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post #1651 of 3703
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Originally Posted by meatwad666 View Post

the following channels appear to be unencrypted for us clear QAMers: TNT, DISC, NCB, FOX, CBS, ABC

i must say i'm surprised about TNT and DISC, but very excited.

Shhhhh. Comcast folks might be reading this and encrypt them
post #1652 of 3703
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Originally Posted by meatwad666 View Post

the following channels appear to be unencrypted for us clear QAMers: TNT, DISC, NCB, FOX, CBS, ABC

i must say i'm surprised about TNT and DISC, but very excited.


Really? Care to share what digital channels you are receiving all of these on? I can't seem to find anything but the networks.
post #1653 of 3703
Im in northern Albemarle and the HD channels all come in but it still has the unauthorized for ESPN and ESPN2. . .the most important ones!!
post #1654 of 3703
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Originally Posted by mikemikeb View Post

Shhhhh. Comcast folks might be reading this and encrypt them

then why'd you quote me? i have easily redacted it.
post #1655 of 3703
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Originally Posted by pting@mindspring View Post

Really? Care to share what digital channels you are receiving all of these on? I can't seem to find anything but the networks.

on my computer they come up as 960 and 980 that was from a 7pm scan, on my TV's tuner its 98.2 and the other one isnt showing up now on it @945p....
post #1656 of 3703
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Originally Posted by QuackerBacker View Post

I'm on Avon St. Extended and I've got both ESPNS in HD (along with all the others)


Just south of Cville on 20 and I have all but HBO and the ESPNs.
post #1657 of 3703
Im new to the forum and for the first time hooked a OTA antenna up in my attic last night. I live in Stanardsville, just off of 33. According to AntennaWeb and TitanTV ...I was hoping to get what I thought were the only 3 HD OTA channels available in the Charlottesville area (PBS, ABC, NBC). Imagine my surprise when I discovered I am receiving ALL the following digital channels coming in as clear as a bell using a small Terk HDTVa amplified indoor antenna...
41-1 PBS, 29-3 CW, 29-1 NBC, 27-2 Mycville, 27-1 Fox, 19-1 CBS, 16-1 ABC.
Last night, I also got 11-1,11-2,11-3 coming in perfect (with one of them being in wonderful full widesceen HD)...but this morning, my signal really breaking up. Still, I am getting CBS, Fox, CW, and MyCville...when I didn't know they were even broadcasting..so I am not complaining. Awesome.
Now to my question: I noticed Fox's American Idol last night was in HD...but was not broadcast widescreen. The picture looked fantastic but I really noticed something was "wrong" when watching commercials that were clearly meant to be widescreen...but some of their on-screen text was actually cut off at the sides. Crazy. Anyone else notice this? Anyone else surprised when they found that Fox, CBS, CW and MyCville were now broadcasting OTA digital?

Now I just need to pick up a HD tuner card for my HTPC so I can start DVR'ing this HD content
post #1658 of 3703
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Originally Posted by RebuL View Post

Im new to the forum and for the first time hooked a OTA antenna up in my attic last night. I live in Stanardsville, just off of 33. According to AntennaWeb and TitanTV ...I was hoping to get what I thought were the only 3 HD OTA channels available in the Charlottesville area (PBS, ABC, NBC). Imagine my surprise when I discovered I am receiving ALL the following digital channels coming in as clear as a bell using a small Terk HDTVa amplified indoor antenna...
41-1 PBS, 29-3 CW, 29-1 NBC, 27-2 Mycville, 27-1 Fox, 19-1 CBS, 16-1 ABC.
Last night, I also got 11-1,11-2,11-3 coming in perfect (with one of them being in wonderful full widesceen HD)...but this morning, my signal really breaking up. Still, I am getting CBS, Fox, CW, and MyCville...when I didn't know they were even broadcasting..so I am not complaining. Awesome.
Now to my question: I noticed Fox's American Idol last night was in HD...but was not broadcast widescreen. The picture looked fantastic but I really noticed something was "wrong" when watching commercials that were clearly meant to be widescreen...but some of their on-screen text was actually cut off at the sides. Crazy. Anyone else notice this? Anyone else surprised when they found that Fox, CBS, CW and MyCville were now broadcasting OTA digital?

