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post #9481 of 10016
You're receiving KCSO which transmits on channel 3 from the hills south of San Andreas. They have Telemundo on 33.1. You should find ME-TV on 33.2 and Country Net on 33.3, if my listing is still correct.

Larry
SF
post #9482 of 10016
In Atlanta, WPXA is carrying Telemundo on its 14-7 subchannel, so it's possible the same thing is happening in Sacramento. I've heard rumors it may be happening in Seattle too and as such I wouldn't be shocked if it happened in more places.

- Trip
post #9483 of 10016
KSPX is indeed transmitting "TLMD" but I'm having trouble getting it scanned in. Must be a PSIP issue.

My Sony will not recognize it during a channel scan but takes a long pause when it reaches RF 48. I can view it by entering 48.9 but the picture is squished and selecting a wide picture mode doesn't fix it.

My Pal DVR automatically found it but entered it as 85.1. I tried manually adding the channel but it won't recognize it as 29.7. It does display the picture properly as full screen. It has poor picture quality, many compression artifacts.

Chuck
post #9484 of 10016
33-1 and 33-2 are both Telemundo, 33-3 is ZUUS Country. ME-TV moved to KCRA 3-2 some months ago
post #9485 of 10016
I'm still getting 33-1 here, but no other 33's. This is the only sub, except 10-2, that allows aspect control on the old Zenith 911 converter.
post #9486 of 10016
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Originally Posted by deltaguy View Post

I'm still getting 33-1 here, but no other 33's. This is the only sub, except 10-2, that allows aspect control on the old Zenith 911 converter.
Something's not right if you don't get ALL sub-channels, if you get one. They'll are being transmitted on the same signal. You might want to re-scan.

Larry
SF
post #9487 of 10016
Is it possible that KSPX 29-7 is being mapped to 33-1?

- Trip
post #9488 of 10016
I wonder if that might be happening? I have two TVs on two different antennas. The VHF-UHF antenna receives 33-1, 2,and 3. 33-1 is identified as TLMD.

The UHF antenna receives only 33-1 TLMD at the same strength as KSPX. It sees nothing of the other 33s and it never received 33-1 until just recently.

When I scan KSPX it finds 6 channels but displays only 5 as ch. 29.
Ernie
post #9489 of 10016
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Is it possible that KSPX 29-7 is being mapped to 33-1?

- Trip

Possible? It's currently happening here. My chances of getting rf 3 from San Andreas are slim and none. I doubt rf 3 would work well here if it were from Walnut Grove. In the South Bay, does rf 35 identify itself as 35-1 or 7-1? The Zenith 901 doesn't need to be scanned to add new subs.
post #9490 of 10016
Bookcollector explains the unusual channel reception: "When I scan KSPX it finds 6 channels but displays only 5 as ch. 29."

Apparently KSPX is sending out 29-7 as 33-1, and that would explain why Deltaguy is only getting the one 33 sub-channel. This is a rather weird arrangement, but it's not the first time for confusing PSIP ID's. Look at the "exchange" of PSIP ID's between KUVS and KTFK.

To answer Deltaguy's question, KGO's translator on channel 35 identifies itself as channel 7... 7-1, 7-2 and 7-3. Also, the KTVU translator on channel 48 identifies itself as channel 2.

Larry
SF
post #9491 of 10016
So that I can keep my station list updated, what does KSPX have for programming on 29-5? The ION station down here hasn't added the -5 sub-channel.

Thanks.

Larry
SF
post #9492 of 10016
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Originally Posted by Larry Kenney View Post

So that I can keep my station list updated, what does KSPX have for programming on 29-5? The ION station down here hasn't added the -5 sub-channel.

Thanks.

Larry
SF

29-5 is QVC over air. KSPX could elect to add the KCSO subs if they wish obviously.
post #9493 of 10016
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Is it possible that KSPX 29-7 is being mapped to 33-1?

- Trip

You mean you think it's not really 29.7? When I enter 48.9 it comes up so it's definitely being transmitted on KSPX.

Chuck
post #9494 of 10016
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Originally Posted by deltaguy View Post

Possible? It's currently happening here. My chances of getting rf 3 from San Andreas are slim and none. I doubt rf 3 would work well here if it were from Walnut Grove. In the South Bay, does rf 35 identify itself as 35-1 or 7-1? The Zenith 901 doesn't need to be scanned to add new subs.

I was able to see KCSO in Walnut Creek on a high VHF antenna. They should have excellent coverage since they're running 5KW from an excellent location - antenna at 3111' overlooking the valley. But a real low VHF antenna will be required and then there's the noise issue.

Chuck
post #9495 of 10016
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Originally Posted by Calaveras View Post

I was able to see KCSO in Walnut Creek on a high VHF antenna. They should have excellent coverage since they're running 5KW from an excellent location - antenna at 3111' overlooking the valley. But a real low VHF antenna will be required and then there's the noise issue.

