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post #2191 of 2239
Now that I re read your statement, I am looking to just burn to standard DVD and play on a standard DVD. so I guess trying to burn a ts file to DVD is not going to work for me. I need to convert it as originaly stated to a format that I can burn to a standard DVD for standard DVD playback,,,
post #2192 of 2239
Then, as I said before, the free tool designed for such down-rez butchery of HDTV files is HDTV2DVD. (You must down-rez HDTV to play it on a standard DVD player)
post #2193 of 2239
Boy, what an idiot I feel like,,, I think I simply overwhelmed myself here to absorb all this A/V knowledge, I admit again, this is not my field. in the process, Instead of downloading HDTVtoDVD, I downloaded and installed HDTVtoMPEG2,,, DOH!!!!! This is why I was having dificulty burning from it? Anyway, I wound up creating an mpg from a ts file using VideoReDo Plus, but I cant seem to find any features in Video redo to burn, so I have Pinnacal 12. and used that to burn to DVD. It worked, but seemed a bit sluggish? I will look at better options. While Im on the subject, I looked thru the variouse software i have to see what was available to burn a ts file directly to DVD, just to try it, and I could find no features in anyof them to do this. I currently have the following:

Windows XP Pro with Windows movie maker
CapDVHS
VLC
Video ReDo Plus
HDTVtoMPEG2
Pinnacle Studio 12
Pinnacle Instand DVD
(soon to download HDTVtoDVD)

Which of these items should have a feature to burn directly to a DVD, because I went through all the tabs looking, and saw no burn features? Thanks
post #2194 of 2239
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Originally Posted by Fakum View Post

While Im on the subject, I looked thru the variouse software i have to see what was available to burn a ts file directly to DVD, just to try it, and I could find no features in anyof them to do this.

In this case think of a TS file as any other data file. Simply copy the file to a DVD with your available software. Then use VLC, a media player, MyHD, etc. to play the file. Be aware, some DVD drives will not play the file without playback issues and a single layer DVD will only hold about 30 minutes of HD content. A standalone DVD player will not play this file(s) at all.
post #2195 of 2239
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Originally Posted by Fakum View Post

I wound up creating an mpg from a ts file using VideoReDo Plus, but I cant seem to find any features in Video redo to burn

For VideoReDo Plus, look under File, then select Save Video to DVD (Ctrl+Shift+S). I have never used this feature as I have no interest in going from HD video to SD video.
post #2196 of 2239
"A standalone DVD player will not play this file(s) at all."

Now thats also interesting! I got the impression from several posts here that if you recorded something and kept it in ts format, you would not degrade the HD quality. I assumed that would be the approach if you wanted to copy that content on an HD DVD so you could play it back on an HD DVD player , like a home entertainment system? To say ""A standalone DVD player will not play this file(s) at all."Implies to me that you can not record anything onto any type of DVD to play it back on your home entertainment system. Am I mis interpreting? I currently do not have anything more than the DVD burner on my PC and a DVD player that is inherent of my Bose system "Lifestyle 24 or something like that"?
post #2197 of 2239
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Originally Posted by Fakum View Post

Now thats also interesting! I got the impression from several posts here that if you recorded something and kept it in ts format, you would not degrade the HD quality. I assumed that would be the approach if you wanted to copy that content on an HD DVD so you could play it back on an HD DVD player , like a home entertainment system? To say ""A standalone DVD player will not play this file(s) at all."Implies to me that you can not record anything onto any type of DVD to play it back on your home entertainment system. Am I mis interpreting? I currently do not have anything more than the DVD burner on my PC and a DVD player that is inherent of my Bose system "Lifestyle 24 or something like that"?

A .ts file isn't packaged in a way that a standalone player will know what to do with it. Just because the contents are HD doesn't mean you can just put the file onto an optical disc and expect any player to play it. Also note that the other poster was referring to a DVD player - NOT a HD DVD player as those are 2 different animals. Ignoring players that will play media through USB ports and such, a regular DVD player won't play any HD content at all.
post #2198 of 2239
I imagine that this has been addressed, so please be lenient and patient with me. I'm using a MyHD 120 card and want to convert timeshift files (approximately a 2 hour segment of programming) using HDTVtoMPEG2. I've run into this problem before, being the fact that HDTVtoMPEG2 doesn't see the same sequencing as the MyHD timeshift playback function. For instance, right now I'm trying to convert timeshift(887).tp to timeshift(1179).tp into a single file, and in MyHD those are sequenced fine, but HDTVtoMPEG2 sees timeshift(887).tp as the first file after timeshift(1179).tp. My workaround for this before was to write a function in FoxPro that changed the file names so they would be properly sequenced. This is a bit tricky and it's easy to screw things up if not careful. Surely there has to be an easier way. My FoxPro code would go something like this:

