Waco / Bryan, TX - HDTV - Page 211

KWKT is operating at full licensed power and having no issues.

Found last night that Suddenlink added 3 new HD channels; VS, TBS, and Golf. Scanning through the guide, it looks as if VS has a very limited amount of actual HD programming. All the golf that's worth watching is already in HD on other networks. Don't know much about TBS. Where's the CW in HD?

vs doesn't have a whole lot..... mostly sports in hd which they do not have much of atm.

I agree with you on golf channel..... only watched it once when one of the tourny's ran over their time so they finished it on golf channel

The CW will come whenever kbtx gets off their ass and upgrades. I'm not expecting it anytime soon.

Power failure at KWKT Waco studio at 11:45 AM, Monday, June 21st.
Generator failed at 12:30 PM. Backup power system batteries died at 1:00 PM.
KWKT & KYLE were off-air from 1:00 PM to 3:02 PM when power was restored.
Failure of KYLE HD switching delay caused FOX to be SD on KYLE Monday night.

Repaired the system this morning and KYLE will be HD in Prime tonight (Tuesday).

Yeah, but they show Bloodsport all the time

Does anyone else here use Windows Media Center to pickup channel 6 KCEN? They did some equipment upgrades last week and it is no longer working in Media Center. I did some digging with TSReader i I think the issue is in there data stream. It reports that the channel is broadcasting on channel 50. I have called the station and emailed but haven't got much fixed.



Does anyone have other any suggestions?

Their TSID information is correct. The station does not transmit its channel number along with the TSID, only the TSID itself. That channel information you've circled comes from a list internal to TSReader and is very, VERY outdated.

What has changed, however, is their PID structure. Note in the left-hand panel how Program 4 has 0x0041 and 0x0044 assigned to it. The last TSReader data I saw from KCEN had those streams on 0x0033 and 0x0035, and if MCE was looking for those, that could be choking it. Here's the capture which dates to last August. http://www.rabbitears.info/screencap.../10245-0_0.htm

(Technically speaking, the 0x0033/0x0035 arrangement did NOT conform to normal PID assignment practices.)

Also, check that the Source ID between Programs 3 and 4 are different, as in, one is 3 and the other is 4, or something like that.

I'm also curious as to what 0x1388 is.

Finally, a favor to ask, would you be willing to capture me some HTML Exports on the various stations you receive? I can provide detailed instructions if you are willing to do so. I'd be much appreciative.

- Trip

Here is the local channel info from TSReader for all the locals. If you could checkout the channel 6 info and give me some more advice that would be great. I'm not sure if its as issue with the station or Media Center. Talking to the engineer this week he did tell me they replace some equipment last week and corrected some errors.


Thanks
Alton

Updated and Fix Attachment

 

Channel Info.zip 25.30078125k . file

Unfortunately, those are all empty. In the Export dialog box, you need to check the various boxes at the bottom of the window. I'd say to click on Select All or whatever that button says, then uncheck EIT and Thumbnails.

Glad to help.

- Trip

I fixed the original post

Is it both 6-1 and 6-2 that are giving you issues, or just one or the other?

- Trip

Neither work, on 2 different PC's plus I know of 2 other Media Center users with the same issue. I know Media Center can be really picky with OTA signals.

I see a potential problem. Not sure if it's causing your issue, but it's definitely wrong.

That 0x1388 that I saw before is identified in the PMT as an audio stream, and the bitrate on it suggests that it's an audio stream, but the analysis in the Usage area shows it as part of the EIT data (used for the program guide). Something is definitely wrong there, though I don't know what.

- Trip

Also, in the HTML capture you just posted, their TSID is now 1 and not the number you'd shown in the picture. That could be causing your issues too.

- Trip

Should I just email the engineer that or you think its something MS needs to update with Media Center? KCEN says they will help but they claim to not see any problems.

