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Thomas - I had a call from the CSR after one email and he knew about this thread too - also knew that Greg is posting here - Not sure if the ones answering emails are the same as the ones answering the phone or if that is the more advanced guys

I will check Discovery tonight, but so far only really seen the problem at TNT - not that I have watched that much lately so other might know more.

Greg - haven't watched much TNT, but from what I am reading it is ALL stretched upconvert except the few b-ball games that soon are over. On of the main reason stated for not having ESPN-HD is that they don't have enough HD...........could it really just be about the money portion since they sure do have more than TNT and on a regular basis. I fully understand that both of these are going towards more HD - both are, but only one is coming in through my box....

Since this thread seems to be weighted down with BHN issues I've created another CFL thread for OTA & Satellite folks to discuss related issues..

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=406377

TTT

Has anyone used the pass-through capability of the pace box? I have a receiver and I am out of a/v ports for my xbox. I am currently using the component out and optical audio out and was thinking of getting the right cables for the xbox and use the pass-through of the pace. Anyone tried this?? As soon as the HD-PVR comes out, I won't have this problem

Thanks
Chris

I've been using it that way for several months. I let the scaler do the switching rather than the Pace. I go directly from the Pace to the PDP via DVI. I also have a backup routing via component through the receiver, but I don't use that path except for watching DVDs as there are no DVI enabled receivers, they went directly to HDMI. Hope that helps.

Chris, It sounds like you are talking about using the In/Out feature of the multiple outputs (component, digital audio, composite, etc.) on the back of the box. It should work fine, I believe it switches to the pass thru mode when the receiver if off (status button is red).

If you are asking what I think Lou thought you were asking about (the scaler output setting) Pass thru works well if your display's video processor (or external processor) does a better job at converting the video to the exact resolution of your display.

I have my ReplayTV hooked up through the passthrough on the Pace box. Just turn off the cable box and whatever is plugged into the pass through comes through.

I'm using the component video pass-through with my xbox and it works great. When the Pace box is off (red light), the xbox audio and video steps right in.

Greg - haven't watched much TNT, but from what I am reading it is ALL stretched upconvert except the few b-ball games that soon are over. On of the main reason stated for not having ESPN-HD is that they don't have enough HD...........could it really just be about the money portion since they sure do have more than TNT and on a regular basis. I fully understand that both of these are going towards more HD - both are, but only one is coming in through my box.... [/b][/quote]

I'm guessing here, but I thought that everything I read said that TNT-HD is a "preview" until the end of June (so they could show the NBA games). Wishful thinking here, but I was hoping that the stretched images are current, but come end of June when the "preview" ends there will be more HD content as TNT-HD officially launches at the end of June.

???

Isn't there a TNT-HD thread? If not someone should create one. I'm sure Greg is not the only one with TNT-HD knowledge.

Can I connect my xbox via component cables to the pace box and then use dvi cables to my tv from the pace box?

Go to: http://www.tnt.tv/ and hit ask TNT at the middle top, down one level. First listing will be TNT HD.

One of the experts here can verify or deny this, but I'm about 95% sure you cannot. My understanding is that you have to have the same going in as coming out, it won't convert the signal for you, it's simply working as a passthrough.

No. It's only a pass through (or loop through as Pace calls it), not a converter. Unfortunately, there is no DVI input for pass through for a DVI DVD player.

Here's the link to the manual. See page 14 of the manual.

http://www.pacemicro.com/products/ma...ors_Manual.pdf

Is anyone here using Voom?? I'm wondering if it is worth the switch from BH. Yea's or Nay's?

Check out this site which has all you wanted to know about VOOM but were afraid to ask. I was considering it but I am going to give D* a little time to add to its HD lineup as I need to keep them due to Regional Sports package, Center Ice and Sunday Ticket. Here is the link:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/index.php?

To me, Voom looks like a good add-on, not a replacement. If you want to give it a try I don't think it gets any better. There is no commitment, nothing to buy, and if you don't like it just send it back, and the installer keeps his money.

I'm going to a training class tomorrow I'll let you know if I find out anything else.

Try these threads for more info.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=406987
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=408335

Peter,

Is it possible to hook up a VOOM receiver to a re-aimed DirecTV dish?

Yeah the fact that you're renting the equipment really lowers the risk. Also with all the rain we get, how much does that hurt reception?

Thanks for the links.

I have VOOM and use the 30" dish. Rain fade becomes no problem at all with the larger dish.

