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post #2911 of 3347
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

No offense but you're insane. You'd rather have 20 channels at 480i and ~ 1Mbps than 5 channels at 480i and ~4 mbps? Most of those 20 are going to be garbage. That's the problem with cable. Hundreds of channels most of it garbage. And you want OTA to copy that idea?

Well, at least it would quarantine all of that stuff to its own broadcaster.

If the network affiliates have less 480i streams available and less reason to degrade their HD programming, then that is a good thing in my book. My weekend sports programming is not degraded. People who think that “more crap channels = better DTV” get what they want. Everybody wins.

I peek in on WPGD from time to time, and their 5-way split is bad enough. I hate to think about the quality of what WANN is pumping out. It must look like crap even on the smallest of screens.
post #2912 of 3347
not insane at all... and neither is Mr Luken...

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/2...tv-translators
post #2913 of 3347
Their 5 way split is not bad at all.. i just dont watch their programming.
With AM DEAD in every major market except maybe St Louis... Renting out subchannels for daytimers and other am's would be a viable alternative to FM translators which seem to be popping up everywhere... Put 5 or so tv subchannels on, and rent out a bunch of subchannels for am's and community low power part15's.. be great...
post #2914 of 3347
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Originally Posted by retrostation View Post
not insane at all... and neither is Mr Luken...

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/2...tv-translators
Yes it is. If I want to watch crappy video quality I'd be doing it. You'd rather have no HD via OTA if that means 20+ subchannels on one channel? Exactly what coudl you put on those 20 channels? How many differnt channels need to show Green Acres? Go get the DVD set. It would be a bit differnernt if cbale chanels were broadcasting their stuf via OTA.
post #2915 of 3347
The market will determine the viability of such stations and I have no problem with the market being tested with such.

As I've said before, I'm totally amazed at how blind some folks are as to the low quality they will suffer with. Seriously, I walked in guys house and he was watching a football game on cable channel 5 on his 47" HDTV in strech mode (fugly). He didn't even realize it wasn't high definition.

There's likely a place for some of this stuff. I'm enjoying a couple old series on ThisTV right now (Highway Patrol & Outer Limits).

But, I'm not going to watch a standard def movie anymore, or even a HiDef movie if it has been edited.

I can afford to and enjoy watching movies so I'll spring for premium cable channels but I realize that everyone has different desires.

More power to them and let choices reign supreme.
post #2916 of 3347
right... remember we are in a depression, contrary to what some economists would say, so if you can afford a nice big screen, premium HD sat and cable, by all means go for it.
OTA is for the public interest, convenience and necessity. I would have no problem with all OTA channels with 10 plus subchannels with lower quality if it meant more choices for the consumer. The FCC seems to be in the mindset of anticipating the death of OTA anyway... they have forgotten their original mandate. Let's enjoy all these channels while we can.. I remember growing up in the 70's with two viewable channels in east tennessee dreaming of a day when I could get at least all the networks.. now the capablitiy is there for a multitude of special interest programming i.e. France 24 on WANN. (much better than CNN btw) Mr Luken has 10 services in the works? I pray he is successful. Would love to see antennatv and me tv here as well...
post #2917 of 3347
Well, if you think THIS is a depression, maybe you are insane. LOL

Seriously, this ain't a depression. Afterall, I still have a job.
post #2918 of 3347
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Originally Posted by retrostation View Post

right... remember we are in a depression, contrary to what some economists would say, so if you can afford a nice big screen, premium HD sat and cable, by all means go for it.
OTA is for the public interest, convenience and necessity. I would have no problem with all OTA channels with 10 plus subchannels with lower quality if it meant more choices for the consumer....

What do you expect on all those subchannels? It's not like cable chanels are going to broadcast OTA. Let's assume you're local, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, MY NETORK, CW and ION station all had 10 subchannels and throw in one pure independant. That's 80 subcahnnels. What could possibly be put on there?
post #2919 of 3347
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Originally Posted by Steve52 View Post

Does anyone know when WTVF goes to channel 25 what power they will be transmitting on that channel? 1000 kw I hope!

