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But with the Patriot Act and their asking libraries for reading list of members ....

Greg,

Sorry if I represented Bright House collects user data, I was not trying to say that, only TiVo does this to my knowledge.

TiVo DOES NOT compile and release data in a way that allows anyone to see anything specific about a user. I do know that they have the ability to tell at what point in time and on what channel you paused, replayed, fast forwarded and rewinded. If they can tell that surely they can identify from which user that data came from. I'm sure if they were to release specific user data the ACLU and others would have them for lunch.

I am not saying any of my predictions are currently happening, they are purely hypothetical theories based on the research I performed.

Whether or not Bright House ever collects data is totally up to them, that will be interesting to see. I bet if they do it will be no different than TiVo.

This makes me wonder, if whoever operates your DVR service were colleting data about what you watched and placed ad's in the DVR that would appeal to you, would you find that an invasion of privacy or offensive? Would you not use the service if they did this even if they offered the DVR for free, and even if you continued to skip through commercials? Again I'm not saying anyone is doing this but I like to hypothesize about what's to come and this seems like a big one to me.

Peter,

You didn't represent it. I just wanted to preemptively nip any such speculation in the bud.

And what we collect with regard to private information is NOT up to us -- its governed by Federal regulations on cable operators that Tivo is not subject to. Once a year, every one of our subscribers gets a "privacy statement" from us describing the uses we can and cannot make with your personal data.

Anybody have a Tivo? Look through the paperwork and see what you've agreed to allow Tivo to do with your personal info. I'd be interested in hearing.

Personally, I'd use a TiVo or DVR regardless of sharing of viewing habits, but that's just me. It's that life-changing...

Although there was no paperwork, I do recall something when going through initial setup to the effect of "by selecting yes, you agree to the privacy policy"

From the summary of the TiVo Privacy Policy at:
http://www.tivo.com/5.11.asp (and click on DVR with Tivo privacy policy)

" The TiVo DVR collects certain types of information from its users, including
Anonymous Viewing Information, Diagnostic Information, Commerce
Information, and Service Information (each as defined below).
TiVo has no way to access any of your Personally Identifiable Viewing
Information (as defined below) from your TiVo DVR without your prior
consent. Absent your consent, TiVo has no way of knowing what shows you-as an individual or household- have watched, recorded, or rated with Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down. ........
TiVo does collect Anonymous Viewing Information; that is, information
about viewing choices made while using your TiVo DVR, but that does not
identify you as an individual or household. In other words, there is no personally identifiable information associated with your Anonymous Viewing Information that could identify the Anonymous Viewing Information as coming from you or your household.
TiVo also collects Diagnostic Information from a small number of randomly
sampled TiVo DVRs for quality control purposes. If you subscribe to the TiVo
Plus service and don't want your Anonymous Viewing Information and
Diagnostic Information used in any way, simply tell us ..."

The big question remains, when is BHN gonna release their HD DVR?

Greg, any update on ESPN HD, I'm dying here missing all these Hockey games in HD and Football is coming soon. My ESPN and ESPN2 look horrible.

Your help here on this forum is the main reason I've been sticking with Brighthouse, but I Don't think I can make another season with out ESPN HD

Thanks, Mike

And ESPN just added a 3rd HD truck which should insure that most of the big events they cover will be HD. And don't forget their new facility is going online 6/7 meaning HD SportsCenter (with Baseball Tonight, etc soon to follow)!

This is must see HDTV!

I've got a meeting next Friday that will be attended by the programming reps. ESPN HD is the first question on my list.

No word on the HD DVR yet...but it's close. We may have a few other things up our sleeve as well :-).

We are having a lunch gathering on June 5th. All Central Florida AVS forum people are invited to attend. Meeting details are here.

Please RSVP to barry@orlandodigital.tv

You're killin' me!

Voom

Is anyone hooked up to VOOM yet? Seems like their pricing is starting to be competitive. Would like to hear comments about VOOM if you have any. Thanks

I live just down the road in Belleview. I'm a service tech for the A/C company that does all the work in SCCC. I'm in the park almost daily.

As for the HD OTA, I can't help you, but I'd be interested in hearing the answer from somebody that did. I have BHN and am very satisfied with them. I think your only choice for cable is Galaxy in Spruce Creek, but I may be wrong about that.

Greg: "a few things up my sleeve". Let's see: pay for view HD? or HD VOD (both).

Starz HD, TMC HD, Encore HD, Bravo HD, Max HD.

Just guessing.

You're not... I know someone who lives there and they were very unhappy with the cable service (and very envious of my BHN Cable), they went with D* instead.

I posted a few months back, disappointed with my E* PQ. Well, I finally switched to BHN last week and, yeah, there's some fuzziness on some of the analog channels, but it's more than made up for by the high quality on all the digital & movie channels. Further, any negative PQ issues on analog channels are absolutely minor and totally watchable, especially when compared to the compressed softness of E*.

Now, as for BHN's HD content; I knew I was going to be happy just by dint of having more programming, but, honestly, I'm amazed with how much I've got. Sopranos last night was awesome (although it did suffer from some VERY minor compression artifacts) and, well, that's all.

My name is Revox and I love cable. I know lots of people have major PQ issues with cable, but I'll say unequivocally that BHN doesn't suffer from those. Their CSR's could use some work -- and consistent training -- but that's my only complaint so far.

Now, where's my HD-DVR??!!?!?!? I hate having two boxes.

Greg - anything new on the TNT-HD? TW put them on so was hoping you guys would have them too

Know you said something up the sleeve, but with the best NBA playoff month ever behind us (my opinion) I was hoping to see some of the best to come in HD

Thanks - and yeah by the way tell them that at least two people on this board has said not another season without ESPN-HD - this will make you loose customers - no way that I go through Sunday Nights and half a hockey season (Strike) again without ESPN-HD.....

