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post #151 of 2482
Actually I'm not sure where it's picking up channel 10, because on my TV, it's showing up on channel 0, along with 2 other stations on channel 0. Once I get to channel 0 I get 10 HD, then if I hit channel up I get Versus HD, then channel up again get's me WB HD.

So here's what stations I am currently getting HD from the TW cable.

WXXI (special) is on 80-3
PBS World is on 80-1
WXXI is on 82-1
WHAM (13) is on 82-2
WUHF (31) is on 83-1
SNY is on 83-2
Music is on 91-7
Lifetime is on 92-3
RNews is on 113-2
CW is on 115-2
WHEC (10) is on 0
Versus is on 0
WB is on 0

WROC channel 8, not getting

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Originally Posted by davehancock View Post

It's surprising that you can get 123-10 but not 123-8. Both are basically on the same QAM channel (that's the 123 part). If you can't get either, it may be a problem with a splitter or something as they are at a pretty high frequency (789Mhz) and older splitter won't pass that too well.
post #152 of 2482
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Originally Posted by whitebomber View Post

Actually I'm not sure where it's picking up channel 10, because on my TV, it's showing up on channel 0, along with 2 other stations on channel 0. Once I get to channel 0 I get 10 HD, then if I hit channel up I get Versus HD, then channel up again get's me WB HD.

So here's what stations I am currently getting HD from the TW cable.

WXXI (special) is on 80-3
PBS World is on 80-1
WXXI is on 82-1
WHAM (13) is on 82-2
WUHF (31) is on 83-1
SNY is on 83-2
Music is on 91-7
Lifetime is on 92-3
RNews is on 113-2
CW is on 115-2
WHEC (10) is on 0
Versus is on 0
WB is on 0

WROC channel 8, not getting

Sounds like you have a TV problem- it apparently can't deal accurately with QAMs above 120. That's why WHEC shows up as 0 and not 123.
post #153 of 2482
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Originally Posted by davehancock View Post

Sounds like you have a TV problem- it apparently can't deal accurately with QAMs above 120. That's why WHEC shows up as 0 and not 123.

You were right on with your thought. Took the TV back and got another one. Now I get channel 8 HD and all the channels show up where they are supposed to be. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond! Since this is a bedroom TV, I doubt we'll bother with the dig cable box, so using the built in QAM tuner is essential.

Thanks again...
post #154 of 2482
Hello all, I am going to be in Rochester NY this weekend... family vacation. I was also hoping to pick up a CM 4228 and CM 7777 since they are much more expensive in canada.

So my question is does anybody know of local stores in Rochester that sell them if so please share.

Thank you in advance
post #155 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Odysseus_Maximus View Post

Hello all, I am going to be in Rochester NY this weekend...

Per the CM web site, here are your closest choices

Standard Electronics
215 John Glenn Drive
Amherst, NY 14228
Tel (716) 691-3061
in Buffalo and

DSI Systems Inc.
5775 Bridge Street
E. Syracuse, NY 13057
Tel (800) 888-8876
Phone Number 2: (315) 445-1395
in Syracuse
post #156 of 2482
Standard has been out of business for, I bet 10 years. Don't ask why it is still listed.
I don't think anyone carries CM locally. BTW; it's a large box, the antenna is fully assembled.
The Winegard version is sold locally (surburbs of Buffalo), though I feel the CM is the better (and stronger) design.

Is there anyone in the Rocherster market that can receive WNED 43.1 from Grand Island that has made a comparision of PQ between the two affilates?
post #157 of 2482
Can anyone here get Toronto or Kingston OTA? If so, what antenna and other gear are you using, and where are you located. I'm assuming something like a Winegard 8200U would be required.

TIA,

Earl
post #158 of 2482
The low band is almost dead. The high band will be used in the Rochester market. Canada will still use the high band, but after 2011 no one knows yet.
Point is you surely don't need a all band antenna as that 8200. Channel Master and Winegard have both come out with two band; High and UHF antennas, dropping low band coverage.

Frankly, getting a 4228 that has limited high band coverage would suite you fine. There are as many UHF station across the pond and Toronto might be in range depending on how close to the lake you are.
post #159 of 2482
Now face a difficult decision - to stay with DISH, try DIRECT TV or switch to T-W Cable. Can you advise?? This is long, but I really need good advice.