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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

Yes 1000 kW but it's also directional to a some degree. According to the FCC website their service contour is nearly the same as WPGD. So in Camden I'll actually have less of chance getting WTVF on channel 25 than I do channel 5.

And what would that be? I'm quite a ways NW of town and can only get 5 sporadically on some mornings with a directional antenna. I may have a better chance on 25 to see Amy Watson?

I'm also having trouble following the timeline ...... will they be on 25 now, in a few weeks, or a year or two?
post #2920 of 3347
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Originally Posted by confuzzled View Post

And what would that be? I'm quite a ways NW of town and can only get 5 sporadically on some mornings with a directional antenna. I may have a better chance on 25 to see Amy Watson?

TVfool report would help. As I said their service countour appears to be the same as WPGD to me in my particular situation. Who knows how it will actually play out or it is from your location.

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I'm also having trouble following the timeline ...... will they be on 25 now, in a few weeks, or a year or two?

Thier request is "officially" approved on July 11th. From that date they have 45 days to submit a CP( Construction Permit ) for ch 25 to the FCC. After that they have 3 years to build the ch 25 facilities. How long they will actually take who knows. My guess will be sooner rather than later. Perhaps fall but that would be just a guest.
post #2921 of 3347
I recently bought a HDHR dual network tuner and connected it to my network with a Linksys powerline adapter. I have a Clearstream 1 antenna about 12' in the air outside. It's a simple setup and I'm really pleased at how good of a signal I'm getting on 2, 4, 5, 17, 28, 30 and 58. I'm in the Belle Meade area so am not far out, but have several tall houses and trees around.

My only issue is channel 8. TV Fool shows I'm only 3.9 miles from 8 but it is vhf and the Clearstream 1 is a UHF antenna so not too surprising though I'm getting 5 OK on it's vhf signals. I've adjusted the antenna to get as good as I can but I really need just a bit better to be happy. Any ideas of what I can do to just slightly improve my channel 8 signal on a budget? This is more a principal thing than a budget thing. Gotta prove something to my wife. LOL
post #2922 of 3347
You're likely receiving channel 5 off their UHF-50 100K translator.

All you have to do is add a high-VHF dipole to the C1 via a UVSJ - that should fix your channel 8 issue.
post #2923 of 3347
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Originally Posted by ADTech View Post

You're likely receiving channel 5 off their UHF-50 100K translator.

All you have to do is add a high-VHF dipole to the C1 via a UVSJ - that should fix your channel 8 issue.

I've segregated 5's signals in WMC and am getting a good signal on both 5 and 50. Yeah, I'm kind of surprised I'm getting 5 as well as I am but, not complaining.

Your suggestion was going to be my next step. Cost around $20 so it is pocket change. Just clamp a cheap vhf dipole to the mast and use a uhf/vhf combiner. Before trying I was just considering other possible ideas. I've made sure my cable is as short and straight as possible and mast is steady/solid. 90% of the time the picture is fine. But I'm getting some pixelation every now and then.
post #2924 of 3347
Viewers who watch locals through satellite are SOL for tonight's fireworks. According the the Daily Disgrace, WKRN is carrying it at 9:30PM on their WX subchannel. Unless they've hired an HD truck it will be in SD since they don't have local live HD origination capability.

Added: No mention of fireworks over the air telecast anywhere on 2's website. Only on cable. Maybe the disgrace was wrong, as usual.
post #2925 of 3347
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Originally Posted by ADTech View Post

All you have to do is add a high-VHF dipole to the C1 via a UVSJ - that should fix your channel 8 issue.

