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post #2251 of 2482
Can anyone confirm this? What exact equipment do I need in order to try to pick up this Global repeater station 27 in Peterboro? Also, are there any other suggestions out there?
post #2252 of 2482
Even through i can't get Canadian stations i would suggest you use an outdoors antenna which can pick up stations a lot better than an indoors antenna. If that doesn't work try adding an amplifier.
post #2253 of 2482
Rochester Over The Air (OTA) broadcast question:

Does anyone know how long WBGT has been broadcasting on 46-1, 46-2,46-3 & 46-4?

I have a TiVo and so far no guide data and when I check zap2it.com the channels are not shown.

Also does anyone know what happened to 31-2?
post #2254 of 2482
see my woot above for wbgt....

they have 4 subchannels going
31.2 is off CoolTV is gone
post #2255 of 2482
I would think you could get 27 in Peterborough if you are in seabreeze. I used to have it good at our old house in the city near the airport. Rarely now.
Need an outdoor antenna. Probably could get CBC 12 too..
post #2256 of 2482
Is Global repeater channel #27 strictly a channel that only shows Global network programs? Or does this channel show other programming and is only a Global affiliate? Nobody mentioned what type/brand etc. antenna I would need to mount outside. There is also this so called "Super Antenna" that picks up many HD/UHF channels and travels very far they claim. Can anyone help with this?
post #2257 of 2482
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Originally Posted by joe57777 View Post

Is Global repeater channel #27 strictly a channel that only shows Global network programs? Or does this channel show other programming and is only a Global affiliate?

its a translator of the main Global station (CIII Toronto)

The only non own and operated Global station is in Thunder Bay. CJON (NTV) in St Johns Newfoundland is a partial affiliate of Global
post #2258 of 2482
Yes, it's true. Global on ch-27 peterboro is identical to the flagship CIII Toronto. The Toronto Global station on ch-41 might be recivable in Rochester, at least during the summer months, they have a strong signal.
post #2259 of 2482
Also, the Peterboro CBC affiliate CHEX is going digital on August 31/13, so this one might reach Rochester too.
post #2260 of 2482
Yes wbgt is broadcasting in dtv on 46 with 4 sub channels.
post #2261 of 2482
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Originally Posted by New Cable Guy View Post

Yes, it's true. Global on ch-27 peterboro is identical to the flagship CIII Toronto. The Toronto Global station on ch-41 might be recivable in Rochester, at least during the summer months, they have a strong signal.

That is great then if I can pick up anything to do with Global affiliate or not will not make a difference. The CBC is a bonus!!!!! But are any of these stations not watchable at certain times of the year? You say the signal is strong in the summer, does that mean it's to weak at any other time of the year to watch it?

Also, nobody has told me what is the best antenna for the money to buy. I guess I would mount it stationary to my dish network antenna on top of my garage roof and point it North toward the Lake and try to pick up Canada. This would probably get my locals in clearer as well as a bonus. I don't really care too much about Buffalo or Syracuse but it would also be a bonus to pick up an extra few channels there I guess. But I am mainly interested in Canada.
post #2262 of 2482
You can try, but their are no guarantees. It depends on your location. You really need someone else in your area to confirm if it's doable, before you go and spend money on it. The Toronto area recieves Rochester stations only in the summer during tropo, but they are not reliable here. So you might expect the same in reverse.
post #2263 of 2482
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Originally Posted by New Cable Guy View Post

You can try, but their are no guarantees. It depends on your location. You really need someone else in your area to confirm if it's doable, before you go and spend money on it. The Toronto area receives Rochester stations only in the summer during tropo, but they are not reliable here. So you might expect the same in reverse.

I was not totally relying on Toronto. There are stations across the lake from Rochester closer to me than Toronto. Is there a chance that I could pick-up one of those stations that carries Global? Again, there is suppose to be a super antenna that pick up digital out of town stations pretty far. That is what I am talking about using or something similar to that. Does anyone out there have one of those antennas who lives in Rochester that can pick up Canadian Global network programs clear enough to watch all year round?
post #2264 of 2482
The closer you are to the lake, the better your luck should be. Where are you located? Check antennaweb for what you need.
post #2265 of 2482
If anyone is looking for hd trutv, it's on 1174 tw.
post #2266 of 2482
It's been there for quite awhile - I didn't know that you were looking
post #2267 of 2482
Naw, just the d&c only showing the sd channels. I had never heard of it until yesterday. It just shows you how much channel surfing I do...
post #2268 of 2482
My problem is that I surf and that I find some stupid show that I don't want to miss. After watching 10 or 20 shows, I realize that it was stupid!
post #2269 of 2482
Joe you should be able to receive global channel 27 from just north of Cobourg if you do not have any large hills or obstructions between you and the lake.
Global 27 puts out a strong signal. Peterborough's CBC affiliate CHEX is on channel 12 and is going digital at the beginning of May.
Also CKWS channel 11 in Kingston is going digital on April 22. You can also try for CKWS 30.1 from Brighton, ON directly across the
lake, but it is a fairly weak signal.

