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post #151 of 4139
no... too long for me.....

Can someone please provide when or if it will be available?
post #152 of 4139
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Originally posted by RAVEN56706
no... too long for me.....

Can someone please provide when or if it will be available?

Reading below the rule in your message, it seems you've provided the answer yourself.
post #153 of 4139
got you... its a big ?????
post #154 of 4139
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Originally posted by RAVEN56706
got you... its a big ?????


Well, let's put it this way, the baby's past the due date.
post #155 of 4139
I just read a review of the card in the rather noobish "Computer Shopper" which came in yesterday. (To be honest, I'm more of a computer dude than a multimedia one).

Quote:

" ATI All-in Wonder 9800 Pro HDTV

Big-screen PC:
You don't have to have a gorgeous plasma or LCD television to enjoy the hottest craze in consumer electronics: HDTV. ATI's new $499 All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro HDTV graphics solution, with it's built-in HDTV tuner, enable PCs to receive local HDTV broadcasts in luscious high resolution.

Eye candy for free:
Though the Federal Communication Commission has mandated all broadcasters must go fully digital by December 31, 2006, many local TV stations are already transmitting in detailed hi-def. Even better, you don't even need to pay a subscription fee. All you need to connect it a compatible UHF antenna to the cord.

Sound with vision:
Digital television doesn't just mean a great picture. ATI's solution harnesses all that the digital signal has to offer and plays back its CD-quality audio, too. It even records in multichannel surround sound if it's available and if your sound card supports it. You can also use the device to record your favorite programs to your hard drive TiVO-style, and pause, fast-forward, or rewind live television.

Piece it together:
ATI's All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro HDTV solution consists of a stand-alone ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AGP graphics card plus the new HDTV Wonder PCI daughercard. You can also buy the HDTV Wonder PCI card alone for $100 at augment an existing All-in-Wonder graphics board. No wires are required to connect both cards inside your PC's case, minimizing setup time.

Turn on and drop out:
ATI Technologies, www.ati.com


Yes, I typed that all out just for the good of this community...


Apparently you will want to have an All-in-Wonder, not the opposite.



DrCR


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post #156 of 4139
This page claims the card is available for purchase from their on-line store but I sure don't see it.
post #157 of 4139
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Originally posted by jimmyv
This page claims the card is available for purchase from their on-line store but I sure don't see it.

It's kind of hard to see but ritght below the last paragraph it states "* Available soon " How soon is the big question.
post #158 of 4139
Quote:
Originally posted by DrCR_1

Apparently you will want to have an All-in-Wonder, not the opposite.


Only if you want PIP

How to Buy The HDTV WONDER and Accessories

The HDTV WONDER PCI card is offered online* at www.ati.com or at leading electronics retailers in a variety of combinations. The product is found packaged with a number of ALL-IN-WONDER® 9600 and above class graphics cards and is also available for standalone purchase.

* Available soon


http://www.ati.com/products/hdtvwonder/features.html
post #159 of 4139
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Regarding updated announcement:

Typically the next announcement from the press relapse will be the
product launch. This card should be available on line by early August
2004.


Regards,

Rick Carman
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post #160 of 4139
Bummer, another 2 months (at least).

Maybe S3 Graphics will release their Omnichrome HD VIVO card before then.
post #161 of 4139
Quote:


Originally posted by jgs9455
Typically the next announcement from the press relapse will be the
product launch. This card should be available on line by early August
2004.


Super bummer. I *really* want to know if this card supports the new flag standard so I can decide if I want to buy an oldschool HDTV card.


DrCR


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post #162 of 4139
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Originally posted by boiler11
Are you saying you would like them to release the hardware without proper software? I bought my Fusion I about a year ago. The DVICO software blew then and still blows now. I would rather get the hardware with working software.

What's so bad about the software? Are other card's softwares that much better?
post #163 of 4139
Yes... MyHD's software is far mroe stable.
post #164 of 4139
I can't speak for the quality of the software for other cards, but DVICO's software is crap. It crashes a lot and corrupts its own registry settings when it does. It also lacks a lot of features such as timeshifting, a usefull program guide, reliable recording ...

As far as I'm concerned, there is currently no good HDTV solution for PCs. Some are better than others in certain respects, but none of them have all the features of even the most simple PVRs like my DishPVR.