Procedure oncerename
n=887
DO WHILE NOT N>1179
IF FILE("TIMESHIFT("+ALLTRIM(STR(n))+')'+'.TP')
RENAME ("TIMESHIFT("+ALLTRIM(STR(n))+')'+'.TP') TO ("TIMESHIFT("+ALLTRIM(STR(n-500))+')'+'.TP')
ENDIF
n=n+1
ENDDO
RETURN
post #2199 of 2239
If there are relatively few files that H2M misorders, you can use its drag-n-drop feature to correct the ordering. Otherwise, I think that either your renaming approach or a similar batch file to concatenate the files makes more sense.
post #2200 of 2239
It's been a long time since I did what you want and perhaps not as long of a segment, but I have joined MyHD segmented timeshift files in the past and do not recall any problem with the ordering of them if I sorted the files by name in the open dialog box when selecting them......
post #2201 of 2239
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Originally Posted by Muse View Post

I imagine that this has been addressed, so please be lenient and patient with me.

If you are going to edit the files then why not have the MDP-120 do them as a scheduled event? This way the file names will be properly sequenced by the MDP-120.
post #2202 of 2239
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Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland View Post

If you are going to edit the files then why not have the MDP-120 do them as a scheduled event? This way the file names will be properly sequenced by the MDP-120.

Yup, it would have been better.
post #2203 of 2239
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

If there are relatively few files that H2M misorders, you can use its drag-n-drop feature to correct the ordering. Otherwise, I think that either your renaming approach or a similar batch file to concatenate the files makes more sense.

I really am an HDTVtoMPEG2 noob. Reordering by drag-n-drop I don't comprehend. You mean in the HDTVtoMPEG2 file list itself? Concatenating the files I don't understand either. You mean I can join the actual timeshift files using a batch file?

Now maybe someone can speak to this:

I had recorded 5 1/2 hours timeshift mode in MyHD of channel 9-2 digital KQED, being a rebroadcast of the Ken Burns National Parks documentary, the last 3 of the 6 episode series, last Sunday afternoon. I have MyHD setup to record the one subchannel only. When I watched with MyHD the timeshift, the documentary was fine. I joined the timeshift files using HDTVtoMPEG2 into one big .ts file and when I watched that using MyHD I was watching different programming, WTF! I then noticed that D9-2 isn't even HD (MyHD showed it as 780 x 480 or something like that), and I just deleted the whole mess, rather perturbed about the whole thing! Comments appreciated!!
post #2204 of 2239
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Originally Posted by Muse View Post

I really am an HDTVtoMPEG2 noob. Reordering by drag-n-drop I don't comprehend. You mean in the HDTVtoMPEG2 file list itself?

Yes, as Tim also mentioned above.
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Concatenating the files I don't understand either. You mean I can join the actual timeshift files using a batch file?

Yes, you can combine TS files using the DOS COPY command, but doing several dozen or hundred at a time would best be done via a batch file using a FOR loop. (The drag-n-drop method is simpler if there aren't too many to re order)
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I had recorded 5 1/2 hours timeshift mode in MyHD of channel 9-2....

This is OT for this thread, but briefly, MyHD timeshifting buffer files are always full-TS, not subchannel-only, regardless of config settings. KQED 9.2 is never HD (despite the annoying misinformation in Schedules Direct listings).
post #2205 of 2239
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Yes, as Tim also mentioned above.Yes, you can combine TS files using the DOS COPY command, but doing several dozen or hundred at a time would best be done via a batch file using a FOR loop. (The drag-n-drop method is simpler if there aren't too many to re order)This is OT for this thread, but briefly, MyHD timeshifting buffer files are always full-TS, not subchannel-only, regardless of config settings. KQED 9.2 is never HD (despite the annoying misinformation in Schedules Direct listings).

Hi,

I have been trying for several years to remember and find the tool for doing this job I used before.

I just did remember after looking at 6 DVDs and or CDs with no success.

It's "TSJoiner" found low down on the SVCD2DVD web page.

