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post #211 of 6013
I reinstalled the driver and now I can record OTA HD via firewire with no lag in sound. Wow this is so cool!!! AVSforum rocks! Thanks bdraw for starting this thread!

Jeff
post #212 of 6013
Thread Starter 
No, problem the reall thanks is to Timecop, he figured it out.

I am glad I was able to help.
post #213 of 6013
Looking for hardware solution..
I have read, read and reread the first post!
My gear is...Mitz 65511, Mitz D-VHS, and HTPC (everything is far apart)
I have a 14' 1394 cable that connect the tv and dvhs, also have 14' 1394 cable that connects the dvhs to htpc..I can't record live HDTV, however I can record to dvhs and then play that to htpc. I have search the net to find a 25'-30' 1394 cable and no luck.
Do they make a long 1394 cable? Can I use a 1394 hub to connect the three. Any help would be great... Thanks in advance.
post #214 of 6013
Its best to place a repeater in-line with cable runs of 15' or more.
I have and currently use 45'+ runs without problems
Just purchase two 15' cables and one repeater.
The repeater works like a splice to tie the two cables together
while giving the signal a boost
post #215 of 6013
Thanks I was looking for somrthing like that, but new to firewire capablities. Do you happen to have a link to a good supplier. I'll search the net in the mean time.. Thanks for your quick reply..
Fandale8
post #216 of 6013
Thanks for the info.. I had it setup and working in 5 mins on a Mot 6800. Don't know how much use it will be without a 5C enabled program with intergrated progam guide but at least I know it works. It would real sweet if it could be integrated into programs like Sage or Snapstream.
post #217 of 6013
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Thanks I was looking for somrthing like that, but new to firewire capablities. Do you happen to have a link to a good supplier. I'll search the net in the mean time.. Thanks for your quick reply..

Great selection of high quality GoldX cables, with excellent prices:

http://www.dasko.com/goldx.htm

DAGrainger
post #218 of 6013
Thanks for the link. I ordered the active extention cable..I'll post back after trying... Great Thead!!! Thanks to All
Fandale8
post #219 of 6013
Will this method work if the firmware is greater than 7.10? I heard Cox in Connecticut is 7.15.
post #220 of 6013
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I ordered the active extension cable..I'll post back after trying...

FYI... I have two 15' active extension cables, as well as a 6' 6/4 pin cable, and have not been able to make it work. I contacted GoldX and was told that it would appear that my firewire connection was not supplying enough power for the long run of wiring. I have since ordered a powered 3 port firewire hub, to provide the extra power needed for the long run (> 30'). My intention is to run 6' to the hub and then use the two 15' extensions. I'll let you know if this functions or not. Just wanted to mention this in case you have issues.

DAGrainger
post #221 of 6013
Thanks bdraw and Timecop for making the recording of HD so easy.

Does anyone use a Roku or other hardware based solution for playing back saved HD files?

I want to play back the HD an HDTV that is not connected to my computer. The Roku will play the saved files (using capDVHS) but the sound stutters horribly and the picture stutters a bit.

As for playback on the computer (using Elecard). Are there keyboard shortcuts for FF and REW? I want to keep the image full screen and FF or REW through commercials or to find a specific part of a show without having to exit full screen mode.

If Elecard won't do this, then what will. Windows Media Player plays the files fine but it won't go full screen.

So, any hardware ideas? Software?

Thanks!
post #222 of 6013
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Originally posted by dagrainger
FYI... I have two 15' active extension cables, as well as a 6' 6/4 pin cable, and have not been able to make it work. I contacted GoldX and was told that it would appear that my firewire connection was not supplying enough power for the long run of wiring. I have since ordered a powered 3 port firewire hub, to provide the extra power needed for the long run (> 30'). My intention is to run 6' to the hub and then use the two 15' extensions. I'll let you know if this functions or not. Just wanted to mention this in case you have issues.

DAGrainger

I had the exact same experience. I would also like to know how this works out for you. Right now I have the 15' cable running across the family room floor. I need to resolve soon or judging from my wife's evil look, I may be wearing a 1394 necklace.
post #223 of 6013
I, like az886502, am in Pittsburgh in the 15213 zip code.

