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post #2371 of 2482
Correct, the tuner takes the cable card and it requires a tuning adapter for the sdv channels. The tuner that I have is external usb about the size of new roku box.

W7/8 MC can tune both channels, qam, sdv and ota.

W7 works with most extenders. w8 does not work with the extenders I have. I expect that it will work with the XBOX 360, XBOX One is tbd.
post #2372 of 2482
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

What kind of tuner are you considering?

I was thinking of a HDHomeRun. Definitely would like a network cc tuner.

Was your house already wired for cable or did TW do that. If TW did they help you setup your cc? Can you tell me the steps/process you went through to activate the cc?
post #2373 of 2482
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Originally Posted by davehancock View Post

I'll answer part of this: The CableCard has NO tuners! It's only purpose is to decode the bit stream (usually) from a tuner. Most CableCards these days are M-cards (Multistream) and can decode up to 6 channels. The older S-cards could only decode 1 channel.

One specific limitation in most (if not all) applications is that you cannot access ON-demand channels, and unless your application can use a "tuning adapter" you cannot access SDV channels (and TW has lots of those). I understand that some PC applications can drive a tuning adapter, but I don't know which ones (as I am not into that). The real issue with On Demand and with SDV is that the device receiving the material (usually a DVR) must signal back to the cable system exactly what program it wants to watch, the cable system then provides that requested bit stream. But if the receiving device cannot transmit that signal back, then the cable system has no way to know what to send. The tuning adapter was originally developed specifically for TiVo to allow the TiVo to record SDV channels. As far as I know, the tuning adapter DOES NOT WORK FOR ON DEMAND.

My limited knowledge say you can get demand and payperview via sms or phone. Do you know anything definite about that?
post #2374 of 2482
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Originally Posted by ClickCardo View Post

My limited knowledge say you can get demand and payperview via sms or phone. Do you know anything definite about that?

I heard directly from TW on demand & Pay Per View programming can only be used on their set top boxes. They won't work on cablecard devices & their is no sms or phone ordering. Only satellite tv has phone ordering.
post #2375 of 2482
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Originally Posted by ClickCardo View Post

Was your house already wired for cable or did TW do that. If TW did they help you setup your cc? Can you tell me the steps/process you went through to activate the cc?

Yes it was wired. They just sent me the cc and ta. I called and had it activated, it took about an hour for them to get it right.

This is not a particularly wife friendly solution, but if you have a 360 it might work pretty well.
post #2376 of 2482
Well the latest 8300 trick was to lose sound. Reboot, sound is back, but drive is gone. Reboot again and all is well. First time the sound has gone. I'm still on a 1 week reboot schedule to keep the thing running.

On the htpc front, the pc lost the second drive some how. The drive was fine. When I put it back together it was not booting... I haven't had the time to troubleshoot it yet.
post #2377 of 2482
Anyone else having problems with espn 1 and 2 on straight Standard cable.

Update now that ive tried other channels. it seems all the analog channels are not working. They look frozen.

Another update. When i call tw its a busy signal... eek.gif


Last update. Its fixed. was out for like an hour
Edited by shibez - 9/16/13 at 5:23pm
post #2378 of 2482
This probably don't mean much. But it appears the joint-sales, shared-services, local marketing agreement between Sinclair-owned Fox station WUHF, and Nexstar-owned CBS station WROC will end on December 31. From this Democrat & Chronicle article posted earlier last week, WUHF will form a new LMA with WHAM. WHAM will be producing its morning and evening newscasts on WUHF, which will start January 1st. Newscasts that air on WHAM-DT2 will be replaced with syndicated shows. This comes after Sinclair bought the non-license asset of WHAM last December, and assign the license to Deerfield Media.

I was wondering when that WROC/WUHF SSA would end.
post #2379 of 2482
Seems to me that the channel migration in the Rochester market went off without a hitch. Anyone experiencing anything bad after this cut-over to the new numbering?
post #2380 of 2482
Only Rochester's Channel Lineup changes on October 15th. Everybody else which includes me here in Genesee County don't get the new lineup until tomorrow.
post #2381 of 2482
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Originally Posted by csworldwide1 View Post

This probably don't mean much. But it appears the joint-sales, shared-services, local marketing agreement between Sinclair-owned Fox station WUHF, and Nexstar-owned CBS station WROC will end on December 31. From this Democrat & Chronicle article posted earlier last week, WUHF will form a new LMA with WHAM. WHAM will be producing its morning and evening newscasts on WUHF, which will start January 1st. Newscasts that air on WHAM-DT2 will be replaced with syndicated shows. This comes after Sinclair bought the non-license asset of WHAM last December, and assign the license to Deerfield Media.