The DISH people say I MUST put up another antenna to get Sat 61.5. They refiuse to deliver a DISH 1000 antenna. I really don't want more holes in my house. Besides, how do I know DISH won't put up another sat in some other location of the sky - requiring another antenna?? I'm beginning to think the best thing is to go with T-W Cable but I have no idea now what it will cost me and what they can offer.

Here is a copy of a posting of my problem on "RochesterHDTV" (which I joined yesterday).

Dish tells me I must upgrade to a new receiver to continue to get HD. I've had my location evaluated and I CANNOT "SEE" 61.5 from my present Antenna mast - which was put up when we first signed up for DISH about 4 years ago - at a location specified by a DISH technician (away from my house and up a hill), and then later modified with a DISH 500 antenna in order to "see" 110, 119 and 121.

Here is my history of aggravation with DISH:

The DISH people have been out here three times now. The first time was way back (at least 1 to 1-1/2 years ago) when DISH first began to offer their expanded HD. I called to order and they sent out one of their DISH techs to look my location over. He said that I could not "see" sat 61.5 but if I waited a year or so, DISH would put an HD sat up near 121.

In response to DISH's recent letter that my HD would be dropped unless I switched to new receivers, I did a google search and found that sat 129 is up an carrying their HD. Satellite 129 IS VISIBLE from my antenna mast. It's elevation is 18 degrees, and I do have a good view.

In ordering the first more recent DISH Tech visit (my second on this subject), I called and told them I would need to be able to "see" sat 129 in order to continue to get HD, but the guy (a subcontractor) showed up with a work order for setting up a second dish to "see" sat. 61.5. When he got here he saw that I cannot see this from my present antenna mast. He told me that a new order would be cut for a DISH 1000 antenna to "see" sat 129.

I called the day before the third guy was to show up, and made sure that the order called for a DISH 1000 antenna. I was told that it did. But when the third guy showed up (a DISH tech.) he said that the DISH people in this area do not stock the DISH 1000 antenna. He suggested a second dish at a location on the western end of my roof for 61.5. I took him inside and showed him the problems I would have in punching holes in my house and trying to thread a cable through the walls and ceilings. We spent a lot of time and effort getting the cabling into the house from my original antenna. That is all I want to do. I WILL NOT PUNCH MORE HOLES!!

I have a Time-Warner cable into the house now - installed for a trial years ago that we dropped.. If I can't get HD from sat 129, I will drop DISH. I am under no long term contract with DISH.

So here are questions that I hope someone can help answer:
1. I have a good view of sat 129. With the correct dish antenna (Dish 1000, DISH 1000.2 ??), could I expect to get a good signal from sat 129? (Along with sat 110 and 119). If not, why not?
2. Does DIRECTV have a satellite in the area of 110, 119, 121, 129 that I could use if I switch to DIRECTV?
3. Does Time Warner offer decent quality HD?
post #160 of 2482
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I really don't want more holes in my house. Besides, how do I know DISH won't put up another sat in some other location of the sky - requiring another antenna??

That's why it's nice to have a movable antenna.
As far as the "holes", it's no deal to fill them in with caulk.
post #161 of 2482
What a dead thread. No one watches TV around Rochester anymore?

Anyway, does WROC or anyone have plans on passing TVGOS data? For that matter, is any analog station in the Rochester market passing TVGOS data now?
post #162 of 2482
What model is TW sporting for their HDVR's these days. Mine is having some "issues" and I may bring it in if there is an upgraded model with a bigger hard drive.
post #163 of 2482
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Originally Posted by rudyolph View Post

What model is TW sporting for their HDVR's these days. Mine is having some "issues" and I may bring it in if there is an upgraded model with a bigger hard drive.

They just installed mine a couple days ago and it's says Explorer 8240HDC on the front. The rear, however, looks like an 8300 according to what I saw on the Scientific Atlanta website. Have no idea how many GB storage but I did notice tonight that one HD show of 1hr was about 5% of storage capacity.
post #164 of 2482
if not here, where might Rochester discuss ATSC reception?

Looking for some feed back on what antennas people are having good luck with locally. Anyone else still using an antenna?

where is the rochesterHDTV group? mentioned above
post #165 of 2482
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Originally Posted by matt-o View Post

if not here, where might Rochester discuss ATSC reception?

