How to record via IEEE 1394 (Firewire) to Windows XP - Page 143

If the content is actually flagged as CCI 0x02, then you will not be able to transfer the record the program to your computer.

If the Motorola sets 0x02 on its own when it sees the RC flag of 0x01, then you will be able to transfer the program to your computer.

I no longer have my Motorola box so that is not something that I can check. Perhaps someone else could verify that. Does the Motorola box report CCI 0x02 on CCI 0x00 content when the RC flag is used?

I can tell you that my FOX has the RC flag, and FOX recordings on my Motorola DVR were flagged as CCI 0x01, making them ineligible for transfer using IEEE1394. However, I had no problems downloading those high-def shows with the TiVo. The TiVo ignores the RC flag and reports those shows as CCI 0x00.

Most of the PVR software (MCE, SageTV, etc.) have either native or third party support for Firewire recording...

Ok. Thanks for the info. I don't really know how to tell if its the moto box setting the CCI 0x02 on its own or not. I guess its worth a try.
If nothing else I would rather pay a montly fee to tivo instead of comcast for a better dvr. I already have 3 sd tivos but wasnt willing to pay out 600-800 dollars on a s3. Now that the tivohd is out guess its time to make the switch.

hello everyone, Out all of my troubles to try to get my 6412 motorola dct to work on my 64 bit vista has come to a halt..... In my travels into USA last week i had some time to look around in Best Buy and circuit city and I found whats called a slingo.
Slingo is a device that can use a dvr system from prerecorded programs and delivered useing eithernet to your pc or internet far away check it out its about 150- 200 us bucks yes it works with vista 32 and 64 and xp later guys

Hey everybody,

This summer I traded in my Moto DVR with Com**** for the DCH3200. Prior to the trade, i was able to record with firewirestb. After the initial trade, there was no driver support, however, thanks to this thread, I was able to update and have it recognized in Vista Ultimate Device Manager.

I am able to record and watch the recording on my PC using CapDVHS.

PROBLEM: There are no tuners listed in MyTray.

Has anyone had this problem and if so, how I might fix it? Thanks!

What did you do to get the drivers to install in Vista? Is this x64 or x86.. does this trick work on either version?

No real trick involved that I'm aware of. It is Vista Ultimate x86 version. I did have to browse to the driver folder for it to install the DCH3200 driver.

I suppose a solution to my problem would be use CapDVHS and then add those folders to my WMC watched folders. I'll have to try it out.

Are these drivers somewhere in this thread i'm assuming?

yesh, ultimate x86 is 32-bit OS and you can install xp drivers onto it. so it's virtually identical process.

x64-bit is the version that doesn't budge on anything less than 64-bit only drivers.

Post #4236 (page 142 on my PC) has the drivers as posted by ExDeus.

Ok, using the method in the OP, Im having some issues getting my SA3250 to show up in Windows. I actually got this to work somewhat a couple of weeks ago (I could capture once, but then I would get errors on the second try), but I needed to do a reformat and install, so Im having to do it all over again. I installed the drivers, but even still, Windows doesnt recognize that anything is connected. Ive cut it on, cut if off...tried different firewire ports on both the STB and my PC...still nothing. Any solutions?

The FOX HD signal is encrypted over Firewire because it includes the Broadcast Flag, which the STB uses to trigger the 5C DTCP encryption over Firewire.

The HDHR and other QAM/ATSC tuners ignore the Broadcast Flag, so they can capture OTA broadcasts and HD cablecasts with the Broadcast Flag.

What drivers did you install? Are your Firewire ports working since reinstalling (have you installed drivers for them)? You should have at least one IEEE 1394 Bus host controller listed in Device Mgr. You should also have a 1394 Net Adapter listed under Network Adapters.

When you plug in the Firewire connection, you don't get an AV/C Tuner? Have you tried a different Firewire cable?

I've got a DCT3416 and I'm using Vista 64. I tried installing "stb_firewire_drivers_2007-10-25" but no luck. I got as far as step 10 but Vista could not find drivers. The security warning never popped up "warning cannot verify the publisher of this driver software" Vista never gave me the option to install anyway. HELP!

Hi guys. I have a very noobie question so bare with me.

