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post #3001 of 3519
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Originally Posted by kbuke View Post

Just found out...WBBJ is also adding 7.4, which will be Me-TV! I have wanted Nashville to pick this up for months! They may be a small market station but at least they are listening to what viewers want.

Great even more signal degradation. Not only will CBS not be in HD it will look even crappier or they are taking away bandwidth from the main HD channel thus ruing that picture.
post #3002 of 3519
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

Great even more signal degradation. Not only will CBS not be in HD it will look even crappier or they are taking away bandwidth from the main HD channel thus ruing that picture.

I guess we are still on different pages with this, but I still consider it a matter of CHOICE. For so long, the Nashville stations, with their big "We'll show what we please ota," attitude, have held us in bondage. Now, with affiliate choices on the other side of my antenna, I am free to watch, on wbbj, anything I want on CBS, ABC, ME-TV, and hopefully soon, NBC (if they will switch from LD to full power) because bbj rarely preempts or moves network programming. As far as signal degradation goes, yes, I love HD, but will gladly watch bbj if the opportunity is there because the Nashville stations choose to run their station the way they want because they can afford to lose money if they don't go with an affiliate program. Not dissing your opinion man, just a different one for me.
post #3003 of 3519
Can't ever have enough choices in the digital age - 1000 channels isn't enough. I'm pumped

Have you ever considered what it is like being a pro or college football fan in a city where the stations are putting out bad HD. NFL football is the highest rated programming being broadcast over the air today and to make it look good, you need a lot of bandwidth.

I like classic TV too but if MeTV never makes it to Nashville, I'm ok with it since that type of programming can be watched online or on DVD. But if the OTA picture ever goes to crap here, local sports fans are screwed because of exclusive rights.
post #3004 of 3519
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Originally Posted by McTNN View Post

I like classic TV too but if MeTV never makes it to Nashville, I'm ok with it since that type of programming can be watched online or on DVD. But if the OTA picture ever goes to crap here, local sports fans are screwed because of exclusive rights.

I totally agree, but why buy DVD or (sometimes) pay for an online program when you have it all in one place? Like you, I am definitely pumped about the choices!
post #3005 of 3519
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Originally Posted by kbuke View Post

I guess we are still on different pages with this, but I still consider it a matter of CHOICE. For so long, the Nashville stations, with their big "We'll show what we please ota," attitude, have held us in bondage. Now, with affiliate choices on the other side of my antenna, I am free to watch, on wbbj, anything I want on CBS, ABC, ME-TV,

Yeah we are of different sides because you can get in WKRN rather easily so it doesn't matter if ABC programing on WBBJ looks like crap. As I said CBS will be SD. I would prefer a CBS station in Jackson on it's own frequency. WLJT the PBS station in Jackson has a HD main channel and 2 SD subchannels and I can tell you the quality of all of them is crap.

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and hopefully soon, NBC (if they will switch from LD to full power) because bbj rarely preempts or moves network programming.

They are a LP not LD. They are ANALOG not digital. Don't expect them to go digital or FP anytime soon. They aren't even on the air. And they don't even plan on using their maximum power allowance. So I won't be able to get them in Camden so I know you won't get them in McEwen

Me-TV would have been fine on WBBJ is they hadn't already had plans for CBS. ME-TV is old shows to SD quality is fine for that. The ability of seeing-runs of That Girl is not worth the quality loss on the main HD channel.
post #3006 of 3519
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Originally Posted by kbuke View Post

I totally agree, but why buy DVD or (sometimes) pay for an online program when you have it all in one place? Like you, I am definitely pumped about the choices!

Yes why buy something only YOU want. Let's give it to you for free at the expense of others. Sounds great. Hey if someone wants to buy a station in Jackson an set up ME-TV, Antenna TV and RTV and give them 6 Mbps bitrate( which is far better than the 2.5-3.5 bitrate they'll be getting now ) I'd be 100% behind that. But I'm not for more old TV shows at the expense of HDTV.
post #3007 of 3519
I have suddenly lost NewsChannel5. Anyone else having a problem? I'm not getting pixalation or anything, just blackness.
post #3008 of 3519
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Originally Posted by VanderClay View Post

I have suddenly lost NewsChannel5. Anyone else having a problem? I'm not getting pixalation or anything, just blackness.

The main channel or the subchannel?
post #3009 of 3519
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

The main channel or the subchannel?

