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post #4231 of 4353
Mine does the same thing I wouldnt worry about it.
post #4232 of 4353
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Originally Posted by Ducky990
I have another question and I hope you guys can help. The OTA antenna that I got from D* does not seem to work I barely get static, and it's mounted on the roof! The installer told me that it is crappy and I should get a better one. I live in South Boston, about 10 miles from the broadcast towers. Can anyone suggest a good antenna? I want the best.
Thanks
i agree with alan AND the installer, Ducky. it is a crappy antenna but from where you are, pretty much anything should work well. i would try an indoor antenna first though , like alan said, it's a hell of allot simpler and easier.

if your like me though, you'll want to go all out. :D in this case, go here and you'll find everything you need to know. look for the big button near the top called "antenna recommendations for major metro areas".
post #4233 of 4353
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Originally Posted by AlanSaysYo
I've had my replacement HR10-250 for a few months from now and it's been working fine, so naturally it's time for another problem. I've never even heard of this happening before...

The video coming from my box over HDMI has somehow streched off the right side of the screen. The best way to explain it is to say that it seems as if the picture is being pulled to the right and some of it is being cut off. You really can't tell anything's wrong until you see that station logos in the lower right corner are cut off, and that the right pillarbox in 4:3 mode is thinner than the left, by as much as an inch on a 57 inch screen. I checked my TV's picture size and verified it was correct, and I also checked video from a DVD player and three video game sources, all of which display correctly. I even rebooted the HR10-250 with no luck.

I'm reasonably sure this is a problem with the receiver and not the TV... when I force the TV itself to display vertical sidebars with a 4:3 image in the center, the bars are the correct size. Yet when I display the bars using the receiver's controls, the right bar is noticably smaller. I have yet to try another video source in the same input and right now I'm letting the receiver sit unplugged just to make sure a full reboot won't help.

Any suggestions? Anyone ever see anything like this happen before?
this really sounds like a problem with the TV's input, alan, but you gotta get another source in there and check it out. if the other source is fine, you know it's the HR10.

to answer your question, i've never heard of this before with the HR10.
post #4234 of 4353
Ducky...I don't know how new to HD you are so if this sounds foolish it isn't my intent, but I know I run into this whenever I have an installer from DirecTV come out because they don't normally know much about the OTA world.

You must first make sure you have the HR10-250 search for a digital signal otherwise it will not work and "static" shouldn't be the issue for digital...the channel would either be there or not.

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Originally Posted by Ducky990
I have another question and I hope you guys can help. The OTA antenna that I got from D* does not seem to work I barely get static, and it's mounted on the roof! The installer told me that it is crappy and I should get a better one. I live in South Boston, about 10 miles from the broadcast towers. Can anyone suggest a good antenna? I want the best.
Thanks
post #4235 of 4353
I have a weird problem with my HDTIVO that just started about a month ago. Basically, it stopped receiving any OTA Digital stations on both tuners. OTA Analog and all DirecTv (HD and non-HD) are fine. I've tried hooking up my old Zenith HD SAT 520, and that receives all stations just fine. When I checked the signal strength, it just bounces back and forth really quickly, from 80 or so to 10 or 20. It seems like it just won't lock onto a signal. I figure warranty repair, but any ideas or hear of anything similar?
post #4236 of 4353
Hi all. Aplogies if this has been over before.

When using the "up arrow" to cycle through different output resolutions, I notice that the color settings change drastically when moving from 480i/p to 720p and 1080i. That is - the same color/brightness/contrast pallette appears to be used for the 480i and 480p rez choices, but a totally different set of colors, etc.. seems to be in use for 720p and 1080i.

Anyone else notice this? I don't do much viewing in either of the 480s, but WOW, it is a night and day change in the display parameters.
post #4237 of 4353
I had the same problem and ended up solving it by using a -6db attenuator. It was getting to strong a signal I guess. I sent one back with the same problem before I figured this out. When I was trying to figure it out I was stunned to see that if I barely put the antenna on the antenna input the signal was fine but if I really screwed it on like it was supposed to be the signal crapped out.
post #4238 of 4353
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Originally Posted by cswartze
I have a weird problem with my HDTIVO that just started about a month ago. Basically, it stopped receiving any OTA Digital stations on both tuners. OTA Analog and all DirecTv (HD and non-HD) are fine. I've tried hooking up my old Zenith HD SAT 520, and that receives all stations just fine. When I checked the signal strength, it just bounces back and forth really quickly, from 80 or so to 10 or 20. It seems like it just won't lock onto a signal. I figure warranty repair, but any ideas or hear of anything similar?
I had the similar problem and ended up solving it by using a -6db attenuator. It was getting to strong a signal I guess. I sent one back with the same problem before I figured this out. When I was trying to figure it out I was stunned to see that if I barely put the antenna on the antenna input the signal was fine but if I really screwed it on like it was supposed to be the signal crapped out.
post #4239 of 4353
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Originally Posted by Schwingding
Hi all. Aplogies if this has been over before.