I will be getting Dish Network soon. I have a pretty powerful notebook running XP and I am wondering if I can hook it up to my notebook via a TV-tuner card, and bypass the DVR/PVR box altogether? With the right software and a TV card, can my laptop function the same way as a DVR box? Please let me know

I have worked with people trying to get the drivers to install in Vista x64, but it hasn't worked. I don't have a solution. Even using the F8 menu option during boot to allow unsigned drivers, the 32-bit driver couldn't be forced to install. AFAIK, there is no 64-bit driver around.

The TV tuner cards in the U.S. are for NTSC (analog broadcast or cable), ATSC (digital broadcast), or QAM (digital cable). You won't be able to bypass your satellite box, as you need it to tune the channels. You can connect the s-video and audio ports to a capture card, and use an IR blaster that changes the channel on your satellite box to record a program, but you can't really replace the DVR functions of a satellite box because you can't do the tuning with a tuner card. At least, not in any way we can discuss here. (And I don't have any expertise, so that's not a solicitation to ask.)

By using S-Video / Audio connections and an IR blaster in conjunction with a video capture card and appropriate DVR software (such as BeyondTV or SageTV), you definitely can replace the DVR functions of a satellite box. But HD programming from the satellite is another matter - there's no practical way to accomplish this, at least not in ways that can be discussed here (I too don't have expertise in this area, especially for Dish).

I resolved my previously problem by apparently rebooting the STB...no idea why that worked, but it did. I manage to install the drivers, but I now get the message "Windows cannot start this hardware device because its configuration information (in the registry) is incomplete or damaged. (Code 19)". Ive seen this error sprinkled throughout this thread, but no one seems to have posted a solution to it (that Ive found). Im going to try the reverting to SP1 drivers, although it seems most of the posts where I saw this error had done the same already and still got the error...is there a definitive solution to this problem, or at least something I should try?

Try this: Right-click on each of the Tuner, Panel and Unknown devices in Device Mgr and select Uninstall. Reboot. Follow the installation process, and when selecting a driver, select Have Disk to force a new copy of the driver.

The only difference b/w the SP1 and SP2 drivers is the mstapeo.sys driver, which is only used by the AV/C Panel device to change channels --- not by the AV/C Tuner to record. If you're using my driver package, the avcstrm.sys driver isn't included with the driver package because it is a default Windows driver, so it uses whatever your current version is. If you're using the original, untouched Panasonic driver package, then the same version of meistrm.sys is always used instead of avcstrm.sys.

Therefore, there's no reason to try the SP1 drivers.

I did that actually, and I just did it again after uninstalling all the related devices...did have disc, found the file meistb.inf file under Timmmoore\\MCE 2005 STB Controller\\Drivers, but it still gave me the same error.

Ok, I went ahead and installed the panel device this time as well (before, it didnt work when I did this). Its working fine apparently, although the tuner device still has the error. CapDVHS recognizes my STB. When I attempt to record though, I do get the "Error 80040217: Cannot connect to SampleGrabber" error.

Thanks, I'm going to give it a go with my laptop using Vista 32 Ultimate....if that works then I geuss I'm back to 32 bit on the HTPC. I know or at least have heard that Vista 64 will not except unsigned drivers at all, this is more than likely the cause for it not installing in the 64 bit OS. That blows. Thanks for your hepl!

Going with Vista x86 is probably a good idea for compatibility with the variety of HTPC software you have to get running, but you can force unsigned drivers to load in x64 by pressing F8 during boot (immediately after POST, when the Windows logo would normally come up) and selecting the "Disable Driver Signature Enforcement" option to allow unsigned drivers. The setting will only apply for that Windows session, that is, until you reboot. Alternatively, you can turn off driver signature checking permanently by using the Group Policy Object or downloading VistaBootPRO, which use Windows' bcedit to do it for you.

To use GPO:

Start > Run > gpedit.msc
Check for the following two settings:

• Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Security Settings > Local Policies > Security Options > Devices: Unsigned driver installation behavior. Double-click and select "Silently succeed".
• User Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Driver Installation > Code signing for drivers. Double-click and select "Enabled" and then set "When Windows detects a driver file without a digital signature": "Ignore".

1) Just out of curiosity, have you tried my driver package and had the same results?