TSJoiner will combine HDTVtoMPEG2 files.

But it does not work on MyHD Timeshift files as the names are "timeshift(XXXXX).tp".

Removing the "(" and ")" would make it work. I think some rename command will do this.

For sure this would guide someone how to do it.

Hey, Scripting Guy! How Can I Replace Incorrect Dates in My File Names?

http://blogs.technet.com/heyscriptin...ile-names.aspx

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TSJoiner is a simple utility to join up files which have been split up in a set. Many HDTV *.ts and *.tp files are like this. TSJoiner is a GUI which simply invokes the copy /b command.

Works on *.ts and *.tp files which have the following pattern to their name:

nameofmovieortvshowXXXX.ts where XXXX are digits.

(i.e. absolutely anything followed by one or more digits followed by .ts or .tp)

Just start TSJoiner then browse and open any file from the set to begin.

http://www.svcd2dvd.com/

SHF
post #2206 of 2239
Quote:
Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Yes, as Tim also mentioned above.Yes, you can combine TS files using the DOS COPY command, but doing several dozen or hundred at a time would best be done via a batch file using a FOR loop. (The drag-n-drop method is simpler if there aren't too many to re order)This is OT for this thread, but briefly, MyHD timeshifting buffer files are always full-TS, not subchannel-only, regardless of config settings... and ... KQED 9.2 is never HD (despite the annoying misinformation in Schedules Direct listings).

Thank you for this information and stepping over the topic restrictions. I wouldn't have known either of these facts hadn't you taken the trouble to confirm. I suspected that 9.2 wasn't in HD, but thought "why would they broadcast that documentary in SD when it's in HD?" Unbelievable!
post #2207 of 2239
Does anyone know what causes a .tp file to report a length error, I mean a big error?

i.e.- I loaded an OTA recorded program into HDTVtoMPEG2 and the length showed 14612h22m28s. Obviously this is in error. The file will not process correctly and the time line scrubbing controls do not work correctly.

Other OTA files work great, just having trouble with this one and I really would like to keep it.

Any suggestions?
post #2208 of 2239
I just remembered a good tool for renaming a group of files. It is DVHSTool. It can be found here. Some of us used this tool for transferring .TP (TS) files from HDs to D-VHS tapes back in the day.

Under Files select the files that you want to rename then click Rename. A new pane will open and you can select the file extension (Output format), File Name Prefix and the Start of Index.
post #2209 of 2239
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Originally Posted by burchis11 View Post

Does anyone know what causes a .tp file to report a length error, I mean a big error?

H2M gets its length estimate* by looking at the bitrate near the beginning of the file. Evidently something there is throwing that estimate into the weeds. I suggest that you try chopping off a portion of the beginning (maybe even 25% as an experiment) to see if that "fixes" the edited file's behavior in H2M. If so, you can try snipping smaller pieces off of the front end until you find the beginning of the "good" part.

*Edit: IIRC, that is, it does this. After posting, it occurred to me that I may not RC and it's using the beginning and ending timestamps in the file to get the length, in which case, the problem is with that counter's having wrapped over its highest value during the file. The fix in that case would be to run the file through an editor that resequences the timestamps--but I don't remember if H2M does that or not. (VRD would fix this file in either case, I think)
post #2210 of 2239
Terry (or anyone with experience with NAS drives)

For years I have used two MDP-120s for OTA recording and playback. One MDP-120 is in the office PC (for recording) and one MDP-120 is in the HTPC (for playback). The office PC is used to edit the recordings using HDTVtoMPEG v1.11.94 and the file is saved to pocket drive. A edited show is about 43 minutes and takes HDTVtoMPEG about 6-1/2 minutes to save the file to the pocket drive (which averages about 15.5 MB/s). The edited file is about 6GB.

I have only seen one NAS drive in use and it took that thing nearly an hour to transfer a 5GB file. I would like to replace the pocket drive with a NAS drive. Are you aware of any reasonably priced NAS drives that would approach the speed of the pocket drive? I have a Linksys router, it and the NICs are standard 100.0 Mbps devices.
post #2211 of 2239
I'm using a QNAP TS-239 Pro and D-Link DGS-2208. For me, H2 takes ~1 min 15 sec to process a show without preview on. H2 shows ~50-55MB/s rate. I can copy an ~8.5GB file from computer to NAS in less than 2 min.

I had tried NAS earlier on when they first came out and their performance was pitiful. But now with gigabit and higher end NAS, I'm pretty happy with the performance.