That is what I wound up doing and 8 is now a solid reception. Before I was barely getting any signal for 7. Now, I'm getting it in the mid 50s (signal strength). While I really haven't even tried for 7 before this, now I want to add them to my lineup. LOL. Guess I'd better wrap some aluminum foil around the dipole tips.
post #2926 of 3347
Just saw a commercial about WZTV/Fox 17 being "under construction" and there will be a local HD newscast sometime soon, anyone else see that commercial?
post #2927 of 3347
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Originally Posted by T_N_T View Post

Just saw a commercial about WZTV/Fox 17 being "under construction" and there will be a local HD newscast sometime soon, anyone else see that commercial?

They are going all HD as soon as construction is complete. Been working on it for about a month. 4 is also working on a new set and 2 is currently working on a new set and going all HD.
post #2928 of 3347
meanwhile....
for the semi annual update on WIIW, seems they have added sound to their colorbars. A nice high pitched alert type tone...much more interesting.



Any more word on the move to UHF for WRTN?
Or the CP for WETV-CA in Murfreesboro? They were supposed to go digital a long time ago but have not...
post #2929 of 3347
Any more word on the move to UHF for WRTN?


Last email from Goetz said they were still waiting on funding from Daystar who, apparently, is having some financial problems of their own.

post #2930 of 3347
hi all

I live in clarksville, tn 35 mile from the nashville antenna source

I am thinking of buying a Winegard HD 9095P with a winegard ap-8700 amp.

I own a channel master 2016 with a cheap rca preamp mounted on the outside of the house.
I only receive channel 2,17 (at 35-45 % power) in summer and
channel 2,17,30,50 in winter at 65-75 % power.
we have very tall tress in clarksville.
Luckly channel 5 (wtvf) is going soon to 1000kw full
power license on real channel 25.

i do not care about any vhf channel

just want to improve my ufh
Channel 2,5 (25 new),17.30,58

any suggestion or help would be high appreciated
kurt b.

or is their any better antenna i can use
my budget is no more than $300

thanks all
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post #2931 of 3347
A) We really need a tvfool result

B) you should be posting in the Nashville OTA thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...391433&page=98

WSMV NBC is on VHF-Hi channel 10. You don't care about getting that in?

EDIT: I saw your pic had the street names on it so I did a tvfool look up. How high do you have the antenna up now? It seems anything over 10 feet should be good to go.
post #2932 of 3347
tv fool set

tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d3e47b508de05d7

no i do not watch channel 4 or 8

sorry about the wrong site post

but i am 75 miles form nashville

and 35 miles fom tne antenna site
post #2933 of 3347
channel master on side of house

10 feet with a jmast
post #2934 of 3347
Topics merged.
post #2935 of 3347
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Originally Posted by kurtbrwn View Post

channel master on side of house

10 feet with a jmast

Try raising it a couple of feet at a time if you can and see if that helps.
post #2936 of 3347
Anyone able to get programing guide data for WRTN through Windows Media Center? I'm using WMC in Windows 7 and am striking out on subchannels .4 and .5. Even .2 is an hour off.
post #2937 of 3347
I get the guide for WRTN and even WLLC on media center but of course i cannot receive the channels.... wish dish would pick up WRTN but that will never happen...
just waiting for the switch to uhf and maybe i can get them in lavergne...
post #2938 of 3347
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Originally Posted by retrostation View Post

I get the guide for WRTN ...

Are you getting it for all 5 channels? I'm just getting 1-3 but not 4 & 5.


Also, anyone having reception issues with WKRN (2). I'm getting severe pixelaton over both of my antennas, one going to my TiVo and the other to my HDHomeRun and WMC. I think it was fine last night but has been bad since early morning.

EDIT: whatever the problem was for WKRN, it has cleare up for me now. Excellent picture once again from both antennas.
post #2939 of 3347
Ever since they put .6 on there I can't get .4. Emailed Goetz about it and said he would check into it. It shows up as captured when I scan on Directv but will not show up on my favorites list. I'm stumped. Anyone know anything else I could try?
post #2940 of 3347
anyone know about the cp for the translator station for nashville for the low power digital in white house??? its a budd broadcasting station.. that might say it all...
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