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post #301 of 18581
Which is why the whole thing is so stupid when the wiring is existing. Greg correct me if I am wrong, but no one should be charged for inside wiring if all that is done is an outside drop. This reminds me of the days when Cable Vision, who owned the franchise before TWC and BHN used to charge a monthly fees for how many drops were active.
post #302 of 18581
OK, now you are hitting on why I asked this BHN install question to begin with. I couldn't connect the dots between the "how many TV's are you going to want hooked up" and my media panel which has 20+ coax drops in it (yeah, you read that right).

The entire point of me purchasing the panel was so that I can control what goes where. I don't know how many outlets I will ultimately want to use. What I want is ONE single clean signal provided by BHN to inside my panel. I want verification at ONE TV that this signal is clean and within specs. I have ONE cable box that I rent, and on the other TVs I watch plain old analog.

I did confirm that my video hub is a SquareD Amplified/bi-directional one (model SDM16VAB) with can distribute signal to six locations, so I should be good there. I will NOT be happy if I get charged for six outlets. I've been told that the transfer will be $0, but I'm having a hard time believing that until I actually see it.
post #303 of 18581
Greg,
I picked up a DVR last week. Never know how I lived w/o it. Question is about the Aux input which is not enabled. Do you have any idea when it might be enabled. (I've found posts back to 12/2002 asking the same question) Scientific Atlanta ain't saying - In fact I think they suggest questions be directed to the service providers.
And 2nd - about the remotes. We have the 8400's (both for the DVR and PACE HD Box) but SA has newer models that they claim have more codes. Since I can't program either my Sony DVD player nor Sony HT system with the remote is there any chance on getting the new remotes?
post #304 of 18581
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Originally posted by Cruzer
Greg,
I picked up a DVR last week. Never know how I lived w/o it. Question is about the Aux input which is not enabled. Do you have any idea when it might be enabled. (I've found posts back to 12/2002 asking the same question) Scientific Atlanta ain't saying - In fact I think they suggest questions be directed to the service providers.
And 2nd - about the remotes. We have the 8400's (both for the DVR and PACE HD Box) but SA has newer models that they claim have more codes. Since I can't program either my Sony DVD player nor Sony HT system with the remote is there any chance on getting the new remotes?

My Sony DVD player is also my surround sound system. The DVD functions, but not the sound. How great it would be to control the volume on that from the cable remote. Also I have a Sony TV... and the TV/VIDEO aka... SOURCE button does not work my TV. Is this true? Are there newer remotes? Thanks for bringing this up!
post #305 of 18581
Just talked to a coworker with the same problem. Pace HD box, SA remote and Sony HT. He can't control the Sony HT at all. That makes at least 3 of us.
The only other solution I have is to run the audio from the Pace box to my TV. Then my TV has stereo outputs that I can run to the HT. That way I can control sound with the SA remote (controlling the TV sound out) but, then I lose Dolby Digital output of the Pace box. Also I have to leave the HT on.
I guess I could also plug the HT power into the Pace box and then select it to be switched but then I don't remember if the HT system comes up in video mode or not. Maybe that will work for your system.
post #306 of 18581
Why not buy a programmable / learning remote instead of rewiring your system?
post #307 of 18581
I think I'd have to agree about picking up the learning remote.

Because we have so many remotes deployed, it would be an operational nightmare to introduce yet another flavor of remote into the system. While we do have a couple of different model remotes, we've insisted that they use the same code library.

As for the discussion about numbers of outlets and structured wiring:

We do not charge for programming services (standard cable) provided to any number of outlets in the home. On a normal install, I believe we hook up to 3 outlets at no extra charge.

Even if wiring already exists to the outlet beyond those three, we will charge for connect tv's to outlets beyond those, generally because it takes time, materials and testing to ensure adequate service on those.

But in the structured wiring case, with the outlets already connected, we should only have charged you for the number of TV's (beyond the three) that we connected. Just having the existing outlet live shouldn't be a charge.

The comment about our person coming out to inspect was just that -- a check to see if our contractor was trying to overcharge us for the installation, because we do go back and audit these guys.
post #308 of 18581
Thanks for the clarification on the audit, Greg.
post #309 of 18581
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Originally posted by Barry928
Why not buy a programmable / learning remote instead of rewiring your system?

