cut_just_start_DeZ5iURgulVTz07mnJrFgJ

If IFC and WE are dropped, it would only last until The AMC agreement is up when they will demand IFC and WE be on the system or no new deal for AMC. Without AMC, they would have no leverage.

I like IFC's movies and would not like to see it dropped. However, if it is, I hope it is replaced in the Movie Pass Package.

I will not miss Ovation, would not miss WE but would like Current to stay for there documentaries.

My feeling is Gol TV could also be on the chopping block.

It's going to be an interesting two weeks.
post #15866 of 18581
I read the same thing in the WSJ this morning. I never watch WE or Current but it would suck for those who do. And I'm sorry Kevin, but lower our bills if they drop channels? Ummm, yeah. biggrin.gif
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post #15868 of 18581
Nayan: It is going to be an interesting two weeks. It seems like TWC wants to make a statement.

mgsports: This was already on a legal notice here.
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post #15870 of 18581
Military Channel HD coming to TWC California systems on January 16th also notice MTV2 HD, TV Land HD, and Disney Jr. HD making their debut in the west coast TWC systems smile.gif?

LEGAL NOTICES
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San Diego division agreements with programmers and broadcasters to carry their service and stations routinely expire from time to time. We are usually able to obtain renewals or extensions of such agreements, but in order to comply with applicable regulations, we must inform you when an agreement is about to expire. The following
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