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post #2371 of 5938
Yes, its a known bug in the panasonic AVC drivers. It's a bug in the KS/Directshow portion of the driver, and since there is no source code, it can't be fixed.

Workaround 1: don't use nero vision
Workaround 2: tell nerovision to not enumerate this particular capture device (if possible)

Preferred workaround: #1
post #2372 of 5938
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Originally Posted by timecop View Post

Yes, its a known bug in the panasonic AVC drivers. It's a bug in the KS/Directshow portion of the driver, and since there is no source code, it can't be fixed.

Workaround 1: don't use nero vision
Workaround 2: tell nerovision to not enumerate this particular capture device (if possible)

Preferred workaround: #1

Thanks,
Any idea how to use Workaround 1 as I would really like to use Vision?
post #2373 of 5938
Ok after reading this guide I'm still not getting my stb box to work on my winxp system. I have installed the firestb.msi drivers and even the new ones i have received from the author of the drivers Timm Moore, before i installed my drivers i hooked up the box and xp see the 6416 motorola box but then i read i needed to install the drivers first so i did then hooked up the box the unknown comes up i cancel that then the av/c panel comes up tried to install that ... it failed... then the av/c device fails also.. tried skipping the first 2 and do the install the device still fails... i have Verizon Fios and the Motorola 6416 HD/DVR box... any clue whats going on or what I'm doing wrong. capdvs.exe doesn't see any capture devices... i even have a ATI all in wonder 8500 card... any help would be great... Thanks in advance

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Windows XP SP2
AMD Duron 1800+
640MB DDR RAM
post #2374 of 5938
Well I just tried this newer method (new to me) and it works quite well. Thumbs up! Now my Tuner AVC Device is listed as a Moto DCT 6412 instead of the universal "Panasonic..." One note, playback in VLC didn't work for me right away, so I installed drivers for both "Tuner AVC Device" as well as "Tuner AVC Panel" and it everything worked fine then. All drivers were installed automatically without problems (there is a reboot in there, and a few XP alerts as far as WHQL goes). Recording with CapDVHS is a breeze and it lists the device as "Motorola AVC Tuner Device."

This is truly a great thread! Thanks!
post #2375 of 5938
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Originally Posted by Frost02 View Post

Ok after reading this guide I'm still not getting my stb box to work on my winxp system. I have installed the firestb.msi drivers and even the new ones i have received from the author of the drivers Timm Moore, before i installed my drivers i hooked up the box and xp see the 6416 motorola box but then i read i needed to install the drivers first so i did then hooked up the box the unknown comes up i cancel that then the av/c panel comes up tried to install that ... it failed... then the av/c device fails also.. tried skipping the first 2 and do the install the device still fails... i have Verizon Fios and the Motorola 6416 HD/DVR box... any clue whats going on or what I'm doing wrong. capdvs.exe doesn't see any capture devices... i even have a ATI all in wonder 8500 card... any help would be great... Thanks in advance

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Windows XP SP2
AMD Duron 1800+
640MB DDR RAM


What is listed in your device manager under "imaging devices?" There should be two devices listed, try right clicking on each one and "update driver." After clicking no to seach online for drivers, let the driver install automatically for each device. Hope that helps.

Also, when I first plugged the firewire in, I only cancelled the first "found new hardware."
post #2376 of 5938
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Originally Posted by DrCrawn View Post

What is listed in your device manager under "imaging devices?" There should be two devices listed, try right clicking on each one and "update driver." After clicking no to seach online for drivers, let the driver install automatically for each device. Hope that helps.

Also, when I first plugged the firewire in, I only cancelled the first "found new hardware."

I shows as Av/C Device under the imaging devices the av/c panel is under unkown devices along with unknown device all have the yellow ! i tried to install drivers i get the error can't not install hardware because the wizard can not find the necessary software. what's going on? drivers are installed is there a problem with the new 6416 boxes?
post #2377 of 5938
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Originally Posted by Frost02 View Post

I shows as Av/C Device under the imaging devices the av/c panel is under unkown devices along with unknown device all have the yellow ! i tried to install drivers i get the error can't not install hardware because the wizard can not find the necessary software. what's going on? drivers are installed is there a problem with the new 6416 boxes?