I tried that and could not stand the remote... so I returned it. I do know that would likely be the only solution. Just got excited when I heard of a possible new remote. Thanks for the feedback though
post #310 of 18581
The remotes available at local retail are cheap but of poor quality. Peter Shipp sells remotes from Theatermaster and Harmony that are very nice quality and so macro friendly your spouse and guests could run your system with only 30 seconds of instruction.
post #311 of 18581
Yeah, the holy grail of the perfect learning remote. I have one too but don't really like it. It works well but isn't comfortable in my hand. All I really want is for the SA remote to control my volume, but I guess that's what I get for buying an off-brand HT like Sony.

What I really need is a learning remote that is brain wave activated.

Greg,
Do you know anything about the enableing of the Aux input on the DVR.
Thanx.
post #312 of 18581
Could you take the component output of the DVR and route it through the component input of the PACE 550?
post #313 of 18581
Quote:


Originally posted by Barry928
The remotes available at local retail are cheap but of poor quality. Peter Shipp sells remotes from Theatermaster and Harmony that are very nice quality and so macro friendly your spouse and guests could run your system with only 30 seconds of instruction.

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of "remotes available at local retail" being of poor quality. I have several Radio Shack remotes (15-1994 and 15-2116) and OFA remotes (older OFA 7800 and the 6131 PVR remote) and have had them for several years. I use one in each room to control equipment all over the house via an IR distrubution system. I also use an RF extender builtin to the 6131 remote. They have been extremely reliable. I also have a pronto remote but it sits on the shelf almost all the time. These remotes are PC programable with the JP1 connector and software and will control virtually any IR device in existance. They can perform nearly all the tasks of the higher end remotes (except for key re-labelling) and in some situations are more powerful. My technology illiterate wife and children can operate my systems with a single push of a button.

The only downside is that there is a learning curve involved with the programming software and the fixed key labels. I can easily afford more expensive remotes but I haven't found anything that provides the ergonomics and power of the JP1 enabled Radio Shack and OFA remotes. The above mentioned Radio Shack models have a high quality "rubbery" feel, have backlit keys and fit in your hand just right. Some of the higher end model are too bulky and don't fit in your hand properly. Who wants to use 2 hands to operate a remote? BTW these remotes are very inexpensive (about $20 to $30 each).

Jay
post #314 of 18581
Glad you like your remotes. Thanks for posting the model numbers. I am a little biased against Radio Shack because the last time I went there a 50 cent adapter was priced at $4. I will not pay that much markup on principle but the remotes sound like a good deal with both macros and the ability to program them with a PC.

I see many people struggling with 4 or 5 remotes and frustrated spouses watching the show in SD because they can't figure out how to switch inputs or can't find the HD channel. $30 seems like a good investment to drop back to only one remote and make your spouse happy.

What remotes are people using right now?
post #315 of 18581
In an unrelated question to anyone else with an OTA...I haven't been able to get a signal off my antenna for the locals for the past few days with Directv. Anyone else having a reception problem or could it be something with my antenna or receiver, it had been working fine until recently. I'm in the Melbourne area. Thanks.
post #316 of 18581
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Originally posted by Barry928
What remotes are people using right now? [/b]

Pronto (the original 1000 series). Love it. :-)

Yes, it's a little on the large side, but I've gotten quite used to it.

Plus, I couldn't stand other remotes with the labeled buttons that wouldn't fit anything I was trying to do. This way, I can design my own "button" layouts on the touch screen, custom for whatever device is being used at the time.

These can still be found here and there for $75-ish, sometimes less.
post #317 of 18581
Quote:


Originally posted by Barry928
What remotes are people using right now?

Harmony 659. Very easy to setup using their website and quite comfortable to hold. If there isn't a button already on the remote for a function you need, there is an LCD screen with 6 customizable buttons for any function you may need.

Michael
post #318 of 18581
HTM 600 works great, works anywhere in the house.
post #319 of 18581
Does anybody know of a good DirectTV installer in the Orlando area?

I've never had satellite before and I just ordered the following yesterday:

I'm getting 3 SD-DVR 40's for only 49.99 each with free standard installation. Separately I also ordered the Channel Master Gain Master DIRECTV Triple LNB Dish Combo with Terk BMS-58.

I did a search on "install" and read alot of horror stories about the "free professional installation"

I want it done right so I think I'd rather just pay somebody GOOD to do it right the first time. If anybody has experience with an good installer in my Orlando area that they know will do it an excellent job, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks for any info.
post #320 of 18581
Barry,

I sell both the Home Theater Master MX-700 and the Philips Pronto and iPronto remote solutions for people looking for IR needs. I don't recommend Harmony remotes simply from an ergonomic standpoint. The buttons are (in contrast to the MX-700 and a Pronto) too small for most people to become comfortable with. The other issue that I run into is that the Harmony tends to be a bit advanced for most of my customers, who are looking for 'simple' one-remote solutions.