A CM4228HD antenna mounted high with a preamp is your best bet for getting 27. It also has good VHF performance, but perhaps
not good enough to get CHEX 12, which is farther from the lake.

Check your FM radio for 103.1 CFMX, if you can get it then there is hope for Global 27 which is on the same tower.

I can get WBGT RF46 most of the time here in Brighton, ON. You should definitely not have any problems in Rochester area with it.

On another note... whats the deal with HSN now moving from channel 36 to channel 20 and still in analogue????
CBLT RF 20 in Toronto is on the same frequency. Can no longer get it unless I rotate my antenna.
post #2270 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Wiptydoer View Post

Joe you should be able to receive global channel 27 from just north of Cobourg if you do not have any large hills or obstructions between you and the lake.
Global 27 puts out a strong signal. Peterborough's CBC affiliate CHEX is on channel 12 and is going digital at the beginning of May.
Also CKWS channel 11 in Kingston is going digital on April 22. You can also try for CKWS 30.1 from Brighton, ON directly across the
lake, but it is a fairly weak signal.

A CM4228HD antenna mounted high with a preamp is your best bet for getting 27. It also has good VHF performance, but perhaps
not good enough to get CHEX 12, which is farther from the lake.

Check your FM radio for 103.1 CFMX, if you can get it then there is hope for Global 27 which is on the same tower.

I can get WBGT RF46 most of the time here in Brighton, ON. You should definitely not have any problems in Rochester area with it.

On another note... whats the deal with HSN now moving from channel 36 to channel 20 and still in analogue????
CBLT RF 20 in Toronto is on the same frequency. Can no longer get it unless I rotate my antenna.

Thanks! I will try all of this but also do any of these channels broadcast online? Or will they be when they go digital?
post #2271 of 2482
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Originally Posted by Wiptydoer View Post

On another note... whats the deal with HSN now moving from channel 36 to channel 20 and still in analogue????

That was a dumb move keeping HSN in analog after the move. They should have made it digital format only when they changed the channel number & reclaimed some more space. While we're on a similar topic what happened to TW's transition to all digital cable service because they've only removed the 5 channels that went digital format only back in October. Shouldn't they have removed a couple of more analog channels by now.
post #2272 of 2482
Trying to watch the Sabres on 1043 (TW) tonight and there is constant pixelation and sound interruptions. Very annoying ! My son said that he noticed this at Empire Lanes Thursday night while watching some of the game there. So apparently it is not just happening to me.
post #2273 of 2482
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Trying to watch the Sabres on 1043 (TW) tonight and there is constant pixelation and sound interruptions. Very annoying ! My son said that he noticed this at Empire Lanes Thursday night while watching some of the game there. So apparently it is not just happening to me.

I didn't see that Sabres game, but when the NHL center ice preview was occurring, that happened a lot
post #2274 of 2482
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Originally Posted by joe57777 View Post

Hi Video Bruce,
I am very interested any local station in Canada that carries the Global TV network. I live in Rochester sort of close to Sea Breeze and I was wondering what kind of antenna you are using to pick up that fussy Global channel? And do you think if you bought one of those advertised power UHF antennas or something similar that you would possibly be able to clearly pick up Toronto or some other Canadian city's local digital off air channel that would carry that Global channel you talked about? Also, I would think that off those local Canadian TV channels that you might be able to pick up some hockey network channels like TSN as well?
I don't monitor this thread. I just saw your post. Never heard of this Sea Breeze, had to look it up. There are two Global networks. Which one are you interested in?
What is your elevation above lake level? Is Toronto is out of range even though it is entirely over water?
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The Toronto area recieves Rochester stations only in the summer during tropo, but they are not reliable here. So you might expect the same in reverse.
No the same situation. There is a huge difference in height of the Rochester stations cluster on that 'mound' compared to height of the CN Tower. wink.gif
As much as I'm not a far of those Antennas Direct, their 91xg would probably be your best bet though reception for CFTO physical channel 9 would suffer.

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Edited by videobruce - 3/27/13 at 5:55am
post #2275 of 2482
I've been searching the web for some updated info about TW's transition to all digital cable & i noticed their digital adapters page now says "Designated channels are now being delivered in digital format only." instead of saying they're transitioning to all digital tv service. I remember reading an old article on Stop The Cap (don't ask for link because i can't find it anymore) that said they we're thinking about canceling the transition to all digital tv & make select channels digital only when they need the space for other services. This makes me think we will always have analog cable.