NAS Performance Charts
post #2212 of 2239
Wendell, your 100 Mbps LAN connections are going to limit file transfers to somewhere between 2 and 5 MBps regardless of the NAS speed. So if you go that route you should first upgrade to GBLan components, as Cris implied.
post #2213 of 2239
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Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland View Post

Terry (or anyone with experience with NAS drives)

... with a NAS drive. Are you aware of any reasonably priced NAS drives that would approach the speed of the pocket drive? I have a Linksys router, it and the NICs are standard 100.0 Mbps devices.

Hi,

As I am having serious problems with my NAS, four failures so far, but I was unable to recover from the last two, I do not recommend any, in particular the one I have. Two returns to Mexico so far. And a different Mfg. got a similar comment on the 8-bit forum I read. (Below)

The NAS transfer rate is determined by the network rate. Connecting a USB drive to the computer results in much faster transfers unless you have a network much faster than what you quote. Firewire is the fastest I believe.

I can point you to a forum with many horror stories including mine that will chill your bones.

And a discussion on a 8-bit computer forum that I OT asked for help yesterday and got a set of messages that helped me understand what to do if my 2TB NAS fails again. I can point you to that forum also.

A couple of months ago I got the same stupid idea and paid big $$$S for a 2TB NAS. Again, I was very stupid, I got nothing but a big set of problems that so far has prevented me from solving the original problem I got the NAS for.

SHF
post #2214 of 2239
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Originally Posted by Muse View Post

... I suspected that 9.2 wasn't in HD, but thought "why would they broadcast that documentary in SD when it's in HD?" Unbelievable!

Hi,

To provide more programming. Thus get more pledges. That's why KQED and KTEH are on both transmittors.

Before KQED / KTEH (NCPB) went to the current lineup, KQED (1HD, 2SD), KTEH (5SD) they provided about the same number of programming streams but many were un watch able. Sort of what Channel 1 is providing now, but not quite so bad.

With the current lineup NCPB provides mainly watch able pictures on all the streams (My opinion).

You want HD on KTEH's transmitter, then some of the SD channels must go. That is what it was before.

What do you think about 7.2? KGO has two 16:9 channels. Some people do not like the picture quality on 7.2.

KCSM had many stunning programs when they first went to HD. Now many of their 16:9 programs are just not quite filling my HDTV screen. BOO to them, it that the way to get 2 Million?

HDTV just takes so much of the bandwidth, repeats must be down scaled to SD.

Will NCPB's lineups stay the same, I have been thinking it may not for some time.

But it may all be moot, have you not heard of the plan to turn off all the OTA transmitters. You are not allow to comment to the FCC about this.

SHF
post #2215 of 2239
Cris & Terry, thanks for the info. I will look into this early next year.

SFischer1, sorry you are having problems. But you have to keep in mind there are many successful users of NAS drives. From what I have read they can be a pain to setup. Example, some require that you manually setup a port on your router.

I do not want to hijack this thread so I will ask any future NAS questions in an existing thread or start a new one.
post #2216 of 2239
[quote=Wendell ...

I do not want to hijack this thread so I will ask any future NAS questions in an existing thread or start a new one.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

PM me and I will send you zipped up the messages on the 8-bit forum. This > 25 year old computer has the best set of people with knowledge about NAS's I found.

Or tell me where your new thread is and I will attach the zip file for others also to read.

SHF
post #2217 of 2239
Nani, did you notice the link that Cris added to his post above in an edit? That's a darned good NAS info resource too, methinks.
post #2218 of 2239
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Nani, did you notice the link that Cris added to his post above in an edit? That's a darned good NAS info resource too, methinks.

Hi,

Thank you very much, I did miss it. Great chart!!!

Not only do I have a NAS that keeps failing, but one with very poor performance.

Maxtor Central Axis (STM310005CAA00G-RK) 12.1

Three other Segate / Maxtor units are ~ 3 times faster.

The number of entries is unexpected, it must be a very large market.

Where can we take this OT discussion?

SHF
post #2219 of 2239
Type in "NAS" to the Google AVS search box above on this page and then choose one of the first 10 hits.
post #2220 of 2239
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Originally Posted by TPeterson View Post

Type in "NAS" to the Google AVS search box above on this page and then choose one of the first 10 hits.

Hi,

NAS discussion continued here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post17676277

SHF
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