Bear in mind, I program my remotes for customers who are usually 'technology challenged' and want simplicity, not special features. If, however, you want an IR-based solution, you really can't beat a Pronto. The software (especially with the new Color TSU-7000) allows the programmer a wide range of options to put in just about any feature or macro you can think of. I use channel icons grouped into categories for my customers who just want to browse TV channels. They find it much easier to use then the on-screen EPG (Electronic Programming Guides).

As for the Radio Shack remotes, bear in mind that RS doesn't MAKE a single remote. They buy OEM products and put their names on them. Some of them (like One For All) are decent, albeit limited, remotes. Others are just plain confusing to all but the most advanced users.

Best Regards,

Fred Forlano
Higher Definition
post #321 of 18581
Fred,

Thanks for the info. I use the Theater Master and really like it.
post #322 of 18581
Don't forget the Pronto's are in the $400 to well over $1000 price range (plus programming) and the Harmony is in the sub $250 range, so they are really different remotes. If you are looking for the functionality Fred described, the Pronto and other similar remotes are the type to get.
post #323 of 18581
What remote to use if I want to just unify all 5 or 6 remotes for one room with some simple macros? Are the Sony products any good?
post #324 of 18581
Thread Starter 
> Are the Sony products any good?

Not really. Get the Home Theater Master MX-500. I think you can find it for under $100. Well worth it.
post #325 of 18581
Need help troubleshooting something.

I've been getting major dropouts one E-Entertainment TV, ShowHD and ESPN-HD on my D* unit. I have found that transponder 8 on SAT C has a signal that is in the dump, can someone that has access to their system check and see if they are showing anything odd on SAT C-8, the other 2 transponders on the same bird are plowing in signal at 90+ average.

Also, in the event of a bad setup outside, does anyone have a good installer that is not going to totally rip me off, D* wanted to send someone out for 70 bucks, considering that they had an installer do the job for free I would hope they could have been a bit better on the tech support dollars.

Thanks in advance,
MIGUEL
post #326 of 18581
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Originally posted by Gilley
What remote to use if I want to just unify all 5 or 6 remotes for one room with some simple macros? Are the Sony products any good?

I own a Harmony H659 and it has worked great. I bought mine at thenerds.net for $120. Worth every penny.

http://www.harmonyremote.com

It has a huge WAF (wife acceptance factor) with the "Play a Movie, Watch TV" type buttons.

The setup was painless and my whole system, with 2 game consoles, DVD player, HD cable, PVR, cd player, receiver, tv, and vhs - this one remote handles them all with ease.

I can't recommend it enough. The form factor works great and the buttons are all where they should be. I took my 7 remotes and put them in a box. This is the only one I need.

But don't take my word for it. Read about it here. http://www.remotecentral.com/sst659/index.html
post #327 of 18581
Anybody gotten a box from Brighthouse with Firewire yet? Supposedly as of April 1st, cable companies are required to provide a firewire-enabled cable box to anyone that asks. I currently have DirecTV, but i am looking to switch to brighthouse.
post #328 of 18581
I had a firewire SA3250 box for a while after I switched to Brighthouse and it worked perfect. I was recording HD on my computer but since it was not HDCP compatible the only channels I could record were the local broadcast channels flagged record always. If you have one of the Mitsubishi TV's that supports HDCP firewire or a HD VHS deck this stb makes sense. I am now waiting for BHN to release the SA8000HD DVR sometime in September.
post #329 of 18581
And all we wanted was to control our volume...

"WAF" -- I love it.

Which now I'm wondering why doesn't the volume contol on the cable company supplied remote adjust the volume output on the cable company supplied cable box. If it did then that problem would be solved wouldn't it? You can adjust with the buttons on the box but not with the buttons on the remote.

And another thing. I broke out my learning remote (because Barry reminded me I had one). Now I remember that the problem was that I had to switch from "CBL" to "AMP" and back each time I wanted to control volume and switch channels. The device select buttons are on the top of the remote and the vol/ch buttons on the bottom requiring two handed operation. I got to have all my the buttons I use within reach of my thumb.
I'll check out that Theater Master MX-500. http://www.remotecentral.com/mx500/
For under $100 it might be worth it. I'm a little biased against RS too and it makes me cringe to see their logo on electronics.

My current remote: http://www.remotecentral.com/vl900/
post #330 of 18581
The Theatermaster has the audio "Punch thru" capability that adjusts volume on the amp no matter what source is selected. I have an excel document I can post that maps the entire remote as a tool for planning your custom labels and macros. The models above the 500 are programmable from a PC.
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