Looking for some feed back on what antennas people are having good luck with locally. Anyone else still using an antenna?

where is the rochesterHDTV group? mentioned above

http://www.rochesterhdtv.com/
post #166 of 2482
Hi Friends,

I live in Brighton, NY - Just purchased new HDTV , it has a built-in tuner tuners (including QAM, though i don't know what that means).
. Bought a Radio-Shack Indoor/Outdoor antenna (http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2253765).

I am only getting poor-quality grainy CBS, HSN, PBS (horrible), and thats it!. Plus i notice they are actual whole numbers, where i see here people talking about channels with decimal points? (13.1, etc).

It is mounted outside on the siding about 10 feet high.

Am I missing something? I see people getting dozens of channels from all the way in buffalo, can you give me some advice please?

thanks again
post #167 of 2482
Have you done a scan or search for digital channels? Sounds like you are getting a few analog stations but barely. You need to increase your signal strength with a better antenna or better location.
post #168 of 2482
I am new to this forum. I checked out the postings and saw only ones from 2002-2005 in the Rochester, NY area. Is there something I am not doing correctly to access the most recent ones?
Question: I am halfway down Canandaigua Lake (south of Rochester, NY) on the west side. Any possibility of receiving HD signals OTA. I hate paying the TW bills as I see most of you do.
Thanks for any help you can give.
post #169 of 2482
I am new to this forum, too. I've been experimenting with HDTV ever since I bought an HD TiVo with a digital tuner. I built an antenna using the directions on uhfhdtvantenna.blogspot.com. I plan on mounting the antenna in the rafters of my garage. I am motivated to get it to work because my wife is certain it will never work! I won't mount it permanently until I'm convinced it's working OK.

I am in Victor, Canandaigua is a bit further away so your mileage may vary, but I get the Rochester digital CBS, FOX, and PBS stations perfectly with my antenna (as well as the Syracuse FOX station).

But the Rochester digital NBC and ABC stations are not coming in. I get a weak signal, but not enough to get any sort of picture. I am confused by this, because I was under the impression that all Rochester TV stations broadcasted from Cobbs Hill, so if I get one I ought to get them all. I've read that these stations are currently broadcasting digitally on channels 58 and 59 respectively, but once they switch over they will be broadcasting on their original 10 and 13 channels in the VHF band. Is this true?

I can get analog channels 10 and 13 OK with my DIY antenna, 10 has a little bit of ghosting but I might be able to fix that with better antenna placement. Does this mean that once they switch over I'll be able to receive those digital channels broadcasting on 10 and 13?

Thanks in advance for all your help!

p.s. Does that rochesterhdtv.com site still exist? I can't get to it....
post #170 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Dork. View Post

I am new to this forum, too. I've been experimenting with HDTV ever since I bought an HD TiVo with a digital tuner. I built an antenna using the directions on uhfhdtvantenna.blogspot.com. I plan on mounting the antenna in the rafters of my garage. I am motivated to get it to work because my wife is certain it will never work! I won't mount it permanently until I'm convinced it's working OK.

I am in Victor, Canandaigua is a bit further away so your mileage may vary, but I get the Rochester digital CBS, FOX, and PBS stations perfectly with my antenna (as well as the Syracuse FOX station).

But the Rochester digital NBC and ABC stations are not coming in. I get a weak signal, but not enough to get any sort of picture. I am confused by this, because I was under the impression that all Rochester TV stations broadcasted from Cobbs Hill, so if I get one I ought to get them all. I've read that these stations are currently broadcasting digitally on channels 58 and 59 respectively, but once they switch over they will be broadcasting on their original 10 and 13 channels in the VHF band. Is this true?

I can get analog channels 10 and 13 OK with my DIY antenna, 10 has a little bit of ghosting but I might be able to fix that with better antenna placement. Does this mean that once they switch over I'll be able to receive those digital channels broadcasting on 10 and 13?

Thanks in advance for all your help!

p.s. Does that rochesterhdtv.com site still exist? I can't get to it....