Considering TNT is owned by Time Warner... I assumed that TNT would be added once it is debuted in a few weeks. Nothing is posted on BHN or TNT's website though (that I found) about TNT-HD, which makes me nervous.

Speaking of basketball... I feel that ABC dropped the ball. All of these nationally televised NBA games all year... none in HD. Now that the playoff's are here, still NONE ONE on ABC-HD. Really poor on their part.

Patience, Grasshopper... in time all shall be revealed.

Greg might be refering to VOIP with the ability to bring your landlines number. Sounds interesting enough..............

Ok, now I can tell this part...

Starting June 24, we will be adding TNT HD to our HD lineup!

TNT HD will begin previewing on May 21, just in time to watch the NBA Western Conference Finals. In addition to extensive NBA coverage, TNT HD offers the hit show Law & Order, TNT Originals and blockbuster movies. Check out channel 1311 to view a combination of exciting programming and see that TNT HD means more than just high def."

TNT HD will be available to all HD customers at no additional charge, rather like Discovery is currently.

Sorry, no word on any of the other stuff yet.

Sweet! TNT was the channel I wanted to see the most.

Greg, you are killing me TNT HD we need ESPN HD

Greg,

I know the 8000HD is still a way off. I am in Marion County and have the first 3250HD with firewire. I would like to obtain a second for now until 8000HD availability. I have been told I am lucky enough to have one.

Could an act of greg change this? When do you expect general availability of the 3250HD in my area?

So far I love the 3250HD it beats by PACE box in PQ and general responsivenes. I find I am wanting to watch TV through the 3250 instead of using it for dedicated recording and use my pace for watching.

Is it just a matter of time before the SA box replaces the PACE??

Thanks for the update Greg - I for one am definately excited about the extra basketball games in HD - now don't take the wrong way since I think it must be pretty clear that ESPN-HD is by far the most wanted HD channel

Thanks!

I hope everyone who is requesting ESPN-HD realizes they have almost no HD content. I had ESPN-HD on DirecTV for a while and after football season ended it was definitely not worth any additional money. They stretch all the 4:3 SD content wide instead of giving the viewer a choice of aspect ratio.

ESPN HD SCHEDULE

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tvl...s/espnhd/index


Some days have zero HD content and most days have 2 to 3 hours maximum. Sportscenter will be nothing more than 2 talking heads in HD rolling in primarily analog sourced SD hi-lites. I for one am glad BHN is fighting Disney's attempt to charge us a double digit increase for so little HD content. Rates do not ever go down and we will be stuck with these high costs for years to come.

On another subject,
I know big cable is against "a la carte" program packaging but I will support Senator McCain if he proposes legislation requiring cable to give us the option. I only need about 20 channels but pay for hundreds of SD channels like QVC and non-english content I never watch. For example, I like to watch a show on IFC called "dinner for five" but to watch this one show I had to buy the entire Encore channel package of 16 more channels I never watch for $3.99 a month.

I realize that previous arguments to the ESPN HD channel being in the BHN line up were geared towards the amount of actual HD programming that was available on the various HD channels and the fact that channels like the Discovery HD carried far more actual HD programming than channels like ESPN HD, however it seems that BHN would realize much more of a benefit by carrying ESPN HD rather than some of those other channels.

Reason being is because of the potential 'word-of-mouth' advertising that carrying such a channel could result in. As much as I appreciate the amount of HD programming available through BHN and find much of the programming fascinating, when was the last time anyone invited a bunch of people over to their house to see whales having sex in HD??? Never that I know ofand for those of you that might have, I don't think we really want to know about that!!! On the flip side, when was the last time somebody invited a bunch of people over to watch a big sporting event that was being covered in HD??? All the time, and right now, except for the NHL games that have been carried on ABC, that isn't happening, so if we want to see anything covered on ESPN HD, we are forced to go to our buddy's house who has it on satellite...obviously I know nothing about the ongoing negotiations, but doesn't anyone at BHN recognize the marketing potential that could be added by working something out with the ESPN HD folks?? Please, we don't ask for much do we????

I know it's impossible to please everyone all the time, but as of recent, it seems like if we can get ESPN HD on our HD PVR box from BHNthere wouldn't be any need for this message board any longer, because everyone would be happy, right??? Perhaps I'm way off base here, but these are just my casual observations from an elementary perspective.

Thanks,
Jim

To me having Football and Hockey is enough to justify spending extra money.
I pay for the Hd package and right now there is little value in it.

How many times can you watch UCF 45, I'm up to three just because it's in HD.

I watch ESPN all the time, Football and Hockey are almost unwatchable on ESPN or ESPN2 because of pq issues.

I can't remember the last time I watched any thing on TNT.

Now I'm not complaining about getting TNT HD I actually might start watching just because of the HD.

I am all about ESPN-HD as the next guy... but I see both sides of this. I read the "What's the most disappointing HD Channel" forum from this site about a week ago (check it out)... and the responses were mostly ESPN becuase of the little HD programming on it, and the non-HD is stretched out.

I also understand that ABC is trying to charge BHN too much to carry it... which means we are stuck with paying it, thus the negotiations continue for our benefit in the wallet I assume.

If BHN added ESPN last month, we would all be complaining about how little HD is on it... and that we're paying too much for it... so I do understand the delay.

I am glad to see TNT added though.

Question... WGN broadcasts in HD in Chicago (local station)... when will they likely do that nation-wide? (Cub fan here).

Greg,
Just to let you know, despite recent messages, not everyone wanting more HD is interested in sports.