*OFFICIAL* Infocus Screeplay 4805 thread - Page 12  

Zipbags: Here are a couple of pics of a ceiling mount for my 4800, that attaches to my back wall (I didn't feel like puncturing my ceiling). The PJ literally sits on the ceiling. cost about $8 @ HD; including the flat white spray paint. Note:Thats the lens cap stashed on the projector.

Has there been any official mention of offset % values for the 4805? I didn't see anything on their spec sheet.

See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...35#post3820235

As far as acoustic decibels are concerned, 3db is generally considered the minimum change that most people can perceive. In other words if you had two similar machines, one at 36db, and one at 39, you'd be hard pressed to discern which was louder.

At any rate, smyth22's hush box link was pretty cool, they don't list prices but I thought this was interesting:
The hush box is your ceiling mount. They have a link to AVS on their site. Perhaps a powerbuy for us thrifty 4805ers could be set up?

i am pretty new to projectors and although i have done some(obviously not enough) research i would appreciate it if someone could answer a couple of my questions.

The 4805 will be better for playing DVDs of my HTPC because of its 16x9 resolution but how much better are we talking about? 854x480 is the #pixels given out by the 4805 correct?
I know the X1 crops the extra pixels out, but how many more pixels can the 4805 put out in 16x then the X1?
Since i can change the output and resolution using powerstrip on my HTPC it doesnt seem like i am gaining that much by going with the 4805(but that doesnt seem right otherwise there wouldnt be this much hype) if someone could clarify this for me

Is the 4805 billed as the X1's eventual replacement or is this just a better model? If i wait 6-12 months(i know the last thread degenerated because of this) will the 4805 drop to X1's price point while the X1 leaves the market?

Compared to other projectors at this price point, how does the 4805 rate? I think this is the only sub 2k XGA model out there(correct me if im wrong), but is it better in-contrast, brightness, bulb life etc? (rainbows dont both me, but for the sake of completeness color wheel speed info would be usefull)

Finally, the most obvious question i can think of-has anyone actually seen the 4805 or is this whole thread still speculation? I know the 4805 is not slated to come out for 3 weeks, but are the models people have seen 'test' models or are they actual 4805 projectors?


added note-the link provided on the first page of this thread to infocuses site is more of an advertisment then a manual. Does anyone have the specs of the 4805 on hand or a link to them?

Hawkson -

What specs are you looking for? If you look at the right side of the last page here - http://www.infocushome.com/pdf/4805/SP4805_DS.pdf you will see the typical pj specs. Is there something specific you aren't seeing?

Hawkson pretty much all of this is speculation, however I have demo'd the X2 and for the most part (minus the color wheel and processing) I expect the lumans and spl's to be quite simular.

As far as a test, or full review keep your eyes on this:

A few of us have been waiting for the offset ratio. Which is the height of the top of the screen compared to the projectors lens. This makes a big difference depending on your installation and is an important factor to consider when selecting a projector. For example:

Let's say you have a tray ceiling or a very high ceiling. A projector with an offset which displays the top of the image 2' below the projector's lens would work better as the projector wouldn't hang as far as into the room.

That same room with a projector which doesn't have an offset would require hanging the projector 2' lower into the room. Not always good for aesthetics.

A projector with a negative offset of 2' might have to hang that projector 4' into the room.

In general if you have taller than normal ceilings you would like a projector with an offset. If you have shorter ceilings or an obstruction like a beam you might prefer a negative offset as a positive offset would put the picture on the floor or start at the base of the wall.

If someone know this information on the offset please pass it on.

Thanks

Bob

I don't expect the offset to be much different from the X1/X2/4800.

For what it's worth, the 4800 offset values are here:
http://www.infocus.com/service/sp480...%20english.xls

So if I am understanding the offset info. If my ceiling is only 7ft. and it is a clean path to the wall/screen. I shouldn't have to worry about this?

Does anyone know how that projector is hanging? My guess would be upside down...

(There are no stupid questions remember)

Looks like Toshiba will be using the 4805 design for their DLP line, along with the 5700 clone...