I got the 6200 hooked up to my HTPC via 1394 and installed CapDVHS without a problem.

It records and displays data for all non-digital channels (1-99) as far as I can tell.

It records and displays NO data for ALL of my HD channels. INHD and INHD2, ESPN-HD, Showtime-HD, HBO-HD, even local networks THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE COPY PROTECTED don't work. For WTAE (ABC - 780), KDKA (CBS - 782), WQED (PBS - 790), and all the other HD channels, whether I set it to record in .ts or .mpeg, i get files that are NOT zero bytes, but actually correct-sized files, that DO NOT play back. It brings up an error dialog that says it does not have recognizeable content.

When I record from analog channels, I get perfect playback in Elecard.

Is this 5C? Is this because of Comcast, or the local broadcasters?

Isn't it illegal (read: not in compliance with FCC regulations) for them to activate 5C on their local OTA channels?

I'd like someone's opinion on this before I go ahead and start bothering the Comcast VP of Regional Affairs for Pittsburgh about this. If it IS out of compliance, I could tell him that and it might actually get results. Do I have any real options at my disposal here?


Dan
post #224 of 6013
I recently purchased a 15' Belkin 6 to 6 firewire cable. The cable box is coming at 1 PM. Is the run too long? Or is it only in excess of 15' that needs to be a concern?
post #225 of 6013
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Originally posted by Crescent
I recently purchased a 15' Belkin 6 to 6 firewire cable. The cable box is coming at 1 PM. Is the run too long? Or is it only in excess of 15' that needs to be a concern?

15' will work. I use a 6-to-4 pin...do you have a 6 pin 1394 port on your HTPC? Don't buy cables at retailers...there are so many cheaper alternatives from eTailers. GreatCables.com, TriangleCables.com etc. You can get exactly what you need and at 50% or less for quality cables. I made this mistake of going to BB or CC for my cable needs, boy...what a mistake. Although you can return them easier but you pay through the butt for that convenience.
post #226 of 6013
Dan, I doubt very much Comcast is your problem. You either have capdvhs configured wrong or your playback software isn't set up for HD. BTW, it makes no difference what file extension you enter into capdvhs, the output contents stays the same. Use .tp or .ts. The 2nd,3rd,eigth boxes should be checked in settings.

You can verify 5c=0 by tuning to the channel, power off, hit OK.
post #227 of 6013
The Cox installer showed up today with a DVR version of the Motorola HD box, the DCT6400. The firmware is 8.03. CBS and NBC are not 5C encrypted. I cannot see or record firewire output.

In device manager, I have ...Imaging Devices, Panasonic D-VHS AV/C Device (NV-DHE10)

In VLC I have Panasonic MPEG2TS Tape Subunit Device selected for "open capture". VLC shows nothing.

IN CapDVHS, I have Panasonic MPEG2TS Tape Subunit Device-(unknown video #1). I get the error message, "Error 80040217: Cannot connect samplegrabber."

Do I have a prayer? My wife would like to watch the opening day ceremonies for the Olympics tonight and I would like to get some gravy points for the theater.
post #228 of 6013
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Originally posted by Crescent
IN CapDVHS, I have Panasonic MPEG2TS Tape Subunit Device-(unknown video #1). I get the error message, "Error 80040217: Cannot connect samplegrabber."

Click on the pull down arrow to the right and you will see Panasonic MPEG2TS Tape Subunit Device-(unknown video #2). Select this one and you will be recording the TS file to your harddrive. I had better luck with playback using Sasem Onair player. Try them all to see which one does the best job.
post #229 of 6013
Thanks for the fast reply!

There is no other choice in the list.
post #230 of 6013
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Originally posted by Crescent
Thanks for the fast reply!

There is no other choice in the list.