Neither. I rarely receive VHF 5 and usually pull in UHF 50 (or vice versa). It's frustrating because it's the only local channel I have trouble with. Usually when it won't come in I get at least some pixalation, but I'm suddenly getting zilch. In fact, my Samsung UN46D6500 doesn't map a 5.1/5.2/5.3 after trying to rescan.
post #3010 of 3519
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Originally Posted by VanderClay View Post

Neither. I rarely receive VHF 5 and usually pull in UHF 50 (or vice versa). It's frustrating because it's the only local channel I have trouble with. Usually when it won't come in I get at least some pixalation, but I'm suddenly getting zilch. In fact, my Samsung UN46D6500 doesn't map a 5.1/5.2/5.3 after trying to rescan.

Well you don't state your location. If you live in a weak signal area then it's not going to be unusual to have times where it doesn't come in. Also WTVF was using 50 as a tranlator and they had tempory permission to broadcast at 100 kW. Maybe the FCC pulled that permission. If so they an only broadcast at 15 kW on channel 50. Of coruse they were moving to channel 25 so maybe they are shutting down channel 50 ahead of that. Who knows?
post #3011 of 3519
I'm about 30 miles west in White Bluff 37187. I have a Channel Master in the attic. I've emailed the Engineer at NC5. We'll see what they say.
post #3012 of 3519
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Originally Posted by VanderClay View Post

I'm about 30 miles west in White Bluff 37187. I have a Channel Master in the attic. I've emailed the Engineer at NC5. We'll see what they say.

I know wher that is. I can see why 50 is iffy but 5 should come in real good. You would just need a VHF antenna. which channnel master?
post #3013 of 3519
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Originally Posted by VanderClay View Post

I have suddenly lost NewsChannel5. Anyone else having a problem? I'm not getting pixalation or anything, just blackness.

I had trouble with both last week during the rain. Usually CH. 5 comes in at or near 100% for me though. Can't figure out why they haven't switched over to 25 yet though.
post #3014 of 3519
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Originally Posted by kbuke View Post

I had trouble with both last week during the rain. Usually CH. 5 comes in at or near 100% for me though. Can't figure out why they haven't switched over to 25 yet though.

They beg for permission to change get it fairly quickly then take their sweet time changing. Doesn't matter thanks to their brilliant idea of using a directional antenna I won't be able to get it in reliably anyways.
post #3015 of 3519
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

They beg for permission to change get it fairly quickly then take their sweet time changing. Doesn't matter thanks to their brilliant idea of using a directional antenna I won't be able to get it in reliably anyways.

WLJT did the same thing to me when they switched. I used to get it nearly perfectly in analog but when the digital switch happened they lopped off the northeast section, stopping at Camden. I can't even get it on skip now. Absolutely ridiculous!
post #3016 of 3519
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Originally Posted by kbuke View Post

WLJT did the same thing to me when they switched. I used to get it nearly perfectly in analog but when the digital switch happened they lopped off the northeast section, stopping at Camden. I can't even get it on skip now. Absolutely ridiculous!

Doesn't even reach Camden reliably. It's 282 kW has an eff power of 4.276 kW because of their antenna direction. At 282 kW I'm sure I wouldn't have much issues getting it in. If I'm lucky I can get it in at night. Even that takes effort. WBBJ tower is 5 miles futher away but it's signal follows the SAME path as WLJT to my house( I'm talking within 0.01 degrees ) yet I can get in WBBJ with a simple loop antenna indoors. WLJT maybe a DB4 mounted 15-20 feet up I can watch at night. Maybe. My tax dollars help fund PBS and yet I can't get OTA access to any PBS stations reliably. That's just messed up. And it's not like they are 80 miles away. WJLT is 38 miles an WKMU is 49 miles. WNAB is 75 miles away and perhaps the most "reliable" of the 3. They wouldn't be much of an issue coming in if they would not broadcast at a meager 18 kW on RF 8.
post #3017 of 3519
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Originally Posted by kbuke View Post

I had trouble with both last week during the rain. Usually CH. 5 comes in at or near 100% for me though. Can't figure out why they haven't switched over to 25 yet though.

Got it back last night through UHF50. I've never been able to get VHF5. I have a CM3018 in the attic.
post #3018 of 3519
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Originally Posted by VanderClay View Post

Got it back last night through UHF50. I've never been able to get VHF5. I have a CM3018 in the attic.

Hmmm that antenna should work for RF 5 which is by far your strongest channel.
post #3019 of 3519
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Originally Posted by kbuke View Post

I totally agree, but why buy DVD or (sometimes) pay for an online program when you have it all in one place? Like you, I am definitely pumped about the choices!

Free tv is good but watching on dvd is better in a lot of ways:

With dvd's, you get to see the entire 25 minute episode and not the edited version shown on television.

No commercials

dvd picture quality is better than most subchannels.

Extras of all sorts - commentary, vintage commercials, retrospectives etc.

