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post #3091 of 5938
Ok - New Problem - 6412 ver3 moto, latest firmware, on rcn, using the new echo (I think that's what it's called) software. So - firewire downloading works just fine, but after I set it up the ffd and rwd no longer work - they just hold for 3 seconds, then jump forward 3 then hold for 3, jump for 3, (in ffd). I've seen a few folks complain about the rwd and ffd not working before, but none directly connected with the firewire setup. I have tried disconnecting the fw cable, turning the box off and on after the cable is removed, etc, nothing is working. Any thoughts?
post #3092 of 5938
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Originally Posted by Tsantsa View Post

Ok, I started reading this thread but I am stuck. I have XPsp2 so I cant just install the MCE firewire stuff. I have to enter this somewhere "MSIEXEC /i firestb.msi IDENT=0" but i don't know where to put this code so that I can install the drivers only.
I have a dct3412 and I can get it to talk to my comp but I can't get the drivers...

There's a TON of posts in this thread so I don't have time to read ALL of them...can someone tell me how to get these drivers installed?

Open a command prompt in the directory you downloaded firestb.msi and type that command.
post #3093 of 5938
I just exchanged my old comcast motorola 6412 for a new one due to my PVR recordings being jittery. I have had the new 6412 hooked up and running for 5 hours and on channels like ESPN, TNT, and Cinemax HD 5C implementation is set to NO, and Copy Control shows Copy Free. However, these channels still will not record via capdvhs. Has anyone else had this happen? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
post #3094 of 5938
Any updates on the 8300HD? Anyone successful with that?
post #3095 of 5938
Just an update for Motorola DCT6412 users that want to pull programs from their DVR. Here are the steps I took and the programs I used:

Downloaded the XP drivers from:
http://www.accidentsworld.com/tgb/firestb.zip

Downloaded Capvhs from:
http://www.yamabe.org/soft/CapDVHS0306e.zip

Pulled the video (had to watch it at 1:1) and it came across as a .ts file (transport stream) which I burned to a watchable dvd with Nero Vision 4.

Use the guide at the begining of this post to get the drivers uploaded and what not. If anyone has found a better way of doing this please post it.

Thanks to those that have helped develop this process. I am looking for a way to transfer the files to my laptop as they are being recorded to the DVR.
post #3096 of 5938
Has anyone gotten this to work with the SA 4200HD? I'm on Brooklyn Cablevision and my 4200HD's firewire ports are active as I can record fine to DVHS. I have WinXP Pro SP2 with all the updates. I cannot get the PC to recognize this STB no matter what I do. I have tried different firewire cards, reinstalled the firestb drivers, and everything short of reinstalling Windows to no avail. I just cannot get the Add New Hardware wizard to come up. I did get it to come up the very first time I plugged in the box, but it only came up once with the unknown device. I cancelled that as per the instructions and waited for the Tuner AV/C Device or Tuner AV/C Panel to come up but they never did. I also cannot get it to recognize my Samsung T-165 when I plug it in. Could there be something missing with my Windows installation? I'm really out of ideas here. Help!
post #3097 of 5938
I have a Mitsu 65731 tv that has 2 1394 ports in the back and under the record button you can see channels that you want to record but the TV does not have anything to record onto. I do not want to give any more money to the cable company for a DVR box. How can i use my PC as the DVR through the 1394 port. I do not want to have to buy a cable card for my pc. I just want to use the hard drives in my PC to record onto.


The pc spec's are

AMD X2 3800+
1g DDR redline ram
2- 250g WD 3g's SATA drives
one IDE 250g
2- GF 6600GT in SLi
and fiber out for sound.
post #3098 of 5938
Quote:
Originally Posted by JrCRXHF View Post

I have a Mitsu 65731 tv that has 2 1394 ports in the back and under the record button you can see channels that you want to record but the TV does not have anything to record onto. I do not want to give any more money to the cable company for a DVR box. How can i use my PC as the DVR through the 1394 port. I do not want to have to buy a cable card for my pc. I just want to use the hard drives in my PC to record onto.


The pc spec's are

AMD X2 3800+
1g DDR redline ram
2- 250g WD 3g's SATA drives
one IDE 250g
2- GF 6600GT in SLi
and fiber out for sound.