You need to follow the instructions to the letter. It took me a bit to figure out what I was doing wrong but once I got it down, I saw 2 devices, selected the second and it recorded.
post #231 of 6013
On initial install after canceling "unknown" and "a/v panel" there was no other prompt for "Tuner A/V Device".
post #232 of 6013
Third time's a charm. The right device came up this time and I have audio and video. The problem now is that the stream keeps breaking up. I'm loosing packets. Is 2.53 P4 with 512 RAM enough?
post #233 of 6013
Yes, 2.53 p4 is enough. A 900mhz T-bird/ 256mb is enough. Playback via software is where horsepower is needed.
post #234 of 6013
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Originally posted by Crescent
Third time's a charm. The right device came up this time and I have audio and video. The problem now is that the stream keeps breaking up. I'm loosing packets. Is 2.53 P4 with 512 RAM enough?

I have the exact specs as you. Try the Sasem OnAir...It is the only one I get smooth playback on. VLC had alot of breakups.
post #235 of 6013
Thanks to all!

I'm trying to watch live HD.
post #236 of 6013
Anyone knows how to play it back through JVC 30K D-VHS deck to HDTV?

I hooked my Motorola DCT6200(firmware 7.15) to my PC through Firewire, following the instructions here I'm able to record the Olympics Opening Ceremony in HD(Thanks guys!). I used the CapDVHS program and generated a few *.mpg files(I can use Elecard or VLC to play them back).

My JVC 30K DVHS deck arrived on Friday, I connected it to DCT6200 using a Firewire cable and I'm able to get component video out by selecting the input source to I-1 (iLink 1, number 1 is DCT6200). All the analog channels(1-99, in 4:3) and HD channels(in 16:9, including HBO, Cinemax, etc) work fine, but digital non-HD channels have some problem(>100, is this normal?).

I don't have any SVHS or DVHS tapes now(they are on the way), so I'm wondering if it's possible to output the *.mpg HDTV files on my hard drive to JVC 30K's Firewire input, then I can use JVC's component output to view iit on my Panasonic PT60LC13 HDTV(it has no Firewire input).

Any suggestions? I tried CapDVHS's WrtDVHS and looks like it's not working(do I need to do some conversion to ts?). Also tried DVHSTools 2.13(followed its instruction to install driver for JVC 30K on XP Pro), unsuccessful(Is DVHSTool for backup/restore from DVHS TAPE only?).

Thanks for any help, if it's possible, it can save $$$ on DVHS tape, I can record onto my hard drive and play them thru JVC's Firewire.
post #237 of 6013
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Originally posted by hraner
Anyone knows how to play it back through JVC 30K D-VHS deck to HDTV?

I want to do the same thing and have posted this question before and never got a response. I have a 6208 7.10, 40K and PC. I get all sorts of weird problems having both the 40K and PC connected at the same time. I cant record and the JVC will switch to F-1 for some reason. I have to disconnect the JVC before I can record to PC or vice versa. It would be cool to play back through the JVC and also be able to archive to tape. I hope someone out there can help us. It seems to me alot of folks would have this setup.
post #238 of 6013
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Originally posted by tall1
Click on the pull down arrow to the right and you will see Panasonic MPEG2TS Tape Subunit Device-(unknown video #2). Select this one and you will be recording the TS file to your harddrive. I had better luck with playback using Sasem Onair player. Try them all to see which one does the best job.

THANK YOU tall1 for the reference to the Onair player! This one completely *smokes* Elecard and VLC for playing back .ts files. We're talking going from near 100% CPU consumption to around 40%. Plus picture quality is dramatically improved on the playback of the Olympic stuff I've been recording. This player has got it going on!
post #239 of 6013
MrGonk,

I share the same problems with you. But I do receive HD-Discovery at channel 789.
post #240 of 6013
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Originally posted by Nice_Guy
THANK YOU tall1 for the reference to the Onair player! This one completely *smokes* Elecard and VLC for playing back .ts files. We're talking going from near 100% CPU consumption to around 40%. Plus picture quality is dramatically improved on the playback of the Olympic stuff I've been recording. This player has got it going on!

Well alot of folks deserve the credit beyond my meager contributions. I wouldn't be able to come close to enjoying my HD experience without the collaboration of the fine folks on AVS. Crescent inspired me to help him because he wanted to prove the value of HD to his wife. I have tremendous empathy for guys in this situation. Glad I could help a little bit.
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