Both problems are things the engineer needs to look at. I'd send that HTML Export in your e-mail, tell him to check that the TSID is being transmitted consistently and that PID 0x1388 is assigned to the EIT and not to an audio stream, unless it is an audio stream, in which case part of the EIT is missing.

I don't know if either of those will resolve your issue, but they're definitely problems. I don't think I see anything else wrong.

- Trip

Thanks I really appreciate the help! I'l let you know what KCEN has to say.

I'm not receiving the KCEN HD signal on Suddenlink in Bryan. Earlier today, 23.1 went black, and later I started to receive the KYLE HD signal on 23.1. Rescanned the channels and 23.1 is no longer there. However, KRHD HD is now on 25.1 instead of 91.720 where it was before. Any idea what's going on?

I talked to them for over a week with no luck, maybe since your in the "business" they will listen to you. Assuming it their issues and not Microsoft.

I tried my media center last night and it was fine..... but I also use suddenlink clear qam.

KYLE (28) is off the air due to a total loss of power at the transmitter site.
Thieves started the power transformer on fire attempting to remove the copper wiring from the pole to the building complex.
I have no idea when repairs will be completed.

Is that the SD kyle, HD kyle or both? That does suck that fox will be dark for a while. Hopefully the police find those responsible.

There is only one KYLE transmitter
28.1 (FOX HD) is the primary video stream.
KYLE also broadcasts Estrella (28.2) on the secondary digital stream.

Suddenlink down-converts the FOX HD signal for their SD channel.

I'd be curious to know from someone in the BCS area if KRHD has fired up their digital transmitter. If so, do they map to 40.1, 2, 3 or do they map to 25.1, 2, 3. I have seen both. I can occasionally get KXXV-DT at my house in Plano. I noticed last night they ID their Telemundo channel as 26.2 and 40.2. (even though the Telemundo station is mapped to 25.2)

KWKT & KYLE are now airing the following programming in HD:

6 PM Two & 1/2 Men
6:30 PM Two & 1/2 Men
7-9 PM FOX Network
9PM FOX News @ 9
9:10PM The Office
9:40PM The Office
12AM George Lopez
12:30AM Everybody Loves Raymond
1-3AM My Network (Delayed)

Weekends - All of the above except News at various times.

I have the same issue. Have you been able to resolve it?

The channel 50 information in TSReader is from an old TSReader database.
The RF channel number does not exist in the PSIP tables.
The frequency reading in the PSIP tables is required to be zero by FCC rule.
The original FCC digital allocation for KCEN (Virtual 6) was channel 50.
They petitioned the FCC to change to channel 9 and that change was approved.
The original channel 50 was filed on and approved for KBTX (Virtual 3) in Bryan.
The issue that you are having relates to the station's TSID value being incorrect.
I tried to inform them of the error but the Chief Engineer I knew is no longer there.

And those of us in the Dallas-Ft. Worth market who suffer interference on co-channel KFWD from KCEN even during the slightest tropo are still puzzled about how and why this change was approved.

There are nights when I try to watch the WFAA news replay on KFWD and get absolutely nothing on KFWD. Inevitably on those nights, I can tune to RF-10 and get KWTX, indicating that Waco/Temple signals are pounding in.

More than likely your interference is a result of adjacent channel from KWTX on 10 rather than co-channel from KCEN on 9.

KCEN operates at a much lower power level than KFWD and they would have to be coming in 10 DB higher to cause co-channel interference.

I have a Scala quad cut channel 28 antenna with a Citgo channel 28 preamp 120 ft up on the STL tower in Waco to receive our KYLE 50KW in Bryan and when tropo is active the FOX 29 in Beaumont wipes it out.

KFWD still operates at 13 kW. The 55 kW facility, although approved, has not yet been built and is unlikely to be built anytime soon.

According to FCC records, KCEN runs 25 kW.

If KWTX were the culprit of the QRM, would it not also impact co-channel KTVT on RF-11?

On those nights when KFWD is lost at my location (40 miles north of Cedar Hill), KTVT is still 5 by 5.