Have you tried the Vividlogic firebus driver?
You should have received a small flyer on it with your TV.
I'm trying it with a WD57831 and am having some luck with OTA, but cable is giving me a problem (cablecard/no STB).
Their support states they are working on a new release due out in a month.
post #3099 of 5938
ok i am going to give this a try tonight

i will see how it work i have just regual windows XP pro

and then beta Vista with MC
post #3100 of 5938
I have downloaded the drivers (Cap and Firestb) i am using a Moto 6412. It is recording my files but when i play them they are black but there is data in the file. I recorded a show for 5 minutes and the file was 800mb but did not show anything when i played it. All i want to do is record the shows off of my dvr

Thanks

I am sure this problem is already posted but with 3000 posts i could not find anything
post #3101 of 5938
800 megs ...they streams do take up a lot of space. I am guessing you don't have the software to play the .ts file it comes off the dvr as.
post #3102 of 5938
Swilhelm, you are probably getting foiled by the CCI=0x02 flag.

You can check it in the diagnostics menu. You can quickly find which channels have 0x02 set by streaming with VLC (videolan) and scan through the channels you watch using the STB remote.
post #3103 of 5938
Have anyone had a little luck recently in New York with CAPDVHS running Windows XP Pro SP2 and a 8300HD DVR on Passport 2.5.066?

I have had success recording about 10 to 30 seconds worth of 1080i that were recorded on the 8300HD DVR. I cannot get any HD stuff LIVE but can get a few seconds off the stored 1080i off the hard drive in the 8300HD DVR. It matters not whether the 1080i stuff is in the 8300HD internal hard drive or the external hard drive I have attached.

After the few seconds of perfect non distorted 1080i recording, CAPDVHS simply crashes and I get a Windows crash report with little information which helps in the debugging.

Anyone with better luck with this setup or with another setup here in New York city and the 8300HD DVR?

With the Star Wars 1080i movies MARATHON coming up November 11 on Cinamax-HD, it would be great to have it recorded for viewing later. Sure, we can recorded it into the DVR but if the DVR fails, the recording is gone forever.

Since the 6 Star Wars films are not going to be available in HD-DVD or Blu-Ray DVD yet, this broadcast event is the only way for SW fans to have these 6 films on HD.....

Anyone?
post #3104 of 5938
How do I get the 8300hd to even install on my PC? I trued using the same drivers that worked on my Motorola box, but AVC tuner comes up and installs, then AVC panel comes up but no matter where I point XP it says it cannot find drivers or intall it.
post #3105 of 5938
Don't forget what you are trying to achieve: make your PC appear to be a DVHS tape deck.

Not a tuner or a panel. The driver you need is in meitape.inf for the Moto and I assume it is similar for SA boxes.
post #3106 of 5938
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Chiu View Post

Have anyone had a little luck recently in New York with CAPDVHS running Windows XP Pro SP2 and a 8300HD DVR on Passport 2.5.066?

I have had success recording about 10 to 30 seconds worth of 1080i that were recorded on the 8300HD DVR. I cannot get any HD stuff LIVE but can get a few seconds off the stored 1080i off the hard drive in the 8300HD DVR. It matters not whether the 1080i stuff is in the 8300HD internal hard drive or the external hard drive I have attached.

After the few seconds of perfect non distorted 1080i recording, CAPDVHS simply crashes and I get a Windows crash report with little information which helps in the debugging.

Anyone with better luck with this setup or with another setup here in New York city and the 8300HD DVR?

With the Star Wars 1080i movies MARATHON coming up November 11 on Cinamax-HD, it would be great to have it recorded for viewing later. Sure, we can recorded it into the DVR but if the DVR fails, the recording is gone forever.

Since the 6 Star Wars films are not going to be available in HD-DVD or Blu-Ray DVD yet, this broadcast event is the only way for SW fans to have these 6 films on HD.....

Anyone?

Could you give a step by step of how you were even able to get 10-30secs? I followed the directions to a t and capdvhs just crahes.
post #3107 of 5938
Thanks for this FANTASTIC guide. Using the method listed I was able to capture video using CapDVHS. For an hour long show, I end up with an almost 3gb uncompressed MPG file. I have tried many software options to try to convert this to a smaller format such as divx or xvid. So far, almost every program cannot detect the type of video file (even though it plays great as-is in windows media player, sound and video). When I open it with Dr. Divx it looks like it may be working and converts it into a 384mb .divx file (thats more like the size I want) but it has no sound in the final video.

Which programs or encoders would I need to convert this to a smaller file so that I may save some space on my video files?

Thanks!
post #3108 of 5938
An hour at 3GB seems to be SD (Standard definition TV). Did you try to use CAPDVHS for HD 1080i or 720p material as well?

The full version of NERO 7 can resize TS files into MP4 or others at a fraction of the size.

Paul


Quote:
Originally Posted by utaeladil View Post

Thanks for this FANTASTIC guide. Using the method listed I was able to capture video using CapDVHS. For an hour long show, I end up with an almost 3gb uncompressed MPG file. I have tried many software options to try to convert this to a smaller format such as divx or xvid. So far, almost every program cannot detect the type of video file (even though it plays great as-is in windows media player, sound and video). When I open it with Dr. Divx it looks like it may be working and converts it into a 384mb .divx file (thats more like the size I want) but it has no sound in the final video.