Dewey, Hope you are doing well. Are you still happy with VOOM? Of course, I am still sitting on the fense. I will decide before the $0 deal ends in July. Been concerns with PQ issues in various forums so I was wondering how it all looks to you. From all I have gathered, it appears most of VOOMs problems is the STB is just not ready for prime time, at least not to the extent the D* boxes are. Sounds like they are getting there though. HAs the most recent software update hit? Heard it was supposed to be soon.

Anyway, let me know if you are still happy with VOOM. Thanks again.

I watch VOOM everyday and I just don't have some of the problems indicated in the forums which I read also. Being a charter member of VOOM I have gone through a lot of the problems associated with any new startup. New software upgrades have improved the stability of the STBs significantly. I have D and BHN. Like all three. The STBs with V are as stable as the D boxes now. I haven't needed to reboot one for a couple of months. Two reasons I believe some of the problems outlined in the forums don't seem to be present for me. I had a great installer and I have a 30" dish. My installer was very quality oriented and took the time necessary to do the job right. One thing I will say somewhat negative: my OTAs are ok with V STB, probably due to the diplexer. I ran a separate line from the antenna and connected it to my D Hughes STB. OTAs on it are solid and stable.

Yes, I am satisfied with VOOM. I have D for NFL Ticket and I believe BHN provides a quality product too. I just wish they would bring out the HD DVR.

In my opinion, now is the time to strike as Peter noted earlier for V. No upfront costs, pay a monthly fee, if you don't like it send it back. Installer keeps his fees.

I just noticed that WOFLs digital channel is now broadcasting in 720p instead of 1080i.

Anyone notice when that change took place?

Guess we're that much closer to HD on fox.

I wish we'd bring out the HD-DVR too...so much that I'm bringing one to the meeting of the Orlando HDTV Society tomorrow. Plus I'll answer a few of those questions I've been so far behind on getting too. See Barry's website for details.

Hey all,

It is not too late to join our group for lunch, meet the people from this thread, see the prototype HD DVR equipment from BHN and meet Greg in person. You are welcome to join us at Chili's.


All the details are here.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=401895

What's up with WFTV DT tinight for the game on BHN? Anyone else having problems?

Voom uses the same standard dish and LNB as DirecTV/Dish so all you have to do is move your dish to point at 61.5 WL.

Voom is not allowed to be self installed, and professional installation comes with a dish and dual LNB, so you don't have to move your old DirecTV dish.

You can use a larger dish to compensate for rain fade, up to about 1 meter. After that you start to have overlap from neighboring birds which has been known to cause problems.

As far as I am aware, Voom installs in this area come standard with an 18" round dish. If you want a larger dish that would cost extra, any installer should be able to accommodate that request. I have heard people saying that Voom will use a 30" dish as part of the standard install. I believe that is for areas in the western US since 61.5 WL is a far shot and low elevations for that area.


Ddeloach,

Voom told me that up until now, the product was not officially ready. There were several internal reasons why they launched the product back in October, mainly to keep investors happy.

Now that they are at the point where the product is stable and ready to go, as you have noted, a full launch is commencing. I would disregard any problems you read about in the past.

As for the offer, it is very compelling since there is no commitment, however they were very clear in telling dealers that abnormal churn will not be tolerated. Therefore if you plan on getting Voom please don't do it with the intentions of canceling it. If what they have looks good to you then go for it.

I just don't want people saying I said to try it and cancel it since it will not hurt the dealer, because if that dealer has too many disconnects they will no longer be a dealer.

I still think at this point unless you watch no SD programming, Voom is still an add-on since there is very little popular sports and no PPV (as well as a few missing popular SD channels.)

It is nice to read you support what I said. I wouldn't recommend cancelling it either, but the deal, unless extended, expires 7/5/04. Also, for the record, their Customer Service has been outstanding, something I have experienced with BHN. For anyone interested, PM me and I will be happy to give you the name of my installer.

I got the feeling from Voom that the free install offer would continue well past July 5th. Remember when DirecTV used to sometimes offer free install? Now it's always free. I think Voom is going to go that way right away. Having the date just creates a sense of urgency, which is of course what they want. I will see what more I can find out.

My HDTV has been in the shop since December, that is another story... When it returns to my home Saturday, what is the OTA situation here in CF now, mid June 04? I am asking this to avoid seeing a week signal notice on my RCA 100 STB and spending hours moving the antenna just to find that you guys already knew the station was down... If this is answered somewhere else in this board, please point me there.