I seem to recall others having problems with the 6416...does anyone out there have it working on this box?
post #2378 of 5938
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Originally Posted by slim79 View Post

I seem to recall others having problems with the 6416...does anyone out there have it working on this box?

I can caputure fine with the 6416, same as the 6412 I used to have. After a capture, the FW/RW buttons may not work. A reboot on the Motorola box fixes that. I had that problem since the 12.27 firmware upgrade in Jan 06, and on both the 6412, and the 6416, so it's not specific to the 6416.

Chris
post #2379 of 5938
when i plug my 3250HD into my TV via Firewire, guide and info are not supported, along with all the HD channels

however i know the firewire on the TV supports HD, because it works great with my brothers mac plugged into it

i was guessing the 3250hd did not have 1080i output through firewire, i guess i was wrong?

Ill try this out though
post #2380 of 5938
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Originally Posted by teague View Post

I can caputure fine with the 6416, same as the 6412 I used to have. After a capture, the FW/RW buttons may not work. A reboot on the Motorola box fixes that. I had that problem since the 12.27 firmware upgrade in Jan 06, and on both the 6412, and the 6416, so it's not specific to the 6416.

Chris

thx

I can't seem to get it to work with a moxi motorola bmc9012f but my 6200 works.
I think it is something digeo has done to protect the content.
post #2381 of 5938
ok if im understanding this correctly, i can not transfer my videos off my motorola dct6214's hard drive? i can only watch live tv with the firewire?
post #2382 of 5938
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Originally Posted by mikej3131 View Post

ok if im understanding this correctly, i can not transfer my videos off my motorola dct6214's hard drive? i can only watch live tv with the firewire?

You can capture the video (either live or a recording being played back) in real-time by recording the digital stream over firewire. You cannot access the DCT6412's storage system as though it was an external hard drive hooked up to your PC.
post #2383 of 5938
Hello
Sorry for the long post. I searched this thread but haven't been able to find any solutions to my problem and I am getting furious. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I have been recording from my Motorola 6412 for about a month now, problem-free.

Just recently, I have lost the ability to view and record from my cable box, and I don't know why. This change did not coincide with any other computer issues.

When I open CapDVHS, everything is as normal except that when I press record, no file information comes up in the boxes. I know it is recording something, because the timer moves and it creates a file of normal size (~1.5 GB for a half hour show), but none of my programs will open it (VLC, Womble)

Similarly, when I open VLC to view live cable, I select the source as normal, but nothing comes up. The play button switches to a pause, but I get no audio/video.

After the problems started, I went to my dad's house (same Motorola 6412). When I plugged into his box, I was prompted to install the drivers again, same as it did the very first time I installed them. I went through the process and successfully viewed and recorded as normal. When I went home and tried it on my box, it worked, but only temporarily and I eventually lost the functionality again.

The computer recognizes the cable box when I plug it in and the device manager still shows the drivers under imaging devices when I have the box plugged into the computer. When I plug the cable box into the computer while the cable box is off, the cable box will power up, so I assume the cable box recognizes the output connection.

Also, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers, and both capdvhs and vclan, but nothing has worked. I even downgraded to service pack 1, just to try something. Nothing has worked

Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
post #2384 of 5938
You got 5C'd it sounds like...

5C is a flag that can be set on content that will not allow recording of the material if the recording box does not respond that it is acknowledging the 5C flag.
post #2385 of 5938
when I go to the diagnostic screen, 5C shows a 0
Even if it was 5C'd, couldn't I still watch, just not record?

UPdate: Turns out they turned on 5C and de-activated all of my firewire ports. Thanks comcast.
post #2386 of 5938
well then maybe it's not 5C....5C does prevent you from watching (watching/recording are virtually the same to the pc)

you could try taking the box into one of the cable co's offices and tell them it's acting weird and ask them to swap it for you...dont' try that over the phone because they'll send a guy out, he'll just test your picture and they'll probably charge you for a service call. But you should be able to walk in with it and swap the box pretty easy if they have any on hand.
post #2387 of 5938
thanks for the replies

I'll try swapping out the box.