Which programs or encoders would I need to convert this to a smaller file so that I may save some space on my video files?

Thanks!
post #3109 of 5938
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Chiu View Post

Have anyone had a little luck recently in New York with CAPDVHS running Windows XP Pro SP2 and a 8300HD DVR on Passport 2.5.066?

I have had success recording about 10 to 30 seconds worth of 1080i that were recorded on the 8300HD DVR. I cannot get any HD stuff LIVE but can get a few seconds off the stored 1080i off the hard drive in the 8300HD DVR. It matters not whether the 1080i stuff is in the 8300HD internal hard drive or the external hard drive I have attached.

After the few seconds of perfect non distorted 1080i recording, CAPDVHS simply crashes and I get a Windows crash report with little information which helps in the debugging.

Anyone with better luck with this setup or with another setup here in New York city and the 8300HD DVR?

With the Star Wars 1080i movies MARATHON coming up November 11 on Cinamax-HD, it would be great to have it recorded for viewing later. Sure, we can recorded it into the DVR but if the DVR fails, the recording is gone forever.

Since the 6 Star Wars films are not going to be available in HD-DVD or Blu-Ray DVD yet, this broadcast event is the only way for SW fans to have these 6 films on HD.....

Anyone?

It would be great to record the entirety of Star Wars in HD and pull it off the hard disk for archiving, but how will you go about bypassing the copy protection on CINEMAX? I'm not asking to know because it's not possible if the flags are set to Copy Once. The only channels I can get to a PC are OTA.
post #3110 of 5938
I have Nero 7 so I will try to see if I can figure it out with that. The file I have was my first attempt, and although it is named .mpg I wonder if its a .ts file instead... but as far as the options, I followed the directions on the guide located at (well I can't post a URL till I have made 5 posts but the compact version of the guild) so my options were set how they recommended. The options I used (directly from the guide) were:

2. Run CapDVHS.exe and make sure the Motorola device is selected in the capture device list. Make sure you have the following settings:
Convert 188 bytes
Check PTS
Delete to SyncByte
Use .ts for all file extensions.

(except I must have tossed a .mpg extension on it instead of a .ts). But my final file is playable by windows media player (sound and all). I will go try Nero now to see if it can do the conversion. I hadn't even thought to try that because I was not thinking of burning the videos yet so Nero had slipped my mind.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Chiu View Post

An hour at 3GB seems to be SD (Standard definition TV). Did you try to use CAPDVHS for HD 1080i or 720p material as well?

The full version of NERO 7 can resize TS files into MP4 or others at a fraction of the size.

Paul
post #3111 of 5938
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Chiu View Post

With the Star Wars 1080i movies MARATHON coming up November 11 on Cinamax-HD, it would be great to have it recorded for viewing later. Sure, we can recorded it into the DVR but if the DVR fails, the recording is gone forever.

Since the 6 Star Wars films are not going to be available in HD-DVD or Blu-Ray DVD yet, this broadcast event is the only way for SW fans to have these 6 films on HD.....

Anyone?

Other than a temporary copy on an HD-DVR, the ONLY way to archive encrypted cable channels
is to use an HD-STB with a Firewire interface (e.g SA3250HD with WORKING IEEE-1394 port)
feeding a D-VHS Recorder:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ist&sku=348125
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=dvhs+recorder
You can also check eBay for used D-VHS Recorders...

I'm ready to record all six, with a new box of Fuji S-VHS tapes already pre-punched
(turning them into D-VHS tapes).....
post #3112 of 5938
With the full version of Nero, which portion of the application would I be looking for to try to get it to convert the mpg to an avi of some sort?

Thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Chiu View Post

An hour at 3GB seems to be SD (Standard definition TV). Did you try to use CAPDVHS for HD 1080i or 720p material as well?

The full version of NERO 7 can resize TS files into MP4 or others at a fraction of the size.

Paul
post #3113 of 5938
Hollands,

Your cable provider over in California may still allow for 1394 recordings on a D-Theatre DVHS recorder, but over here in NYC, that's not the case anymore.

We can no longer use any D-VHS recorders from all 3 makers to record off the 3250HD or 8300HD boxes. This was over some 10-11 months ago. The last successful D-VHS tape I made with the 3250HD box here in New York was HBO's Rome the mini series...

What we are trying to find is another version of CAPDVHS or VLC that records off 1394 through a stored 8300HD DVR, which some users from other cable providers have experienced success.

