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post #2311 of 2482
Thanks Dave!
post #2312 of 2482
I think I've finally at the last straw with tw. The dvr is telling me that it can not record wxxi! Even after a reboot. I'm fed up...
post #2313 of 2482
Hey great, even better! All my recordings are gone. The dvr is heading back this weekend if they do not return after yet another reboot.

Suggestions please on sat service. Who has the best picture?
post #2314 of 2482
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Originally Posted by atmusky View Post

Me thinks you mean 500GB & 1TB
Me thinks that you are correct;)
post #2315 of 2482
Well now I know whey the disk sizes are so small on the sa boxes, they use old pata drives. I contacted tw and they said that my disk was dead. I haven't decided on a replacement service yet, so I decided to pop a new drive in the 8300. They make it hard to get in using torx screws. It looks like an ancient htpc in there after it is open. Why they would use pata and esata in the same device is beyond me. The dead drive was a wd 160 jumpered csel. I had a 200g maxtor laying around, so I put that it. After a lengthy reboot, it records again.

The difference with this 8300 and my prior one is that the box itself functions if the disk dies. Any guesses if my recordings on the esata drive will be there?
post #2316 of 2482
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

Well now I know whey the disk sizes are so small on the sa boxes, they use old pata drives. I contacted tw and they said that my disk was dead. I haven't decided on a replacement service yet, so I decided to pop a new drive in the 8300. They make it hard to get in using torx screws. It looks like an ancient htpc in there after it is open. Why they would use pata and esata in the same device is beyond me. The dead drive was a wd 160 jumpered csel. I had a 200g maxtor laying around, so I put that it. After a lengthy reboot, it records again.

The difference with this 8300 and my prior one is that the box itself functions if the disk dies. Any guesses if my recordings on the esata drive will be there?

Don't tell TW you changed the drive inside the box because they'll make you pay their lost or damaged box fee. One of my former neighbors tried replacing the drive in his TW DVR with a 1TB drive & tw found out when he canceled his service & forgot to remove his 1TB drive because they forced him to pay around $200 because he tampered with the box without permission. When you return the box put the dead drive back in. Your SATA drive should still have all of it's recordings since it's seperate from the internal drive.
post #2317 of 2482
Yup, that's the plan. Thanks for the tip.
post #2318 of 2482
Yesterday i got a letter from TW that says on July 23 all of the local public, Educational & Goverment channels will be delivered in Digital Format Only. To me this sounds like Channels 2-19. The letter said nothing about clear qam but it did say you can request a digital adapter until September 23, 2013. They're still free until January 1, 2015.
post #2319 of 2482
Unless you received a different letter than I did, it stated local Public, Educational,, and Government Access programming will be delivered in digital format only. Further down the letter, it sates that if you have a TV with a QAM tuner, you can view Public Access on 98.5, Educational Access on 98.3, and Government Access on 98.4
post #2320 of 2482
That Programming is on Channels 15 & 19 here in batavia. I took another look at the letter & it says public access can be found on clear qam channel 19-1 & Educational Access will be on Clear Qam 19-2. The first time i read it i thought they were talking about the local channels but now i know they were only talking about Ch. 15 & 19 here. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
post #2321 of 2482
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Originally Posted by dwarren2 View Post

Anyone have an idea when/if WHEC is going to switch it's local feeds to HD? Why haven't they yet?

Rumors were it would be sometime in 2013....but who knows. As to the reason they haven't switched yet......it's always about money. Their owner apparently don't want to spend it. They've got to be one of the last stations in their market size to not upgrade.
post #2322 of 2482
As I ponder a switch to sat from tw I have a question about sat outages.

I was at MacGregors on Empire yesterday and they lost service ahead of yesterday's thunderstorm for about 20 minutes and then it happened again for another 10. They have direct and said that it happens all the time. Is this common for other customers or do they have some kind of misalignment?

They are at the absolute lowest point in Rochester, literally on Irondequoit bay. I think they have a pretty clear shot to the south.

Thanks, Greg
post #2323 of 2482
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

As I ponder a switch to sat from tw I have a question about sat outages.

I was at MacGregors on Empire yesterday and they lost service ahead of yesterday's thunderstorm for about 20 minutes and then it happened again for another 10. They have direct and said that it happens all the time. Is this common for other customers or do they have some kind of misalignment?

They are at the absolute lowest point in Rochester, literally on Irondequoit bay. I think they have a pretty clear shot to the south.