When using the "up arrow" to cycle through different output resolutions, I notice that the color settings change drastically when moving from 480i/p to 720p and 1080i. That is - the same color/brightness/contrast pallette appears to be used for the 480i and 480p rez choices, but a totally different set of colors, etc.. seems to be in use for 720p and 1080i.

Anyone else notice this? I don't do much viewing in either of the 480s, but WOW, it is a night and day change in the display parameters.
Here are two items that affect what you are seeing when switching resolutions on your HD TiVo.

1. The color fidelity/range available for HDTV is FAR greater than that for NTSC (480i) broadcast TV. 480p and DVDs appear to stretch the typical 480i world a bit, but nothing like the computer-display-equvalent HD colors.

2. On my HDTVs (and perhaps yours) there are different memory settings for different resolutions on a given input. You can make color/tint/contrast/brightness (etc.) settings when viewing HDTV in 1080i or 720p that do not affect 480i/480p. Likewise, you can make separate settings for 480i/p when viewing in those resolutions. These capabilities vary on different models of HDTVs.

For 480i viewing, I set the vidoe options more like I would on an analog TV, in part because that is how we are used to watching non-HD TV. For HD viewing, I take a completely different approach that minimizes altering the picture (i.e., sharpness and SVM OFF) and takes advantage of the color range and dynamic range possible with HDTV.

There are likely other factors that play into the differences you see, but these two came to mind immediately when I read your post.
post #4240 of 4353
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Originally Posted by Budget_HT
...The color fidelity/range available for HDTV is FAR greater than that for NTSC (480i) broadcast TV. 480p and DVDs appear to stretch the typical 480i world a bit, but nothing like the computer-display-equvalent HD colors...
To expand a bit, there are separate and distinct color standards for NTSC (analog) and ATSC (digital). Your TV tries to select the appropriate color standard depending on the signal it receives. Many TVs have a user option for 480p, which can help DVDs look very much like HTDV programming, even without an upconverting player.

In any case, the phenomenon you describe, Schwingding, doesn't have anything to do with the HR10-250, per se, but rather what kind of signal you are sending your TV.
post #4241 of 4353
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Originally Posted by BrettRyan
Ducky...I don't know how new to HD you are so if this sounds foolish it isn't my intent, but I know I run into this whenever I have an installer from DirecTV come out because they don't normally know much about the OTA world.

You must first make sure you have the HR10-250 search for a digital signal otherwise it will not work and "static" shouldn't be the issue for digital...the channel would either be there or not.
I follow you. The HR10-250 had no signal, however, when I put the antenna directly in to my TV (Pioneer Media center) I got static, probably just the analog channels. I fear it is my location that is dooming me.
Thanks for the input!
post #4242 of 4353
Connected a new Samsung HLS-6187W TV to a 10-250 box. Component inputs work fine but with HDMI therre is no audio on channels broadcasting Dolby Digital 5.1. HDMI sound works fine on non 5.1 broadcasts. Is this an inherent problem with the Directv box? Changing HDMI cables makes no difference. Thanks.
post #4243 of 4353
brian,

Odds are your TV cannot decode DD 5.1, so the audio via HDMI to your TV is incompatible. If you turn off the DD 5.1, the HD TiVo sends a downmixed stereo audio signal that should play fine on your HDTV (at least it does on mine).

I no longer use the TV audio and instead use the optical connection to my A/V receiver.