For the past 2 days my digital adapter has been showing an error message saying "their was an interruption in you service" instead of turning on. I was able the fix it with a reboot until it happened again the next morning, so i rebooted it again & it's working normally again. If it happens again i'm returning it to tw & i'll use my tv's internal tuner. That will probably make me one of the first people to return a DTA to TW.
post #2276 of 2482
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Originally Posted by MPNASCAR24 View Post

I've been searching the web for some updated info about TW's transition to all digital cable & i noticed their digital adapters page now says "Designated channels are now being delivered in digital format only." instead of saying they're transitioning to all digital tv service. I remember reading an old article on Stop The Cap (don't ask for link because i can't find it anymore) that said they we're thinking about canceling the transition to all digital tv & make select channels digital only when they need the space for other services. This makes me think we will always have analog cable.

For the past 2 days my digital adapter has been showing an error message saying "their was an interruption in you service" instead of turning on. I was able the fix it with a reboot until it happened again the next morning, so i rebooted it again & it's working normally again. If it happens again i'm returning it to tw & i'll use my tv's internal tuner. That will probably make me one of the first people to return a DTA to TW.

I don't think TWC has abandoned plans to do all digital is is supposed to happen over a 5 year period that begin in 2011 when the Augusta ME test pilot for digital adapters was being evaluated. TWC will slowly remove analog channels for digital services such as more SDV bandwidth or DOCSIS channels for the near term but in the future they will likely get to a point where they decide that enough people have digital devices and remove all of the remaining analogs.
post #2277 of 2482
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Originally Posted by kevin120 View Post

I don't think TWC has abandoned plans to do all digital is is supposed to happen over a 5 year period that begin in 2011 when the Augusta ME test pilot for digital adapters was being evaluated. TWC will slowly remove analog channels for digital services such as more SDV bandwidth or DOCSIS channels for the near term but in the future they will likely get to a point where they decide that enough people have digital devices and remove all of the remaining analogs.

I through their transition to all digital would be a little faster than this. It's better to transition slowly like they are now so people don't freak out & can get digital equipment when their ready to get it.
post #2278 of 2482
Remove analog, fine. Encrypt first tier digital not fine! mad.gif

CATV has a distinct advantage over satellite services, TV's can tune QAM channels without any extra equipment as long as those are not encrypted. They weren't scrambled when the same services were analog. Why should they be now just because they are digital?? They still are low quality SD, aren't they?
post #2279 of 2482
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Originally Posted by joe57777 View Post

I was not totally relying on Toronto. There are stations across the lake from Rochester closer to me than Toronto. Is there a chance that I could pick-up one of those stations that carries Global? Again, there is suppose to be a super antenna that pick up digital out of town stations pretty far. That is what I am talking about using or something similar to that. Does anyone out there have one of those antennas who lives in Rochester that can pick up Canadian Global network programs clear enough to watch all year round?

This "super antenna" stuff sound like a scam - there's a lot of junk product out there with incredible (or should I saw non-credible) claims. If the signal can't reach the receiving location, the antenna used won't make much of a difference. Likewise if the signal is strong, pretty much any piece of metal will receive it. The case where the choice of an antenna REALLY matters is when it is receivable but weak. Then you got to go by gain figures etc., not some marketing claim. Also height of the antenna and line of sight are a major factors.

Curious why you are so interested in Global? Nearly all its programming is the same as US broadcast networks except for the news, which isn't probably to interesting to anyone who lives outside of Toronto (the Global news is the same on every transmitter - imagine if the Rochester stations all shut down and the transmitters were converted to translators for the New York City stations - that's what Global is rolleyes.gif)

BTW, CHEX Peterborough will go digital on Thursday May 9 (5 weeks from today). You can see the documents (including coverage maps) here: https://services.crtc.gc.ca/pub/DocWebBroker/OpenDocument.aspx?AppNo=201300665
post #2280 of 2482
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Remove analog, fine. Encrypt first tier digital not fine! mad.gif

CATV has a distinct advantage over satellite services, TV's can tune QAM channels without any extra equipment as long as those are not encrypted. They weren't scrambled when the same services were analog. Why should they be now just because they are digital?? They still are low quality SD, aren't they?

My point exactly. My cable provider took half of our analog stations (about 25) and switched them to digital. Out of those 25, about 12 were kept unencrypted and the other 13 were now encrypted. In order to get those channels back, everyone now has to buy or rent a stb so it can unscramble those channels - why???? So the cable provider can make more $$$$. I went in to their store and argued with them (as did many others) - they don't care. I argued that our tv's and other tuners are both analog and digital - there is no need to have an external tuner it just adds another component and more cables. They only part that is needed is a descrambler unit like we had in the 80's with pay tv. I argued that we are paying for those channels and are not receiving them with our own tuners because they are encrypting those channels and they want us to give them more money to descramble those channels - that sounds like extortion to me. mad.gif
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