Originally Posted by oriolesmagic
Posted this on the overall channel thread, but I thought some of you (I know Kevin will be interested) to see Charter going all digital in Southern California, promising 185 HD channels. I can't wait to see a list here of what's coming. Those areas, unlike TX, went SDV and have around 100 HD channels already. Some of the announced have been listed.
Disney Junior, Hallmark Movie Channel, DIY Network, FX Movie Channel, CBS Sports Network and FOX Soccer. That's 6 of 79. One of the channels is already on the lineup in some systems out in Southern California, depending on bandwidth.
Here we have a list. Wow. Charter, please buy Atlantic Broadband back. NOW.
Add Logo HD to your possibilities list as Charter is getting it. A really great lineup, and amazingly there's room for growth. They're adding the Extra Innings channels, but not in HD.
hmm interesting I can see North Texas adding up to 185 HD channels but it won't be until they launch SDV or decide upgrade the 750MHz headends/hubs in North Texas along with the 450MHz and 550MHz hubs. Some of the areas are partially upgraded to handle the new channels but don't due to headend issues such as charter wanting to wait until they can migrate the headend into a full blown fiber fed headend from Fort Worth which is already in the works as one of the systems is getting Smithsonian channel SD from Fort Worth Texas via the fiber link that they just got to support the internet backbone and future HD adds
I know that I have family that live in several different areas with bandwidths for Charter 450MHz, 750MHz, and 860MHz
all in the North Texas cluster. I was told that Charter is going to rebuild the 750MHz and 450MHz/550MHz areas later this year and hopefully be done in 2014. Most of the 750MHz areas can handle the 140 HD channels but there is one 750MHz area that is going to need amp replacement and more amps added in between the current ones as they are spaced too far apart as there was supposedly a test on the system once it had all of the 550MHz amps removed and they were only able to get a reliable signal to 650MHz and it was decided that Charter just go ahead and do a full rebuild to handle a 860MHz lineup as the trunk/bridger amps are 860MHz and 1GHz but the line extenders are 750MHz and the spacing is what is killing them as they are like 5 or 6 telephone poles between each amp as they are 550MHz amp spacing even though the equipment is setup for 750MHz gear with the trunk amps being replaced with 860MHz and 1GHz CCOR gear because they weren't too reliable for two-way communications on the internet side.
I want to say that Fort Worth and Park Cities could handle 180+ HD channels but it would use up almost the entire bandwidth on the system if they do
Now it wouldn't shock me if the 860MHz Fort Worth system added the newer HD channels that are being added in SoCal and then wait to add them to the 750MHz areas of North Texas until they upgrade them to 100% digital and possibly replace the amps to 1GHz as two areas in North Texas have 750MHz Magnavox amps and those would likely go unless Charter decides to launch SDV there eventually. But I am thinking it is possible for Charter to fit 185 HD channels in the 750MHz areas but it will be a tight squeeze as it would take up about 100-110 QAMs!
Oh and the systems in California that are getting 185 HD channels are 860MHz on top of having SDV which is an added bonus
With TWC here in North Texas I have 144 HD channels with SDV and 860MHz of bandwidth
soon to be 145 HD channels.
I think it wouldn't be too hard for the Texas systems to add more HD channels as it looks like they would only need about 10-13 more QAMs to add the channels that SoCal has that North Texas doesn't so it should not be too hard
to add them.
Sorry about this post but was responding to OriolesMagic
Upon comparing the the Long Beach and Fort Worth/Park Cities lineups there isn't really that much Fort Worth/Park Cities is missing except for the West/East duplicate HD feeds of premiums
I can understand Fort Worth not getting the west coast feeds because even though charter is all digital that bandwidth is very precious since they are not SDV
The only channels Fort Worth/Park Cities could add are besides the west coast feeds are:
HBO Comedy HD
HBO zone HD
HBO Latino HD
Max Latino HD
Showtime Beyond HD
Showtime Extreme HD
Showtime Next HD
Starz Comedy HD
BBC World News HD
Sundance Channel HD
Military Channel HD
ESPN Goaline/buzzer beater HD
so yeah guys sorry for the long winded post
But yeah Oriolesmagic I could see Fort Worth adding these HD channels as they should have room for 5 more 3:1 HD QAMs Edited by kevin120 - 7/25/13 at 7:18pm