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post #4351 of 5938
12/24/07 at 7:31am
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Originally Posted by davidk21770 View Post

VLC will record by selecting the wizard from the file menu or ^W from the keyboard. I start by selecting the stream and getting it playing, then choose to record an existing stream. I also select to record to .ts format to get the full stream contents. Others may have alternative approaches .

The wizard works great!! Wish i could figure out the capdvhs problem, but at least i can record now!
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post #4352 of 5938
12/24/07 at 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by ExDeus View Post

Don't have an estimate as of yet. I'm having some difficulty working with the MS AV/C Tape driver. That's the key to replacing the Panasonic AV/C Tape / DVHS driver. If/when it comes time to test the x64 installation, I'll give a shout.

I'm happy to test under Vista x64 Ultimate also and even pay for the privilege.
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post #4353 of 5938
12/28/07 at 2:46pm
Does anyone know how to make a Graph Edit Filter Graph file for a firewire device? I'm able to render from a media file, and open a .ts file recorded in capdvhs. it shows the MPEG2 decoder, but i don't know how to add the capture device.
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post #4354 of 5938
12/28/07 at 5:03pm
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Originally Posted by warnockm View Post

Does anyone know how to make a Graph Edit Filter Graph file for a firewire device? I'm able to render from a media file, and open a .ts file recorded in capdvhs. it shows the MPEG2 decoder, but i don't know how to add the capture device.

It should be in Video Capture Sources.
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post #4355 of 5938
12/28/07 at 6:55pm
I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop with firewire built in. I'm trying to connect it to a Moto DCH-3416 DVR. Problem is, I can't get the drivers to install. I'm using the drivers from here:

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eexdeus/st...2007-12-17.zip

When I plug the cable from the DVR box to the laptop, I get the New Hardware Wizard and it wants to install drivers for "Other". Following the instructions, the wizard finishes with Unknown IEEE 1394/5068 device installed, and I click finished. According to the instructions, another hardware wizard is supposed to pop up, but it doesn't. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
James
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post #4356 of 5938
12/28/07 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by warnockm View Post

Does anyone know how to make a Graph Edit Filter Graph file for a firewire device?

It is in "Capture video devices", the "...AV/C Tuner Device" one... Just connect it to a dump filter and you're set.

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Problem is, I can't get the drivers to install.

If it has 2 firewire ports, try the other one...
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post #4357 of 5938
12/30/07 at 5:54pm
I still can't get clean video from the 1394 port on the 6412 from Comcast. I get random garbled video with small blocks over portions of the screen on the SciFi channel.

I haven't checked into this thread for about a year, and I implemented countermeasures to this by connecting a USB video converter which convert the s-video and audio outputs to a mpg file. It works OK, but the picture isn't as clean as I was originally getting from capdvhs and the 1394 connection.

Is anybody getting clean files from their Comcast boxes through the 1394 connection?
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post #4358 of 5938
12/30/07 at 6:19pm
I just tried a little experiment. I seem to get clean video and audio from live shows, but when I rewound the show a little bit the video was garbled. It seems like something coming off the DVR is corrupted, but not if it is live. But I thought even live shows were recorded to the DVR and played off the DVR.
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post #4359 of 5938
12/31/07 at 1:36am
About 1/2 of the time, I need to restart the playback to get a clean recording. What I do is to start in VLC and see if it's playing ok (no blocking or breakup). If not, I restart the playback until it is (usually once is enough and I use the restart, not rewind -- I don't know if rewind will work -- I also sometimes need to pause VLC and restart it). Then I close VLC and go to CapDVHS for the recording -- without stopping or pausing the playback. I find that having the recordings start a minute early is a good thing here since some shows start right at their specified time (no lead-in, etc.) and this way I don't miss anything.
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post #4360 of 5938
1/1/08 at 1:03am
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Originally Posted by junebug1701 View Post

I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop with firewire built in. I'm trying to connect it to a Moto DCH-3416 DVR. Problem is, I can't get the drivers to install. I'm using the drivers from here:

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eexdeus/st...2007-12-17.zip

When I plug the cable from the DVR box to the laptop, I get the New Hardware Wizard and it wants to install drivers for "Other". Following the instructions, the wizard finishes with Unknown IEEE 1394/5068 device installed, and I click finished. According to the instructions, another hardware wizard is supposed to pop up, but it doesn't. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
James

If you go to Device Mgr, are there more devices under "Other devices" or "Imaging devices" that need a driver installed? You can right-click and select "Update Driver".
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post #4361 of 5938
1/1/08 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by ExDeus View Post

FYI -

I released a new version of. It supports the 'Unknown' devices, in addition to the usual AV/C Tuner and AV/C Panel devices. This makes for a somewhat simplified installation process for the newcomers, also detailed on my site. Others can just install the driver for the Unknown devices.