Thanks, Greg

I've been with DirecTv since 2005 I think. Storm related outages certainly do occur but normally they don't last long and they, in my experience, are less frequesnt than the ones I used to have with TWC. Those were typically longer in duration too (hours instead of minutes). It nay be different now with TWC. I live in Hilton and my feed was interrupted for about 2-3 minutes once yesterday.- maybe less. My signal strength is a bit low too because my dish is not aligned as well as it could be -- but it hasn't been adjusted on over 5 years. i checked my signal strength on some of the feeds and they are about 10% lower than they should be. When outages occur, I wait most of the time or if it's longer than a minute or two, I switch over to the DVR or the antenna -- or even my Roku to watch something else. So, outages are not often and not a big deal.

Anyway, my guess i they need their satellite dish adjusted. 10 and 20 minute outages for rain storms are very rare here and didn't happen here during the same timeframe yesterday.
Edited by lflorack - 7/5/13 at 5:23am
post #2324 of 2482
Just noticed this morning that two of my TVs with cable fed directly into a QAM tuner, no cable box or adapter, will only tune the locals in SD. The HD versions of those channels give a no signal response.
post #2325 of 2482
I haven't figured it out yet. OTOH, it could just be a temporary glitch
post #2326 of 2482
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Originally Posted by lokilarry View Post

Did they encrypt them or change the QAM designations for each?
it appears that they moved the channels around (a re-scan is required).

The following are the old and new frequencies (along with the actual physical channel of the new location.

Chan/Old Freq/New Freq/Phys Chan
8.1 / 597/ 627 / 91
10.1 / 639 / 735 / 114
10.2 / ??? / 735 / 114
13.1 / 639 / 507 / 71
13.2 / 651 / 507 /71
21.1 / 639 / 657 / 101
21.2 / ??? / 657 / 101
21.3 / ??? / 657 / 101

I didn't have records for where 10.2, 21.2 & 21.2 used to be so I put in ???

At the moment, 31.1 seems to be blank (has RF signal on 627 MHz, but no video). Something is screwed up there. I imagine that will be fixed soon.

The "problem" could have been encryption (but apparently isn't) as the FCC now permits cable to encrypt all channels.
post #2327 of 2482
Thank you, a rescan did the trick! Dave, can you knock down the intelligence a notch or two so I don't have to feel so inadequate!
post #2328 of 2482
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Originally Posted by larrude View Post

Thank you, a rescan did the trick! Dave, can you knock down the intelligence a notch or two so I don't have to feel so inadequate!
Sorry for that rolleyes.gif.

I won't be able to "pitch in" much in the future as we will be moving to the Buffalo area (Hamburg) next week. FiOS, here we come!biggrin.gif
post #2329 of 2482
Good luck with the move Dave ! FIOS sounds good to me !

RE: DirecTV rain outages ? Yep, they happened frequently here and they lasted longer than only a few minutes at a time when I had DirecTV service. Yes, it was annoying. Yes, my son who has DirecTV in East Webster has outages. We were over there a couple weeks ago and they had a significant rain interruption. With that being said...will I go back to DirecTV some day ? Yep ! LOL
post #2330 of 2482
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Originally Posted by davehancock View Post

it appears that they moved the channels around (a re-scan is required).

The following are the old and new frequencies (along with the actual physical channel of the new location.

Chan/Old Freq/New Freq/Phys Chan
8.1 / 597/ 627 / 91
10.1 / 639 / 735 / 114
10.2 / ??? / 735 / 114
13.1 / 639 / 507 / 71
13.2 / 651 / 507 /71
21.1 / 639 / 657 / 101
21.2 / ??? / 657 / 101
21.3 / ??? / 657 / 101

I didn't have records for where 10.2, 21.2 & 21.2 used to be so I put in ???

At the moment, 31.1 seems to be blank (has RF signal on 627 MHz, but no video). Something is screwed up there. I imagine that will be fixed soon.

The "problem" could have been encryption (but apparently isn't) as the FCC now permits cable to encrypt all channels.