2) The Tuner device still has the driver error in Device Mgr (Code 19), or now you just have the SampleGrabber error?

If it just the SampleGrabber error, then see this post. In short, you need to run CapDVHS with admin privileges, and you also may need to turn off UAC.

Thanks for the reply. You mentioned S-Video/Audio connections. But what about an all digital connection between the box and my laptop? Are there any digital TV-tuner/Capture cards with a DVI or HDMI input connector? And since dish(and all other cable providers) use a standard coax cable that connects to their boxes, what would happen if I connect the main coax line to my tv-tuner card? Would I be able to receive the channels?

No on the DVI/HDMI inputs. I have read about some "professional" equipment with HDMI inputs, but surely not with HDCP, which would be required by the satellite box output. As I recall, that equipment was $10k or something like that.

No on the satellite coax plugged into your TV tuner card. As I mentioned, TV tuner cards are for analog OTA/cable or digital OTA/cable, not satellite. Cable/OTA broadcasts and satellite broadcasts use different parts of the frequency spectrum, they are encoded differently, they use different modulation schemes, and satellite broadcasts from Dish Network are encrypted. There are other options out there, but as two of us mentioned, those options are not to be discussed in these forums.

Ok, so before I was unaware you had different drivers than the ones in the OP...guess I just missed that. I just uninstalled the old ones, rebooted, then followed the steps in your instructions with your drivers, no problems on the install. Just curious, why havent they been linked in the OP?

I then started CapDVHS, the first time it appeared to start, but I got the "program has crashed" popup as soon as I hit record. Closed it out, restarted CapDVHS, and then I get "Error 800705AA: Cannot start capture" on any following attempts to record. Im going to attempt to find the solution for my self for a change, but if you have any ideas, please


Ok, so I reinstalled the Windows hotfix, and it appears I can record from local channels with no problem. When I tried either TNT or Discovery, however, it crashes, so it sounds like these channels are 5c encrypted most likely? I feel like HBO, Showtime, the HDNets maybe, sure, they should be 5c encrypted...but not these channels, if thats the case.

I asked. I will ask again.


It all depends on your local cable provider. Channels like TNT or Discovery may be encrypted. But normally, I wouldn't expect CapDVHS to crash, it should just capture the encrypted file, or a 0-byte file, with no info populated on the "Data Info" tab. It is running with admin privileges?

I just signed up with Comcast here in 85750. only the Locals are ClearQAM so FireSTB was my only other option for getting high def TV.

Everything installed fine, I had to do a hack for channel changing since MyTray would mess up on channels like 223, 322, etc (it would repeat digits too many times, or not enough times). I changed it to simply call channel.exe -m 2 %C for every channel change.

Everything is working fine, BUT, I get a BSOD every 12-24 hours. It doesn't occur necessarily while recording, or on any other action. It seems like something is corrupting kernel memory. This box was stable for 3 months prior to this with 2 VBox ATSC tuners.

My questions: Anyone else experience periodic BSOD's when using FireSTB with Vista Media Center? Secondly, I have a Moto DCT-6200, and it appears to work fine with just the driver from firestb_vistarc1.msi, but would the drivers here: http://home.comcast.net/~exdeus/stbf...#_Toc175236572
be any different/better? I realize they include support for many new STB's, but would the DCT-6200 drivers in there help fix this problem?

PS. My system config is Vista Ultimate 32-bit, Q6600, 4G Ram, nVidia 8600GT, intel P35DP motherboard.

thanks.

Trying to get this to work.

I went through instructions provided with the Tim Moore package and detected my STB just fine. Can even change channels in MCE using mytray.

When i try and record via CAPDVHS or view the stream via VLC i get nothing. Capdvhs records 0 kb files.

I've reinstalled a number of times and followed directions from start to finish with no luck. I did searc the thread but the few posts I found regarding the same issue didn't seem to include a solution.

I'm using a SA 3250 with passport via time warner cable. My HTPC is Vista 32 Home Premium.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT:

Oh and I was able to get in to the service menu of the 3250 and confirm that the channels I am attempting to record are NOT 5c protected.

EDIT #2: Just forced the use of the newer driver package i found in this thread, no go there either same problem.