Now I just need to pick up a HD tuner card for my HTPC so I can start DVR'ing this HD content


Fox 27.1 out of C-ville is Digital but not yet HD. Closest Fox HD is 35.1 out of Richmond...but that will require a better/bigger antenna. With a bigger/better antenna you also ought to be able to pull in 3.1 (HD ABC), 3.2, 3.3 (SD Fox) and 3.4 from Harrisonburg via a transmitter on Massunutten; but this will require pointing your antenna in the other direction from C-Ville.

In Stanardsville you 'may' also have luck with DC channels (again with a bigger/better antenna) as I 'almost' get them from the Stoney Point area of Albemarle county.
post #1659 of 3703
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Originally Posted by RebuL View Post

Now to my question: I noticed Fox's American Idol last night was in HD...but was not broadcast widescreen. The picture looked fantastic but I really noticed something was "wrong" when watching commercials that were clearly meant to be widescreen...but some of their on-screen text was actually cut off at the sides. Crazy. Anyone else notice this? Anyone else surprised when they found that Fox, CBS, CW and MyCville were now broadcasting OTA digital?

Welcome!
Gray TV's stations have been on the air since late December (braodcast over RF 40, which is assigned to WAHU-DT).

If you were watching 27-1 last night, it was Standard Definition (SD), as are all gray TV's over the air braodcasts (16-1, 19-1, 27-1, 27-2).

Have you tried to aim your antenna towards Richmond? Fox 35 Richmond WRLH-DT is broadcast in HD.

You mentioned you have an indoor antenna, you will need an outdoor antenna to receive richmond HD, but you will find it is well worth the effort since it will be a while before Gray TV is able to broadcast CBS, FOX and ABC in HD over the air.

I talked to WVPT's engineer today, Tony, he said their 8 watt digital should approximate the viewing area of analog 50, I told him I receive 50 analog but cannot get 11 digital and he said he would come to my area and take some readings and get back to me.

He also said the 8 watts is all they are allocated since it is a repeater, and it will likely stay at 8 watts after digital transition.

If you get 50 analog but not 11 digital, let WVPT know about it.

When I put my elevation in antennaweb, it says I should get WVPT from Elliot Knob, but I have not had any luck.

Since I just have a UHF antenna, so this may be the cause. Has anyone tried to "clip-on" some rabbit ears to their 4228 to improve high VHF reception?
post #1660 of 3703
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Originally Posted by DrBri99 View Post

Welcome!
Fox 35 Richmond WRLH-DT is broadcast in HD.

You mentioned you have an indoor antenna, you will need an outdoor antenna to receive richmond HD, but you will find it is well worth the effort since it will be a while before Gray TV is able to broadcast CBS, FOX and ABC in HD over the air.

Just one quibble with this. You won't necessarily need an outdoor antenna to get the Richmond stations. Many of us in the area have antenna's (particularly the CM 4228) installed in our attics and get Richmond just fine. In theory you do loose about 50% of the signal by having the antenna indoors rather than outdoors. What will work in your particular case is an unknown until you try it. I just didn't want you to think you 'had' to go outdoors to have a shot at Richmond...though it may turn out that you do.
post #1661 of 3703
Excellent! Thanks for the info. I'll have to do some experimenting with trying to reach Richmond. If I cant get it...then I think a larger antenna may be in my future (gotta have my Jack Bauer 24 fix).
Thats an embarrassing mistake on my part (thinking American Idol on Fox 27.1 was in HD.) It sure was the cleanest looking SD that I've seen. I admit that my opinions are influenced by being subjected to such low quality SD for pretty much my entire life. The improvement of the digital channel was quite impressive for that show in particular. It looked much sharper than Seinfeld and other shows that were on before it (which is what led me to believe it may be HD). And the small logo in the corner looked very well defined.
Is it normal that few of the commercials on digital Fox27.1 are cut off at the sides during American Idol? Its as if they were 16:9 commercials being cropped to 3:4. Half of the on-screen text was sliced off screen.
post #1662 of 3703
has there been any widescreen HD content on comcast ABC since the oscars?
post #1663 of 3703
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Originally Posted by meatwad666 View Post

has there been any widescreen HD content on comcast ABC since the oscars?

I would just like to thank the good people at Comcast for bringing us "According to Jim" in glorious HD, then screwing it up for "Lost." Bravo. Way to handle a product rollout. I'm sure you're making your new customers confident in the quality of the service being provided.
post #1664 of 3703
Some info and a couple questions.