Another work around is to use analog L+R audio connections from the HD TiVo to your TV, if the TV offers a choice of HDMI audio or analog audio. Mine does and I used it that way for a few months until I got the A/V receiver I wanted installed. In this configuration, you can leave DD 5.1 turned on in the HD TiVo.
post #4244 of 4353
Quote:
Originally Posted by cswartze
I have a weird problem with my HDTIVO that just started about a month ago. Basically, it stopped receiving any OTA Digital stations on both tuners. OTA Analog and all DirecTv (HD and non-HD) are fine. I've tried hooking up my old Zenith HD SAT 520, and that receives all stations just fine. When I checked the signal strength, it just bounces back and forth really quickly, from 80 or so to 10 or 20. It seems like it just won't lock onto a signal. I figure warranty repair, but any ideas or hear of anything similar?
I had a similar problem for awhile and ended up getting my box replaced. The rep on the phone said a switch inside the box may have been bad. Some stations came in fine, but others jumped up and down in signal strength, and the second tuner never got as strong a signal as the first. A replacement box hooked up to the same antenna fixed the problem.
post #4245 of 4353
A lot of people have had this problem over at the Tivo Community. One guy bypassed the internal splitter and ran a pair of cables from his antenna to the ATSC tuners and solved everything. It was a few months ago so some searching will be necessary.

-Robert
post #4246 of 4353
Thanks to both of you guys who responded to my query. I'll have to check on my TV's ability to allow separate settings for the different resolutions. (Panasonic PX60U plasma).

What you have said makes sense, and I did calibrate my set using a Denon 2910 DVD player outputting to 720p and fed through the same unit (Yamaha HTR 5990) as the HR10-250 into the TV/HDMI - adding to your theory because the TV only has a single HDMI input connected to it. My set may be using defaults for 480i/p.
post #4247 of 4353
Brian - Dave hit it on the head.. in my case - my hitachi 51f510 can not decode dd5.1 and as a result, no sound unless I turn off 5.1 in the hdtivo or use analog audio cables.

jim


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Originally Posted by Budget_HT
brian,

Odds are your TV cannot decode DD 5.1, so the audio via HDMI to your TV is incompatible. If you turn off the DD 5.1, the HD TiVo sends a downmixed stereo audio signal that should play fine on your HDTV (at least it does on mine).

I no longer use the TV audio and instead use the optical connection to my A/V receiver.

Another work around is to use analog L+R audio connections from the HD TiVo to your TV, if the TV offers a choice of HDMI audio or analog audio. Mine does and I used it that way for a few months until I got the A/V receiver I wanted installed. In this configuration, you can leave DD 5.1 turned on in the HD TiVo.
post #4248 of 4353
I have a question about burn-in. I currently owner of a Pioneer Plasma (PDP-5040HD) TV and over the weekend I upgraded to the HD TiVo HR10-250 DVR. This DVR has a option of what color to use when viewing a 4:3 picture. The options are Grey or Black. What color should I use, so I won't need to worry about burn-in.

Thanks in advance.

Bill
post #4249 of 4353
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Originally Posted by Schwingding
Thanks to both of you guys who responded to my query. I'll have to check on my TV's ability to allow separate settings for the different resolutions. (Panasonic PX60U plasma).

What you have said makes sense, and I did calibrate my set using a Denon 2910 DVD player outputting to 720p and fed through the same unit (Yamaha HTR 5990) as the HR10-250 into the TV/HDMI - adding to your theory because the TV only has a single HDMI input connected to it. My set may be using defaults for 480i/p.
You should be able to adjust your Panasonic if you wish to do so.

Mine's a couple of generations older, and has a "Color Matrix" setting that lets you choose which color standard you want for 480p signals. Mine only works with the component input, though, not HDMI.

The name may have changed, but I'd guess the functionality is still there on the new ones. May even work with HDMI now.
post #4250 of 4353
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Originally Posted by Action378
I have a question about burn-in. I currently owner of a Pioneer Plasma (PDP-5040HD) TV and over the weekend I upgraded to the HD TiVo HR10-250 DVR. This DVR has a option of what color to use when viewing a 4:3 picture. The options are Grey or Black. What color should I use, so I won't need to worry about burn-in.

Thanks in advance.

Bill
Grey would be best but I still wouldn't make a habit of leaving a static image on the screen for too long. If you view a lot of 4x3 material you should try and offset it with some 16x9 material, and if your display has the capability, and if it doesn't bother you too much, using a non-linear stretch mode when viewing 4x3 material will help also.
post #4251 of 4353
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Originally Posted by Budget_HT
brian,

Odds are your TV cannot decode DD 5.1, so the audio via HDMI to your TV is incompatible. If you turn off the DD 5.1, the HD TiVo sends a downmixed stereo audio signal that should play fine on your HDTV (at least it does on mine).

I no longer use the TV audio and instead use the optical connection to my A/V receiver.