I suspect that your antenna might not be particularly efficient at the higher UHF frequencies. Yes, everyone is located on Cobb Hill. And yes, you are correct that 10 & 13 are going back to those channels for DTV on June 13. The DTV technology has some anti-ghosting technology, so the ghosting on 10 should go away.

Don't know about rochesterhdtv. I used to be active there, but some of the posters became very antagonistic and chased a lot of folks away. They may have faded into oblivian.
post #171 of 2482
Thanks for the info, Dave. I think I'll go ahead and mount it then, and just wait for the switchover to get those other channels. I won't concern myself that much about the fact that my coat-hangar antenna isn't getting higher frequency channels, because I won't need it to after the switchover.

I am getting WROC, which is broadcasting on Channel 45, very well, and as far I know it's not moving come June. So I know my antenna will work over a wide enough range of channels.

Thanks again!
post #172 of 2482
rochesterhdtv.com is back again. And yeah Dave, I know what you mean. Unfortunately, a lot of garbage posts there of late. Still, if you can ignore that, there is still useful info and some helpful posters.
post #173 of 2482
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

What a dead thread. No one watches TV around Rochester anymore?

I watch tv In rochester still!! I just post in the rochesterhdtv forum alot...

Also Recently I got Rid of TW and I am strictly OTA now...I actually built My antenna too and get all the Rochester digital channels In great..I hope we can get More sub channels for the other stations like CBS and FOX...more free channels the better
post #174 of 2482
How many of you members around Rochester can pick up any of the Buffalo and/or Toronto market channels?
post #175 of 2482
Hey.. I get 2/4/7 ok. Apparently I'm blocked by terrain from getting GI stations. Never seen Toronto DTV. I live in Chili, kind of low location. Also get WSYT 90% of the time and occasionally WCNY from Syracuse.
post #176 of 2482
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

How many of you members around Rochester can pick up any of the Buffalo and/or Toronto market channels?

I can only get a fuzzy global channel(27) from canada and I am right on the lake in greece...I have gotten Syracuse locals before though and watertowns.
post #177 of 2482
i am wondering if anyone knows what might be the best indoor antenna for my circumstances.while i realize a good outdoor antenna will out-perform a good indoor antenna,i am hoping to find an adequate inddor antenna because i cannot currently afford to have an outdoor installed.also,i experience strong winds and plenty of snow and would like to keep the antenna inside if at all possible.i live in avon, ny in a mobile home park.there are not a lot of tall trees in the immediate vicinity.with the philips mant510 rabbit ears i am currently using,i get 8,10,and 13 somewhat well (10 breaks up)and at night i get 31 and 21 with great difficulty and plenty of pixelation.i get buffalo's channel 4 and channel 2 quite well even in the day time,but buffalo's 23 comes in only in the middle of the night and very rarely do i get 17 and 29 from buffalo.batavia's channel 51,whose analog signal comes in clear even w/o an antenna,i cannot get in digital at all.i need an antenna that at least gets all 5 main local stations clear,and strongly hope to find one that picks up 17,29.and 23 consistantly.Have already tried rca amplified rabbit ears (which i bought years ago for analog) and radio shack amplified round indoor/outdoor.
post #178 of 2482
I'm looking to mount an antenna in my attic. I have a new house with a single layer of asphalt roofing. I know its not ideal, but the WAF factor precludes me from mounting on the roof directly. Does anyone have any recommendations on the antenna choice? What's the best one out there? There is quite of bit of space up there so I should not have any size constraints. I'm located in Chili if it makes any difference.
post #179 of 2482
You need to receive vhf, since 10 and 13 are going to be on 10 and 13.
A small combination antenna or a yagi type uhf antenna, that will receive some vhf. Possibly an amp, too.
post #180 of 2482
I would get the Rochester channels during the middle months (May - October range). Not to happy that WHEC and WHAM going from D58 and D59 to D10 and D13 since my UHF antenna has problems getting VHF stations. When CBS Watertown WWNY moved from D35 (I think) to D07-1 (and the Fox station WNYF at D07-2) - I can no longer get those 2 stations. I didn't know (or forgot) that WHEC and WHAM were moving and I figured that's 2 more stations that I'll probably lose. Friday I added D10-1 and D13-1 and I'm getting nothing. Since they both have a sub-channel D10-2 and D13-2, that means I have now lost 6 digital channels.
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