I came home yesterday to find that all of the new channels on my lineup. ESPN/ESPN2 didn't work, so i called Comcast. They said it was $5/month for ESPN/ESPN2/TNT/DSC. They offered me the package for $2.50/month for the first three months so i went ahead and got it just to check everything out. ESPN/ESPN2 came on immediately when thye said they would.

So now i seem to have most things working, except 2 premium channels (HBO and SHO which i didn't expect to work) and 2 regular channels (ABC and CBS).

ABC is very garbled and doesn't have any program data.
CBS hasn't worked since around when they cut Fox HD on.

The other channels are crystal clear, good sound, and only the occasional (like 1 second in 3 hours of watching) pixelation/garbling issues. So i find it odd that those 2 aren't working.

Anyone have any info that could help me?

Thanks in advance.
post #1665 of 3703
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Originally Posted by tlmii View Post

Some info and a couple questions.

I came home yesterday to find that all of the new channels on my lineup. ESPN/ESPN2 didn't work, so i called Comcast. They said it was $5/month for ESPN/ESPN2/TNT/DSC. They offered me the package for $2.50/month for the first three months so i went ahead and got it just to check everything out. ESPN/ESPN2 came on immediately when thye said they would.

So now i seem to have most things working, except 2 premium channels (HBO and SHO which i didn't expect to work) and 2 regular channels (ABC and CBS).

Anyone have any info that could help me?

Thanks in advance.

ESPN/ESPN2 were not working for me until yesterday when I called Comcast and they reset my box from their end, and I unplugged my box for a minute or so and plugged it back in. ESPN/ESPN2 worked after that. HBO still doesn't work but I get program info when I tune to that station...just no image. Comcast said there may be an issue with the signal since all others were working. Still no HD from ABC at all for me but I do get the SD image on the HD station. No program data for ABC. Most importantly, I am not paying to see ESPN/2, TNT, DISCHD etc and the rep I spoke to said there was no charge for these stations. Literally seems to change every time I call. I'd call back and get some clarification, they clearly haven't sorted it all out yet.

Good luck....
post #1666 of 3703
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Originally Posted by RebuL View Post

Is it normal that few of the commercials on digital Fox27.1 are cut off at the sides during American Idol? Its as if they were 16:9 commercials being cropped to 3:4. Half of the on-screen text was sliced off screen.

I have noticed this when watching CSI on CBS-19 on DISH Network. It seems like maybe Gray Television is feeding the HD (16:9) source to DISH, and they're just chopping the edges off. At least someone along the way before it gets to my TV is chopping the edges. It actually happens during the show as well (not just commercials) ... because only the left half of the CBS logo is visible.

I am one (of the few?) who is still eagerly awaiting Charlottesville's ABC, CBS, and FOX broadcast in HD OTA. I'm not ready to sacrifice the great picture quality of the majority of channels on DISH to jump to Comcast for the few HD channels that are available.
post #1667 of 3703
Just talked to a Comcast Rep. . .gave me ESPN and ESPN2 HD for free (unauthorized for the past 3 days) and said they woudnt be charging for those channels anymore.


Clemson vs. FSU looked grainy at certain angles. . .

sigh
post #1668 of 3703
New to the thread, reading for a few months ...

I thought I'd ask for help in completing this list of clear QAM options for Charlottesville Comcast subscribers:

MTV TR3S ------- 72.2
??????? ????????? 76.8
NBC-HD WVIR 29--79.1 704
FOX-HD WAHU 27-79.4 709
CBS-SD WCAV 19-80.1
CBS-HD WCAV 19-80.2 706
ABC-HD WVAW 16 80.3 703
Discovery-HD ---- 96.1 778
TNT-HD --------- 98.2 775

Can anyone add to the list, fill in the programming for 76.8, or say where to find ESPN-HD and ESPN-HD2? I'd appreciate any help you can lend.
post #1669 of 3703
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Originally Posted by Sandwichmaker View Post

New to the thread, reading for a few months ...

I thought I'd ask for help in completing this list of clear QAM options for Charlottesville Comcast subscribers:

MTV TR3S ------- 72.2
??????? ????????? 76.8
NBC-HD WVIR 29--79.1 704
FOX-HD WAHU 27-79.4 709
CBS-SD WCAV 19-80.1
CBS-HD WCAV 19-80.2 706
ABC-HD WVAW 16 80.3 703
Discovery-HD ---- 96.1 778
TNT-HD --------- 98.2 775

Can anyone add to the list, fill in the programming for 76.8, or say where to find ESPN-HD and ESPN-HD2? I'd appreciate any help you can lend.