Of course there's no gurante that ATI's product will be any better.
post #165 of 4139
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Originally posted by boiler11
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Of course there's no gurante that ATI's product will be any better.

Agreed. However recent updates from ATI seem to be improving, which gives me hope.

Anyone messed with MMC9? How's stability?
post #166 of 4139
I don't know how relavant this is now, but just yesterday FiringSquad.com gave the ATI HDTV Wonder card it's Editor's Choice. I follow this site closely and those awards only go to really outstanding products, so something must have been good

See the review here
post #167 of 4139
Interesting review, but we still don't know for sure if the software/card is compatible with QAM (it does have a chip which can support it, but that's not all that's required)... and the AccessDTV owners have enjoyed the instant replay feature for years, despite what's written there
post #168 of 4139
They have told people who asked that QAM is not going to happen.
post #169 of 4139
I think QAM is out.
Maybe enabled in a future MMC release (or hack) but don't buy it for that feature.

Do buy it for OTA, time shifting, and recording HDTV

I am still curious to know what dx9 cards it will work with (9500 or above), but AIW or not? I thought for sure it was being bundled with AIW cards. Looks to be around $200, but includes antenna!! They also said the app crashed alot, but it is 1st gen. I would also want to make sure the files are transportable, and can be burned to DVD.
post #170 of 4139
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Originally posted by jgs9455
I think QAM is out.
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Do buy it for OTA, time shifting, and recording HDTV

... I would also want to make sure the files are transportable, and can be burned to DVD.

It is an absolute requirement for me that HDTV Wonder can produce TP files which are transportable. I want a high performance tuner (NXT2004) which enables my capture PC to record TP transport streams which can then be played on my main HTPC.

Someone please find out more about .vcr format.

Thanks.
DonP
post #171 of 4139
They do include the ability to extract the original stream, though it's unclear yet weither the exported stream is a transport stream or a re-multiplexed program stream (either way is fine with me).

The DirectX requirement is most likely here only because it requires HW-accelerated DXVA support.
post #172 of 4139
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Originally posted by HiDefDon
It is an absolute requirement for me that HDTV Wonder can produce TP files which are transportable. I want a high performance tuner (NXT2004) which enables my capture PC to record TP transport streams which can then be played on my main HTPC.

Someone please find out more about .vcr format.

Thanks.
DonP

I think that .vcr is essentially mpeg-2, but in a different form. ZoomPlayer can play it.
post #173 of 4139
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Originally posted by Sulik

The DirectX requirement is most likely here only because it requires HW-accelerated DXVA support.

But older DX7 & 8 cards also do DxVA. Or is there something different about DxVA in Dx9?
post #174 of 4139
post #175 of 4139
It includes a "transcoder" feature which sounds like it encrypts the file (ExtremeTech says the file ends-up a lot bigger). Hello, Broadcast Flag!
post #176 of 4139
Hmmm....they told me they were going to bring it out at $110. Their new remote was optional at $50. That means we end up buying an antenna for $40

Wonder which POS you get for $40?

Wish they had just left it at $110, but it appears they make you buy everything so they can push their weak 3Q.
post #177 of 4139
I hope it gives smooth playback. My DVICO FusionHDTV III suffers from sticky frames on HDTV content especially noticeable in horizontal camera pans.

Bob
post #178 of 4139
Will GuidePlus+ have listings for digital OTA channels?

Will you be able to set recording from the GuidePlus application?

Is there a "View Now" option to tune from the GuidePlus application?

Will it have the IE plug-in to have TV frame show up in IE browser?

Bob
post #179 of 4139
None of the reviews I've read (AnandTech and FiringSquad) have mentioned the DxVA jitter bug that's been plaguing Radeon users of Fusion HDTV cards.

DVICO has stated (and I believe them) that it's an ATI driver or hardware problem. But if they've solved it for their own HDTV card, then maybe there's a solution for us Fusion owners...

Any word on whether they supplied a new Catalyst driver to the reviewers with the HDTV wonder?

---DanQ989
post #180 of 4139
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Originally posted by HDTVFanAtic
Hmmm....they told me they were going to bring it out at $110. Their new remote was optional at $50. That means we end up buying an antenna for $40

Wonder which POS you get for $40?

Wish they had just left it at $110, but it appears they make you buy everything so they can push their weak 3Q.

I was all ready to buy one when they came out at $110. At $200 I think I'll have to pass.
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