Are you still able to tune in 13.1 and/or 13.2? I'm able to find all of the other channels you mentioned with a rescan, but those two seem to be missing, at least for me. Similar to what you mentioned above, I'm able to see a signal on a few channels, the specifics escape me at the moment, but I think somewhere in the mid-80's, but no video. I'm using one of the older dual tuner HDHomerun boxes with the most current firmware. I wouldn't think the device would be the issue, but who knows....
post #2331 of 2482
I found all of them, but after the rescan, each of three TV's had them showing up on different frequencies. My Panasonic took the most time to locate everything. I justkept rescanning digital channels only and they eventually all showed up
Larry
post #2332 of 2482
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Originally Posted by agray1 View Post

Are you still able to tune in 13.1 and/or 13.2? I'm able to find all of the other channels you mentioned with a rescan, but those two seem to be missing, at least for me. Similar to what you mentioned above, I'm able to see a signal on a few channels, the specifics escape me at the moment, but I think somewhere in the mid-80's, but no video. I'm using one of the older dual tuner HDHomerun boxes with the most current firmware. I wouldn't think the device would be the issue, but who knows....
Sorry, I can no longer check this out as I have moved to FiOS territory (Hamburg, NY). But as Larry says, a rescan may be necessary. (Time Warner does not like to acknowledge that people can get the local channels if their TV has a QAM tuner - they would rather "sell" you a cable box).
post #2333 of 2482
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Originally Posted by larrude View Post

I found all of them, but after the rescan, each of three TV's had them showing up on different frequencies. My Panasonic took the most time to locate everything. I justkept rescanning digital channels only and they eventually all showed up
Larry

Thanks for the info. Very interesting about the number of re-scans and the frequencies on each of your televisions - I'll have a have look at things again this evening. I tune in everything through my HDHomerun box and Mythbuntu so perhaps I'll run a scan directly on my TV and see if that finds it.
post #2334 of 2482
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Originally Posted by davehancock View Post

Sorry, I can no longer check this out as I have moved to FiOS territory (Hamburg, NY). But as Larry says, a rescan may be necessary. (Time Warner does not like to acknowledge that people can get the local channels if their TV has a QAM tuner - they would rather "sell" you a cable box).

Thanks everyone for the quick response. I've called TW once or twice in the past regarding a QAM issue. Though I already knew what type of response I would get, figured I've got nothing to lose. This last time was no different, and after some time describing the issue, the individual I was chatting with finally instructed me to 'Go to Radio Shack', as they should be able to tell me what frequency WHAM/13.1 was broadcasting on.


Very jealous about your FiOS. My brother was an early adopter in the Philadelphia area a few years back. He often enjoys telling me how awesome it is.
post #2335 of 2482
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Originally Posted by agray1 View Post

Thanks everyone for the quick response. I've called TW once or twice in the past regarding a QAM issue. Though I already knew what type of response I would get, figured I've got nothing to lose. This last time was no different, and after some time describing the issue, the individual I was chatting with finally instructed me to 'Go to Radio Shack', as they should be able to tell me what frequency WHAM/13.1 was broadcasting on.
And that is why Time Warner wants people to "stick to the script". RS folks are generally not any more knowledgeable than the CSRs that TWC hires.

BTW: Generally, you don't need to know the QAM channels or frequencies. I listed them in my earlier post because I wanted to show that changes had been made [also the number of HD channels on a given QAM is an indication of the amount of bandwidth reduction (compression) that is being employed by cable. One QAM can have two HD channels with no more compression than is employed by a HD station that has no subchannels.]
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Originally Posted by agray1 View Post

Very jealous about your FiOS. My brother was an early adopter in the Philadelphia area a few years back. He often enjoys telling me how awesome it is.
I am not so sure if you should be jealous. My feelings about FiOS are mixed:
  • First, fiber does not make the picture quality better. As soon as the fiber comes into your house it is converted to the same electrical signal that cable uses. Where one has a good cable signal, FiOS will be no better. Anyone who tells you different just doesn't know what they are talking about.
  • The boxes that Verizon uses in most areas are inferior to the boxes that TW uses. For example: the Motorola QIP boxes that is used in most areas do not allow "native resolution": You MUST chose one resolution (like 1080i) and everything else is converted to that. Well, with 720p broadcasts you suffer a loss of quality when that happens. Fortunately, for me, they are using newer Cisco boxes in my area.
  • Their guide is riddled with advertisements (though you can set up a custom guide)
  • Some of my wife's favorite channels are not in HD (though they have both East and West cost feeds of HBO & Showtime).
  • Getting an On Demand program is a pain: Requires twice the button pushes than TWC does.
  • Their phone service SUCKS:
  • --Accessing their answering service requires dialing an 10 digit number + a 4 digit passcode (TWC requires just *83)
  • --TWC has feature where they will e-mail an audio file with the message to you (real handy when we are traveling) FiOS does not.

I have a 30 day period to cancel - but I am told that TWC service here is pretty bad.
post #2336 of 2482
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Originally Posted by davehancock View Post

And that is why Time Warner wants people to "stick to the script". RS folks are generally not any more knowledgeable than the CSRs that TWC hires.