76.8 appears to be the Movie Channel. Odd that it is coming through on clear QAM.

Strange that a channel scan with my Tivo Series 3 (which functions as my QAM tuner) does not show Discovery at 96.1 or TNT at 98.2 --- I can get these stations by manually tuning to channel 0 (zero), but it seems that the signal for both channels are carried on channel 0 (I get Discovery if channel changing UP to channel 0, I get TNT if channel changing DOWN to channel 0)

...and no sign of either ESPN station here.
post #1670 of 3703
With my TiVo S3 with non-working Cablecards, I'm able to get the four networks and TNT HD. No ESPNs or Discovery even though I have guide data for them. I'm about to step up my noisemaking to get somebody that can help me get my CableCards working.

Here's an article discussing Comcast's customer service which is pretty much dead-on:

http://www.pronetadvertising.com/art...-bad-buzz.html

Looks like I'll be sending a letter off to the Consumerist now.
post #1671 of 3703
Is anyone getting WVAW in HD? Sorry, forgot to add via comcast. Also, no ESPN2 in HD for me this PM.
post #1672 of 3703
There was probably no ESPN2 tonight because the game it was scheduled to show was the Virginia-NCState game. As 29 had first dibs, I believe it was blacked out on ESPN2.
post #1673 of 3703
cbs and abc were basically unwatchable tonite on cable. OTA was fine for both channels so must have been something in the comcast system.
post #1674 of 3703
I noticed the national NBC HD broadcast of the Bruins vs. Wings was only SD out of WRC-DT in DC, so I flipped the input and noticed it was HD out of Richmond, Detroit and Seattle. However, I was surprised to see that WVIR-DT has replaced NBC's national broadcast schedule with ACC basketball...from UPN no less.

http://www.nbcsports.com/download/2007/0307/1175209.pdf

This is a very disappointing effort by WVIR-DT. It's no wonder so many people are upset with their local broadcasters when they do something like this...
post #1675 of 3703
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Originally Posted by riffjim4069 View Post


This is a very disappointing effort by WVIR-DT. It's no wonder so many people are upset with their local broadcasters when they do something like this...

Why would anyone be upset w/WVIR? I'm thrilled that the ACC tourney is being broadcast in HD here. They're one of only 2 stations in the state doing so. Nobody in Richmond, NOVA or Hampton Roads is getting the tourney in HD, which tells me that WVIR actually cares about HD viewers, despite what I'm sure are prohibitive costs for broadcasting syndicated programming in HD. As for hockey being preempted, hockey is always going to lose out to ACC sports in this area. Nothing against the NHL, but I'm sure WVIR is getting about 1000 times more viewers for the ACC tourney final than they would for a regular season NHL game.
post #1676 of 3703
i sure hope ABC and FOX in c'ville get their act together for HD or maybe it's a comcast issue. Neither ABC or FOX on comcast is in HD today or yesterday. But OTA from Richmond is. Glad i have richmond stations to fall back on.

Hopefully comcast or the c'ville stations will get it fixed soon.
post #1677 of 3703
wvir can do as it pleases, i'm just glad that they're broadcasting friday night's normal line up overnight tonight (2-4am) so i can capture a recording of las vegas.
post #1678 of 3703
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Originally Posted by tmcck View Post

i sure hope ABC and FOX in c'ville get their act together for HD or maybe it's a comcast issue. Neither ABC or FOX on comcast is in HD today or yesterday. But OTA from Richmond is. Glad i have richmond stations to fall back on.

Hopefully comcast or the c'ville stations will get it fixed soon.

fox is hardly as bad as ABC, most of the prime time lineup has been in fullHD from comcast (at least for prisonbreak, house, american idol, etc.)
post #1679 of 3703
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Originally Posted by meatwad666 View Post

fox is hardly as bad as ABC, most of the prime time lineup has been in fullHD from comcast (at least for prisonbreak, house, american idol, etc.)


yeah they usually get the primtime lineup right. but there's a race and NBA b'ball on now that is in SD rather than HD.
post #1680 of 3703
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Originally Posted by QuackerBacker View Post

Nobody in Richmond, NOVA or Hampton Roads is getting the tourney in HD

Actually, NOVA viewers can get the games in HD via WDCA-DT, although the games don't look that great in some peoples' eyes.
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