Best,
Paul



Quote:
Originally Posted by holl_ands View Post

Other than a temporary copy on an HD-DVR, the ONLY way to archive encrypted cable channels
is to use an HD-STB with a Firewire interface (e.g SA3250HD with WORKING IEEE-1394 port)
feeding a D-VHS Recorder:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ist&sku=348125
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=dvhs+recorder
You can also check eBay for used D-VHS Recorders...

I'm ready to record all six, with a new box of Fuji S-VHS tapes already pre-punched
(turning them into D-VHS tapes).....
post #3114 of 5938
does anyone have a mirror for Sasem OnAir Editor? i couldn't click the link it would just time out...
post #3115 of 5938
Try using Nero Recode
Also try renaming the TS (transport) file to MPG is needed.

Paul




Quote:
Originally Posted by utaeladil View Post

With the full version of Nero, which portion of the application would I be looking for to try to get it to convert the mpg to an avi of some sort?

Thanks!
post #3116 of 5938
I've followed the directions in installing this software, but unfortunately, it doesn't seem to want to work on my system. Here is my setup:

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 SP2 with update rollup 2
ATI All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro
Samsung SIR-T165 STB
Microsoft Media Center remote and IR blaster

According to the information in this thread my setup should work. I'm feeding the Samsung T165 analog signal in through the S-Video input on the ATI card, and I have Media Center set up to control the Samsung T165 via the IR blaster. All this is working fine. I also have the STB software installed and the Samsung STB connected via Firewire to the PC. The software installs fine, and I get one Windows prompt to install a "Tuner AV/C Device" after installing the software (no prompt to install an unknown device or a "Tuner AV/C Panel"). I of course have the option to record via Firewire checked in the tray control program. I do not have it set to move or delete Media Center recordings.

However, when I make a recording in Media Center the tray program does not also grab the Firewire feed. I have not been able to figure out the problem. The tray program does detect when Media Center is tuned to a channel, and also when it is recording. This information is all shown in the tray program. Yet it does not grab the Firewire feed.

I have noticed that the tray program Tuner 1 drop down list does not contain an entry for any tuner, only “N/A.” However, I have successfully captured the Samsung SIR-T165 transport stream with CapDVHS, so it seems that the tray program should be able to do the same.

I really need to get the tray program working with Media Center, as I need a drop-dead simple way to record the digital stream from the Samsung tuner for my family.

If anyone has any suggestions, especially if you have gotten this software working with a Samsung T165 and Media Center, I would really, really appreciate your help.
post #3117 of 5938
Well upon further inspection, it seems that windows media player does not play audio after all. If i open the file in VLC video player it works...so I am thinking that my windows system must not have the correct audio codec for this type of file.

When using CapDVHS.exe to capture the video, what codec should I have installed to be able to play the audio from any application?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Chiu View Post

Try using Nero Recode
Also try renaming the TS (transport) file to MPG is needed.

Paul
post #3118 of 5938
You're giving too much credit to CapDVHS. It simply copies the ts files from the STB to your PC.

TS files are a container with mpeg-2 files inside.
post #3119 of 5938
If the file I have is a proper .TS file (which can play audio in one or two video players) but just can't play audio in native windows media player, and since my conversion utils to shrink this .ts file all only see the video and report no audio, wouldn't that indicate that I need some kind of updated codec for mpeg2 to work properly in all apps? And if so, where is a link I can download such a codec from and try it out?

Thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by grittree View Post

You're giving too much credit to CapDVHS. It simply copies the ts files from the STB to your PC.

TS files are a container with mpeg-2 files inside.
post #3120 of 5938
Quote:
Originally Posted by utaeladil View Post

If the file I have is a proper .TS file (which can play audio in one or two video players) but just can't play audio in native windows media player, and since my conversion utils to shrink this .ts file all only see the video and report no audio, wouldn't that indicate that I need some kind of updated codec for mpeg2 to work properly in all apps? And if so, where is a link I can download such a codec from and try it out?

This almost sounds like your system lacks a Dolby Digital decoder, which is quite odd considering you have Nero 7 installed on your system. The Nero suite installs MPEG-2 and Dolby Digital decoders which are available to other Windows programs such as Windows Media Player.

Try opening the .TS file with Nero Showtime. Does it play fine? At the very least you can check what format the audio track is in. Right click in the Nero Showtime video window and choose Options > Show additional info on OSD. When the video plays in Showtime it will now display the format of the video and audio tracks, along with the bitrate.

Assuming it is a problem with a missing Dolby Digital decoder, the reason VLC media player can play the .TS file without problems is because it includes open source decoders for DVD playback. However, these decoders are only accessible to VLC media player.
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