I was wondering when that WROC/WUHF SSA would end.

The ROC/UHF agreement ends at the moment it begins with WHAM. I see they will do this transition on new years eve, though I'll bet the actual switch over will happen sometime overnight or early morning, as the transmitter control will have a hot switch from one buildings control (on Humboldt) to another (on West Henrietta Road). It will be a little weird because on Dec. 31st you will see Fox Rochester News from the Channel 8 on-air people, with their news set, and the very next day, you will see the same broadcast from Ch. 13 people at their set. The music and graphics may change as well. For those who aren't prepared, it will be quite a shock.

This is a classic example of companies side stepping the FCC limits on station ownership...effectively snubbing their noses at the FCC,....by simply having "proxy" owners to "hold" the licence.
post #2382 of 2482
Love the new line up, although, all things considered, the old line up really wasn’t that bad if you ignored the groupings of the HD channels. Better than most other TW line ups that’s for sure. Fox Business HD on 1022 and Bloomberg HD on 1183 or whatever it was. 1000-1200 was just a mess.
I see MSG Zone 2 is now gone, the channel that used to be on 235. And I see still no MSG Plus here in the west, even though it’s listed as 319 across all Rochester division line ups. I do not like the mess of channels in the 700s. Considering the MLB and NHL packages share the same channels and the MLS and NBA packages share the same numbers, I don’t understand why everything duplicated. It would also be nice not to have both the SD and HD channels. Maybe NHL1HD-NHL9HD and then have the SD feeds for NHL10-NHL14, but then again I think even though they try, it isn’t 100% where iNDemand will show games in SD only on the higher channels. So may be an iNDemand thing not TW. It is nice to have MLB StrikeZone and ESPN GoalLine somewhere other than the 1550s.

The college football channels in the 390s kind of baffle me. For years there were two extra college football channels in the 1500s that showed NCAA football games that were exclusive to ESPN 3, the picture quality was horrid and looked like a 16 bit Nintendo game. Then a few weeks ago they added 6 more that basically mirror the ESPN Game Plan games. Not sure what the point is. Just looked over the line up again and it looks like they left enough open spaces inbetween PAC 12 Network and Big Ten Network for if we ever do see all of the PAC 12 feeds and 387 looks like the perfect spot for the future SEC Network.

All of my scheduled recording appear to be intact. The channel line up change must have completed around 3:30 this morning. Before I left for work, I noticed I had a partial recording of The Ultimate Fighter on FS1 on the new channel #, starting at 3:26AM even though I stayed up last night, watched it live at 10 and deleted it right away. The encore presentation of what was supposed to be an all new South Park recorded at 1AM on the old # for Comedy Central HD, so it looks like sometime in-between 1:30 and roughly 3:30 is when the channels were being moved, and then a minute or two after 4 this morning the box rebooted.
post #2383 of 2482
I also like the new lineup from TW. I'll have to get used to some of the new channel numbers but that shouldn't take long. I like how all the stations are HD only or SD only, no more HD & SD versions of the same channel which is a good thing especially for people who still watch SD Channel Numbers on HDTV's. All of my scheduled recording & timers are also intact so i'm glad i didn't have to fix anything in their. On my Digital Adapter all of the HD channels i had with the old lineup except for TLC HD, Spike HD & Tru TV HD are still available on their new channel numbers. I'm wondering how the lineup change went for cablecard users on here. Hope it went ok for you folks.
post #2384 of 2482
Everyone that used the D&C sd listings for sports channels just got a better picture!
post #2385 of 2482

Hi Fellow Rochesterians!

 

I have a HTPC running Windows 7 Home with the Haupauge 2250 TV Tuner and using Windows Media Center for my viewing and recording.    I get the basic cable service from TW the one that costs about $15 and used to get me about 16 channels including all the local HDs 8.1, 10.1 etc.    As of this week I can't get any of the digital channels.   I have been reading a ton of forum posts on TW's lineup change and how I may have to re-add channels but I haven't had any luck getting my system back to a good state.

 

I have unplugged the coax from the 2250 tuner and plugged it into my TV and after a scan it gets all the channels I had before, but doing the scan using the 2250 and Media center only gets one HD channel, and it is mapped to 4.1 or something strange like that.   