BTW: Generally, you don't need to know the QAM channels or frequencies. I listed them in my earlier post because I wanted to show that changes had been made [also the number of HD channels on a given QAM is an indication of the amount of bandwidth reduction (compression) that is being employed by cable. One QAM can have two HD channels with no more compression than is employed by a HD station that has no subchannels.]
I am not so sure if you should be jealous. My feelings about FiOS are mixed:
  • First, fiber does not make the picture quality better. As soon as the fiber comes into your house it is converted to the same electrical signal that cable uses. Where one has a good cable signal, FiOS will be no better. Anyone who tells you different just doesn't know what they are talking about.
  • The boxes that Verizon uses in most areas are inferior to the boxes that TW uses. For example: the Motorola QIP boxes that is used in most areas do not allow "native resolution": You MUST chose one resolution (like 1080i) and everything else is converted to that. Well, with 720p broadcasts you suffer a loss of quality when that happens. Fortunately, for me, they are using newer Cisco boxes in my area.
  • Their guide is riddled with advertisements (though you can set up a custom guide)
  • Some of my wife's favorite channels are not in HD (though they have both East and West cost feeds of HBO & Showtime).
  • Getting an On Demand program is a pain: Requires twice the button pushes than TWC does.
  • Their phone service SUCKS:
  • --Accessing their answering service requires dialing an 10 digit number + a 4 digit passcode (TWC requires just *83)
  • --TWC has feature where they will e-mail an audio file with the message to you (real handy when we are traveling) FiOS does not.

I have a 30 day period to cancel - but I am told that TWC service here is pretty bad.

Wow!!! Some great info there..... I've got some ammo to go back to my brother with. smile.gif Thx!


FWIW, still no luck in regards to 13.1/WHAM via QAM. Neither my TV nor my HDHomerun box are able to find it, any only that channel is missing. Not sure what to think/do at this point. Wondering if I may simply be out of luck.
post #2337 of 2482
OK, got a new glitch to report with TWC's DVR.

I had several shows not record this week. This is not new. What IS new is that there was no entry in the log for the missed recordings indicating "channel unavailable" or anything like that.

Once it happened for the 3rd time, I started experimenting with my Series Manager. It turned out that about half of the series manager entries had channel number -1 showing once you clicked down into the entry. On the main series list, you'd see the right channel, but if you drilled down to the options menu, you'd see -1. Deleting the series recording and resetting seems to have worked (for now). I deleted the others, so that I didn't forget to recreate them when the shows come back in the fall.

Anyone else seen this one? Is there a better fix? Does it signify a dying box or anything like that, or just a glitch that happened somewhere along the line?
post #2338 of 2482
Which dvr?
post #2339 of 2482
Dave, I always believed that FIOS would deliver a better picture because they did less compression of the video bandwidth, because they had more total available...was I merely hoping that was the case?
Ron
post #2340 of 2482
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Originally Posted by LI_Grenadier View Post

OK, got a new glitch to report with TWC's DVR.

I had several shows not record this week. This is not new. What IS new is that there was no entry in the log for the missed recordings indicating "channel unavailable" or anything like that.

Once it happened for the 3rd time, I started experimenting with my Series Manager. It turned out that about half of the series manager entries had channel number -1 showing once you clicked down into the entry. On the main series list, you'd see the right channel, but if you drilled down to the options menu, you'd see -1. Deleting the series recording and resetting seems to have worked (for now). I deleted the others, so that I didn't forget to recreate them when the shows come back in the fall.

Anyone else seen this one? Is there a better fix? Does it signify a dying box or anything like that, or just a glitch that happened somewhere along the line?

I've had this same problem before. The problem in my experience is a one time software glitch. The only fix is to delete them from the series manager & put them back in.

Dave I'm jealous that you are the only one on here with fios. A lot of people here in batavia has been begging verizon for years to bring fios here but we're stuck with their copper network. Speaking of verizon i just read on stop the cap their bringing their phone only voicelink product to the buffalo area which means if my verizon phone & web goes down they'll force me to get their voicelink wireless service & call verizon wireless for web instead of fixing the copper wiring OR Hello TWC Triple Play Package.

Here is a link to the article http://stopthecap.com/2013/07/22/verizon-voice-link-expanding-into-buffalo-watertown-in-upstate-n-y-fios-expansion-fuggedaboutit/
Edited by MPNASCAR24 - 7/24/13 at 4:55pm
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