Another work around is to use analog L+R audio connections from the HD TiVo to your TV, if the TV offers a choice of HDMI audio or analog audio. Mine does and I used it that way for a few months until I got the A/V receiver I wanted installed. In this configuration, you can leave DD 5.1 turned on in the HD TiVo.
Jim and Dave - Thanks. I guess HDMI to a TV is pretty much for the video only - kind of a pain when you lose audio for selected broadcasts - I hear from my wife that we splurged a lot for a TV which loses sound (LOL). At least the optical to the receiver and component inputs work fine.

Brian
post #4252 of 4353
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Originally Posted by Jeff Whitford
Mine does the same thing I wouldnt worry about it.
Jeff, I am not worried that it will hurt anything but it is very bothersome when channel surfing.
post #4253 of 4353
From satellite guys, looks like the tivo hd dvr is free if you sign up for sunday ticket, but also the mpeg 4 dvr wont be out until november....no surprise:

"I just got off the phone with the D* retention dept. After talking to someone in the HD department about getting a HD-DVR (he couldn't do any better that $499.00, I hung up and called retention. The csr was very pleasant and kept repeating the standard line, "I see your one of our preferred customers," I told him the same thing......., 'I WANT A HD-DVR' AND I DON'T WANT TO PAY $499.00 FOR IT!!!

After a few seconds, he came back with a new promotion offer D* is giving out. If I sign up for NFL Sunday Ticket this season, then I can have the HR10-250 for $0.00. Now understand that the NFLST was a total of $229.00 for the season (payable all at once or in 5 monthly installs of $45.80.) I thought about and said OK! He also threw in 3 months of HBO free (which is okay, but there's hardly ever anything on there that interests me much).

Also, when the new HR20-250 comes out (he was adament that it will be in November of the year) I will get to swap the 10-250 for the 20-250 for no cost. I know, I know, I'll have that battle when the time comes because the rules will probably change by then..........AGAIN!!! But I really needed a DVR for my main HD system (I now have the H20, which I like very much, but missed the DVR capabilities I have in the bedroom - where the standard TIVO box is.) While I was reluctant to do this the last few months I just couldn't take missing shows and not being able to replay that moment in the games I just missed because I was in the kitchen getting another beer..........."
post #4254 of 4353
Did they say you'd get the Sunday Ticket games in HD or do you still have to pay for the "Superfan" package to get HD games?
post #4255 of 4353
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Originally Posted by TVBob
After a few seconds, he came back with a new promotion offer D* is giving out. If I sign up for NFL Sunday Ticket this season, then I can have the HR10-250 for $0.00. Now understand that the NFLST was a total of $229.00 for the season (payable all at once or in 5 monthly installs of $45.80.) I thought about and said OK! He also threw in 3 months of HBO free (which is okay, but there's hardly ever anything on there that interests me much).
Just be aware that "Sunday Ticket" automaticaly renews each year (or at least it use to) unless you explicitly call and cancel before the start of the next years' season. ....
post #4256 of 4353
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Originally Posted by dturturro
Did they say you'd get the Sunday Ticket games in HD or do you still have to pay for the "Superfan" package to get HD games?

I was not aware of Sunday ticket HD broadcasts. How many games will there be in HD?
post #4257 of 4353
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Originally Posted by Bronco70
I was not aware of Sunday ticket HD broadcasts. How many games will there be in HD?
Over 110 they say this year!
post #4258 of 4353
Ill believe it when I see it. That would require using channels like 90, 91, 92, I don't even know if there is enough, and they haven't used more than a few at a time before.
post #4259 of 4353
last year they shut off all ppv to get bandwith (HD and SD) for sunday ticket - cbs did 3 games and fox did 6 - I remember reading that would be the case this year as well.. however, next year - I believe all games must be in hd as per the new tv contracts

jim

edit: HD games were in the 700's last year
post #4260 of 4353
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Originally Posted by jim tressler
last year they shut off all ppv to get bandwith (HD and SD) for sunday ticket - cbs did 3 games and fox did 6 - I remember reading that would be the case this year as well.. however, next year - I believe all games must be in hd as per the new tv contracts

jim

edit: HD games were in the 700's last year

Thanks guys,

Sounds like I need to investigate D*'s deal on this upcoming football season. The ability to surf games in HD will make me and my son quite happy. I'll just have to adjust the weekly schedule to make sure I don't hear "honey, when are you going to do..."

NFL games + HD + 133" screen = heaven.

Joe
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