If they did actually flag me, and its all over, at least I got about 25 "free" hours of simpsons and aqua teen on dvd now.
post #2388 of 5938
Hi:
If anyone can help I would really appreciate it. I spent all night trying to hook up my ieee included laptop to my comcast dual tuner dvr with firewire output. I followed the instructions, but when the panel and tuner software was installed it failed. I uninstalled and reinstalled several times. My DVR is Motorola's latest dual tuner hd DVR. The latest has hdmi out to connect to my flat panel's hdmi in. The firmware on my stb is in the 12's, 12.22 I believe. Am I just ahead of the software (drivers) so that my stb is too new for that listed in this post?
New to trying to capture digital to pc. They make it sound easy, just connect the firewire, run the movie maker and go. Unfortunately, that does not seem to be the case in using an stb to pc connection.
Video capture device not found in xp movie maker or the software listed here, downloaded and run.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
Bob (Novice at this)

PS: What does MCE stand for?
post #2389 of 5938
thanks op. i followed your instructions slowly last night and it worked the first time around. captured from my 6412. i really wanted to grab this seasons sopranos in HD. thanks again
post #2390 of 5938
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Originally Posted by BobV View Post

PS: What does MCE stand for?

It's a Windows operating system with emphasis on entertainment.

MCE= Media Center Edition
post #2391 of 5938
Thank you (duh to me)
post #2392 of 5938
I tried to update my previous post regarding the success I had with Kevin Moye's instructions. (found here!)

Thank you Kevin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So far all works like a charm. Next step setting up for recording.
post #2393 of 5938
Need a bit of help from the experts. I have succesfully captured video from my Motorola 6412 using CapDVHS. After capture, I play the .ts file in media player classic. All is fine. Both video and audio are perfect. I then open DGIndex, set audio and video PID's. When I play the file in DGIndex, I do not have any sound. DGIndex information box shows nothing in the audio format box and time stamp doesn't move when playing. Next step using HDTV to MPEG2 converter, I believe I'm doing all the steps right. I convert the .ts file to .mpg and then play the .mpg file in a number of media players and still no sound. Am I doing something wrong when setting the audio and video PID's? My PID's are usually 0x900 for video and 0x901 for audio. Thanks!
post #2394 of 5938
Upgrade to latest dgindex and use detect PIDs by PAT/PMT option.
Also there will never be sound in dgindex. If you tell it to, it will demux audio to a separate ac3/mpg file.
post #2395 of 5938
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Originally Posted by timecop View Post

Upgrade to latest dgindex and use detect PIDs by PAT/PMT option.
Also there will never be sound in dgindex. If you tell it to, it will demux audio to a separate ac3/mpg file.

Thanks timecop!. Works perfectly!
post #2396 of 5938
One more thing. I usually use Vegas 6 to edit video. So far it's always been .avi files from my camcorder. When I dropped in the .mpg file, no sound just video. Any experience with this? I just want to edit out commercials. Thanks!
post #2397 of 5938
Ok, I just had DGIndex output a separate wave file. Dropped both the wave and mpg in vegas and edited both to remove commercials. Tried to edit using hdtv to mpeg2 earlier and I can''t get the cuts precise enough. Anyway. Additional editing thoughts appreciated.
post #2398 of 5938
Sorry if this was discussed before and I missed it, but I didn't find it with a search.

I've noticed a problem with hi-def captures (SD is ok) where the time seems to get out of sync after about 5 minutes. So when I try to play back a ts stream, I can't pause or fast forward at any point after the sync is lost when I play it using Elecard's media player or WMP (VideoLan works a little better).

Any recommendations?
post #2399 of 5938
If price is not an issue, Womble MPEG Video Wizard is a great tool which can cut TS directly, as well as demux into video/audio streams, if needed. I'm not aware of any free alternative to this program, because (unlike free/opensource software) it actually works very good. (http://www.womble.com/)
post #2400 of 5938
Excellent! I'm working in mpeg video wizard right now. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a ton!!
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