Chuck

At the transition, the 901 was connected to traditional rabbit ears and a classic bowtie. Analog KCRA was always plagued by EMI here. I never got KCSO after. Today, I'm using a Leaf with the converter. That's why I figure rf 3 is out of the question.
post #9496 of 10016
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For at least the past week, I have been seeing intermittent problem on KOVR. The video goes to horizontal/diagonal lines then goes black with no audio. About 10 seconds later it comes back on and is normal. It has happened at least 3 times that I have recorded during primetime. Once was CSI something, then just tonight it happened at the very beginning of Amazing Race.


Note: These were recorded off Comcast cable KOVR CH713 (I rarely use OTA since getting a 4 tuner Tivo Elite and dumping Dish Network). I posted the problem here because this thread gets way more exposure than the Comcast thread AND this problem ONLY happens on KOVR.
KOVR -
Exact same problem is back-
Last Sunday night's Amazing Race (not sure what time)
Last night's Criminal Minds at about 52 minute mark

It's back again 2013. Person of Interest premiere at the 52 minute mark again!

Now in Stockton on Comcast with 6 Tuner Ceton network tuner recording to HTPC.
post #9497 of 10016
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Originally Posted by hammerdwn View Post

It's back again 2013. Person of Interest premiere at the 52 minute mark again!

Now in Stockton on Comcast with 6 Tuner Ceton network tuner recording to HTPC.

I also saw it on POI and on another show.

I'm not sure Bob is reading this forum anymore.

Chuck
post #9498 of 10016
Why was the first 20 minutes of last night'sHostages on KOVR in 4x3 ??? I'm not ashamed to admit that I've made harsh comments about this station in past years because this one Sacramento station seems to have issues every new fall Tv season.... year after year after year.
post #9499 of 10016
It started part way through How I met Your Mother.

S~
post #9500 of 10016
So it was down for 2 hours during prime time. Jeeze. I don't watch live Tv anymore so a hotline for these situations is moot. It's basically a crap shoot when I go to watch my shows the next day. HD, not HD, black screen, diagonal lines, ehh who cares...

Wonder who they got - KOVR/KMAX Maintenance Engineer Job Opening
post #9501 of 10016
KOVR last night's Person of Interest 40 minute mark- Black screen, audio pop/drop, diagonal lines, then return to normal. You would think with more than ten years of operation that a station could get things working right, nah maybe not.
Edited by hammerdwn - 10/2/13 at 11:33am
post #9502 of 10016
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Originally Posted by hammerdwn View Post

Why was the first 20 minutes of last night'sHostages on KOVR in 4x3 ??? I'm not ashamed to admit that I've made harsh comments about this station in past years because this one Sacramento station seems to have issues every new fall Tv season.... year after year after year.

This must have been a Comcast issue. I finally got around to watching my OTA recording of Hostages and it is was all in HD.

Chuck
post #9503 of 10016
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

It started part way through How I met Your Mother.

S~
OTA or comcast?
post #9504 of 10016
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Originally Posted by Calaveras View Post

You mean you think it's not really 29.7? When I enter 48.9 it comes up so it's definitely being transmitted on KSPX.

Chuck

Got TSReader data on KSPX and it is definitely transmitting virtual channel 33-1 for its 48.9 Telemundo channel.

- Trip
post #9505 of 10016
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Got TSReader data on KSPX and it is definitely transmitting virtual channel 33-1 for its 48.9 Telemundo channel.

- Trip

I put on 48.9 and indeed it is repeating KCSO as that was the ID. I guess if you can't receive KCSO on RF 3 then your TV will scan in 48.9 as 33.1. That's one way for them to get back on UHF.

Chuck
post #9506 of 10016
I noticed that MTV Tr3s is gone from KMMW-LD and they're now showing Telemundo, same as KSCO and KSPX. What's really weird is that KMMW and KCSO are at the same transmitter site. What's the point of that?

KTFK now is showing the Una Mas logo on the program I saw.

If Trip is reading this, KMMD-LD has also dropped Tr3s and is showing 3ABN Latino. I read that KMMC-LD in the Bay Area is also showing 3ABN Latino now.

The Spanish stations are playing musical networks around here.

Chuck
post #9507 of 10016
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Originally Posted by Calaveras View Post

I read that KMMC-LD in the Bay Area is also showing 3ABN Latino now.

Chuck

Yes they are... started about a week ago. TR3S has disappeared.

Larry
post #9508 of 10016
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Originally Posted by Calaveras View Post

I noticed that MTV Tr3s is gone from KMMW-LD and they're now showing Telemundo, same as KSCO and KSPX. What's really weird is that KMMW and KCSO are at the same transmitter site. What's the point of that?

KTFK now is showing the Una Mas logo on the program I saw.

If Trip is reading this, KMMD-LD has also dropped Tr3s and is showing 3ABN Latino. I read that KMMC-LD in the Bay Area is also showing 3ABN Latino now.

The Spanish stations are playing musical networks around here.

Chuck

Reading and noted. Thanks to you and Larry. smile.gif

- Trip
post #9509 of 10016
Three guesses and the first ones don't count. KOVR is dead in Martinez AGAIN.
Of course I can't receive KPIX from SF either. So much for watching NCIS...
post #9510 of 10016
KOVR HD ok on comcast feed here in Stockton.
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