 

I wonder if I am screwed, or if the channels are there am I just missing something in the WMC setup.???    Everything has been working great for a couple of years.  I would really appreciate any info, this has been pretty frustrating.  

 

Sorry if I jumped this thread..please feel free to direct me elsewhere if necessary

 

Thanks!

post #2386 of 2482
Did you try calling them? It wouldn't surprise me if they scrambled all the hd channels. They've been giving out adapters for free (this year) that allow you to get them. I thought the plan was to scramble them in Jan, but maybe they jumped the gun.

Just get an OTA antenna and get them that way, that's what I do. It's generally a better picture.
post #2387 of 2482
To me it sounds like TW did something to the digital signals in your area that made them incompatible with your tuner since you said you can still get them with your TV's built in tuner. If you call TW all they'll say is you need a box or a cablecard in order to get digital signals so don't bother calling them. I would try doing another channel scan & check your WMP setup.

gregoryperkins where did you hear TW was going to scramble the locals in January?
post #2388 of 2482
MPNASCAR24, I believe that TWC has said that most of the channels on the basic tier, the ones that you can run through a cable line directly into your TV, are going to be switched. I also understood that the local channels would still be available through a QAM tuner, but you may lose channels such as FoodTV, HGTV, etc
post #2389 of 2482
So all of the remaining analog channels may be gone in January? If that's what i'm hearing on here why didn't TWC tell me anything about this. I haven't used any of the analog channels since i got my digital adapter after CMT went all digital.
post #2390 of 2482
May be, not definitly. They were just starting the process by offering the adapters. I wouldn't be panicking yet.
post #2391 of 2482
Both of my cable connected tv's have a box (1 DVR & 1 DTA) so i won't panic when or if all the analog channels disappear but my sister will panic because none of her tv's currently have a box because her current landlord was nice enough to add standard cable to their rent.
post #2392 of 2482
Yeah, it sucks but they got the ok to scramble everything, google around and you'll find it. They will give you small boxes, free this year, a buck a month next year. I never use mine, so I can't say what is currently on. They do not work well with long runs, so you may need a truck roll to run good cable to remote locations. Neither box worked in the upstairs bedrooms, but a real TW all channel box did.
Edited by gregoryperkins - 10/21/13 at 5:03pm
post #2393 of 2482
Quote:
Originally Posted by MPNASCAR24 View Post

Both of my cable connected tv's have a box (1 DVR & 1 DTA) so i won't panic when or if all the analog channels disappear but my sister will panic because none of her tv's currently have a box because her current landlord was nice enough to add standard cable to their rent.

Your sisters landlord will need to get the boxes. They support hdmi and regular cable out.
post #2394 of 2482
I just did a scan on my bedroom tv and still get the digitals over cable.
post #2395 of 2482
I just found this post that talks about Navigator Updates that we may be getting soon. But i'm confused on exactly what boxes the new updates will apply to since it says not all boxes will get it. It does say all boxes will have DVR Compensation again.

http://forums.timewarnercable.com/t5/Equipment/Enhanced-Navigator-Update-GRADUALLY-Begins-Roll-Out/m-p/10327
post #2396 of 2482
I'm not getting any sdv channels today. I rebooted the box and no luck. Anyone else having this problem?
post #2397 of 2482
A tw reboot fixed the problem.
post #2398 of 2482
I just tried the new espn app for Roku. It looks as good as the tw broadcast. It's about time!
post #2399 of 2482
The DVR Compensation feature returned to my TW DVR today. It's about time smile.gif. I also noticed on my bill they changed the names for their packages & they got all of the programming tiers & equipment listed separately instead of saying digital cable package. They even put the guide on that list with a price tag of $0.44. Below are the new names.

Basic Cable is now Starter TV
Standard Cable is now Standard TV
Digital Basic Tier is now Variety TV
Digital Cable Package is now called Preferred TV
post #2400 of 2482
Yes, Rochester got hit with 7.205 last night. The return of DVR compensation, a true HD guide that now displays 7 channels across 2 hours worth of time, all other graphics are HD, folders and cover art for recorded content, enhancements to the search, the ability to sort the guide in alphabetical order and the new On Demand Portal on channel 999, which I absolutely love the idea of. No need to have 20 channels of On Demand when it can be accessed off of one screen. This all looks pretty sharp.

And the HD channels keep coming. Sprout HD and Inspiration HD added recently. Aspire HD, Ovation HD and El Rey HD are on the way.
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