By purchasing the dvd's, you support companies like Shout Factory that release these classic shows for fans

But most important, you own the dvd's forever and can enjoy a particular episode anytime and are not dependent on the whims of programmers. No one knows if MeTV will even exist in five years or in what form. They could ditch the current schedule next week and switch to reality programming.

Season sets really aren't that expensive if you buy them on sale. There's no telling how many I own, maybe a couple of hundred and I continue to buy more even though many of the same shows can now be watched online.
post #3020 of 3519
Just a bit of info about Me-TV on WBBJ. It is not going to be on a new subchannel. Me-TV programming will be shown when CBS or syndicated content is not showing on 7.3

The television station will broadcast CBS programing over its virtual channel 7.3, now the weather radar channel. It will broadcast all CBS programming, including CBS sports. The local TV station will run shows from MeTV when CBS or syndicated programing is not available, Thing said. MeTV programs will run until at least September.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20...xt%7CFRONTPAGE
post #3021 of 3519
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

Just a bit of info about Me-TV on WBBJ. It is not going to be on a new subchannel. Me-TV programming will be shown when CBS or syndicated content is not showing on 7.3

The television station will broadcast CBS programing over its virtual channel 7.3, now the weather radar channel. It will broadcast all CBS programming, including CBS sports. The local TV station will run shows from MeTV when CBS or syndicated programing is not available, Thing said. MeTV programs will run until at least September.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20...xt%7CFRONTPAGE

Thanks. I had called BBJ yesterday and the receptionist was not even aware that they were going to be carrying MeTV at all.
post #3022 of 3519
Trip's site is updated now. It says Me-TV from 3PM-6PM. I'm sure that's not what you expected.
post #3023 of 3519
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

Trip's site is updated now. It says Me-TV from 3PM-6PM. I'm sure that's not what you expected.

True...but you take what life gives you and make the best of it. Some is better than none
post #3024 of 3519
Watched a little football on WBBJ/CBS today. It is in HD but looks like 480i. Not a bad picture really though...
post #3025 of 3519
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Originally Posted by kbuke View Post

Watched a little football on WBBJ/CBS today. It is in HD but looks like 480i. Not a bad picture really though...

No it was not in HD. It was in widescreen though. WBBJ subchannel is 480i with a bitrate of 3.5 Mbps. Flipped between them and WTVF and could notice a difference. Though the picture was better than I expected. I was glad to see it in widescreen.
post #3026 of 3519
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

No it was not in HD. It was in widescreen though. WBBJ subchannel is 480i with a bitrate of 3.5 Mbps. Flipped between them and WTVF and could notice a difference. Though the picture was better than I expected. I was glad to see it in widescreen.

WHNT (in the Huntsville market) does some widescreen SD broadcasting on their sub. They show an early newscast, some of the newer syndicated stuff (Dr. Oz), ACC football and CBS programming from time to time.

While widescreen SD doesn't look or sound bad, I doubt whether it will actually lure anyone with a widescreen TV into watching it instead of HD content on any other channel.
post #3027 of 3519
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Originally Posted by Kafei View Post

WHNT (in the Huntsville market) does some widescreen SD broadcasting on their sub. They show an early newscast, some of the newer syndicated stuff (Dr. Oz), ACC football and CBS programming from time to time.

While widescreen SD doesn’t look or sound bad, I doubt whether it will actually lure anyone with a widescreen TV into watching it instead of HD content on any other channel.

Well getting CBS in Nashville in my area via OTA requires a low-VHF antenna since it broadcasts on RF 5. Which as you know is very large. If one can get it in at all. WBBJ is very easy to get in. So if it's between nothing and SD then most people will take SD. I'm just glad programming is in widescreen. Also this past week-end durring the late Sunday afternoon football games. The CBS out of Nashville showed Cincy and Baltimore while the WBBJ-CBS showed Denver and KC. So that was an extra game available that normally wouldn't have been seen. Even if it was SD. So I'm looking forward to next football season and the possibility of extra games.
post #3028 of 3519
wkrn 2-2 is playing the acc network broadcast of miami nc basketball, is this hopefully a trend at channel2
post #3029 of 3519
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Originally Posted by smintn View Post

wkrn 2-2 is playing the acc network broadcast of miami nc basketball, is this hopefully a trend at channel2

I hope not, I switched over earlier to check the forecast and was not happy it was not on. But I am a weather junkie
post #3030 of 3519
Was there an E/I bug on screen during the game? I know 2-2 did air some ACC football on Saturdays during the fall and it never made any sense to me. It's sort of like why on earth is WSMV running Today Show repeats hosted by a shrieking, over caffeinated Kathie Lee Gifford at 1am.
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