I just want to be sure I understand what this means. So for a 84" wide screen a projected 4:3 image will BEGIN 7" and a 16:9 image will BEGIN 15.5" from the ceiling when the X1/4800 is mounted parallel with the ceiling?

The screen begins at the distance from the ceiling to the center of lens (depends on your ceiling mount) PLUS offset.

Ok, you noticed I mistakenly stated the distance was from the ceiling. So if it's from the center of the lens then we need to add maybe 6" or so more to account for a ceiling mount and depth into PJ to the center of the lens. That would give a "from ceiling" distance.

Can the image be brought closer to the ceiling by pitching the PJ slightly upward?

Yup. And with a low ceiling and short throw distance, you might simply consider decreasing the size of your screen. I'd move ;)

If that small amount of adjustment would warp the image then projecting from a coffee table must be really bad !!?!

My ceiling will be about 6'9" where the PJ will hang. My wife wants to soffet (sp?) the ceiling on the side where the screen will be up to about 7'9" because there are no low hanging pipes there. I think this is a bad idea because my screen would be even higher then.

Btw, my throw distance is looking to be in the 14-16 ft range depending on where I hang the pull down screen. Are you saying you consider that a short throw distance??

Man, I never thought getting all these details worked out would be so complicated. No wonder RPTVs are so popular :rolleyes:

Many of these issues are much harder to work out now on paper/messageboards, but once you have the pj it will be an hour or two of moving the pj around to find out what works. Offest distance, long/short throw, dBs, and all that math will give way to pj perched atop a stack of boxes, an extension cord and some av cables throwing a huge image on a bare wall.

Not to say that we shouldn't spend some time beforehand making sure that it will work..

Personally I really like my screen low, eye level. Yet another plus to staying home instead of going to the theater (unless its stadium seating), in my room (12"x15"x10") my projector hangs at about 1" from the ceiling (upside down) and works perfect. If you prefer your screen higher you may have to set some keystoning. BTW: This also works well for coffee table setup. I think IF does a nice job with their offset.

Does anyone have an idea of when we'll see actual pricing for the 4805 on the Infocus web site?!

the feedback that I got calling InFocus Home Entertainment-ScreenPlay
(Americas: 888-282-PLAY) and the InFocus Americas Sales (US Toll Free Phone: 800-660-0024) is that the 4805 wil be released this quarter towards the end of June. MSRP will be $1499.

I look forward to the day when ALL projectors will have lens shift. When an offset is fixed, I don't care what it's set at, it won't please everyone. If manufacturers want PJs to go mainstream, they need to make this happen.

Despite several emails to Infocus requesting offset info, I have received no replies. Evidently the offset data must be a closely guarded secret. Perhaps lives are at stake. Even if you use the X1/X2 as an indicator for what the 4805 offset may be, do you use the 4:3 offset of those PJs or the 16:9? You just don't know. We may all have to wait until Angilasaurus' shootout on June 5/6 to know the offset for sure.

Maximavs - if you missed it, the actual pricing has been released and it is MSRP of $1899 and MAP of $1499. The MAP is what I would imagine most dealers would list it at.

MAP?

Manufacturer's Actual Price?

I know no off site discussion regarding anything beyond MSRP and MAP, but its already for pre-order from several dealers for $1499.

I wish AVS sold the lower end stuff, becasue I would have been glad to send my money their way. Oh well, I guess when I'm ready to upgrade to the 777 I'll give them a holler. :-)

I did see the info about the MSRP and MAP on the forum here from resellers, but I was looking for Infocus to actually have the pricing info on the web site. I would feel a whole lot better about the price being what people say it is if I saw it in the web site.

Looking forward to Angilasaurus' shootout in 2 weeks!!

Help with screen with 4805.

I will be getting a 4805 in June (hopefully) and I am looking at screens to go with it. I need some advice. Has anyone heard of Carada screens.
Also should I get a 1:78 to 1 or 1:85 to 1 screen (most of my viewing will be DVD with occasional HD).
Also they offer 3 choices to material: Classic cinema white, brilliant white and high contrast grey.

Your help is appreciated.
Thanks

I'm considering playing with the whole DIY parkland plastics screen. I'll post my results in the screens section (some really good discusison in there).


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