Version 2007-12-17 includes the following updates:

- A 'null' driver is installed for the "Unknown" devices, so no need to cancel the New Hardware wizards or disable any devices. This should also allow your PC to go to sleep mode, which is prevented in some situations when there are devices present without drivers installed. The Sci Atl boxes have two 'Unknowns', while most others have only one 'Unknown' device. The driver supports both devices.

- The driver version is properly reported in the device properties page.

- Added support for the Samsung SMT-H3050.

- Made the naming conventions uniform, i.e., "AV/C Tuner" and "AV/C Panel" instead of "Tuner AV/C" and "AV/C Panel".


I'm also working on another version that will only use Microsoft drivers, so no Panasonic drivers are required. This would allow all drivers to be signed, and therefore install for x64 versions of Windows. It should also eliminate BSODs caused by having the STB connected, as the Panasonic driver is at the root. I don't yet know that it's feasible, but I'm working on it.


A while back I downloaded and installed firestb.msi on my XP machine but never hooked up a cable box to test it for various reasons. A while passed and the whole idea of firewire recording slipped my mind. Recently I found some printouts I had regarding the issue and visited the forum again only to see new drivers as of 12-12-2007. I downloaded these drivers, but they do not include an installer. how do I install them? Do I just need to copy these drivers to a folder on my hard drive? If so, what folder?
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post #4362 of 5938
1/4/08 at 8:02am
Is it only possible now to record 5c=1 (or any of the other flags whose names I can't remember at the moment = 1) over firewire to a D-VHS?

Perhaps a better way to phrase the question is: Are D-VHS decks the only 5c compatible devices out there, or are there any, say, DVD recorders that accept firewire input and are 5c compatible?

I'm getting a Samsung DVD-R160 along with a new TV. I believe it has a firewire input on it, and I was wondering if I would be able to archive DVR'd content (copy-once) to it off of my Motorola DCT-6412 box.

Thanks for any insight you can provide!
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post #4363 of 5938
1/4/08 at 8:43am
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Originally Posted by Big Jim Slade View Post

Are D-VHS decks the only 5c compatible devices out there, or are there any, say, DVD recorders that accept firewire input and are 5c compatible?

Most likely, the D-VHS decks are the only ones that will work with the "copy once" flag. I doubt that a DVD recorder would be approved by the 5c group, considering how easy it is to make extra copies of DVD's... I guess if they were to encrypt those DVD's so that they can only be played back on the same DVD recorder, they might get the approval, but I doubt a manufacturer would jump through such hoops...
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post #4364 of 5938
1/4/08 at 10:40am
So that leads to this question:

What is the best way to get copy-once material off of a DVR and onto a PC? Is it best to just use a video capture card and connect the DVR that way, or is it best to archive to D-VHS and then video capture from that to the PC?

In my case, none of the material I'm talking about is HD. It's all SD and the bulk of that is from ESPN Classic, and these classic games weren't shot in all that great quality in the first place.
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post #4365 of 5938
1/4/08 at 6:34pm
Honestly, the best way to transfer copy-restricted programming on cable is to dump your cable service and get satellite and a receiver with an R5000 modification. This will allow transfer of the digital stream directly to the PC without any analog step. Failing that, you are probably best off getting a Hauppage WinTV PVR250 or another card with a good analog tuner and recording the S-Video out from your set-top box.
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post #4366 of 5938
1/5/08 at 8:03pm
I'm not sure if this would be allowed here, guys.

I have followed this steps to the letter, and I'm perfectly able to capture to both my laptop and desktop. The only problem I'm facing is that I'm using Womble MPEG wizard to cut and convert the .ts streams to DVD. The audio is always, invariably out of sync (it's ahead about 1-3 seconds) when I burn it to DVD or when I check the .vob file. The captured .ts file is just fine. It's Womble MPEG video wizard screwing up the audio sync. Any suggestions? Please? Any other programs besides this... broken software?

Thanks.
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post #4367 of 5938
1/5/08 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by Specineff View Post

The captured .ts file is just fine. It's Womble MPEG video wizard screwing up the audio sync. Any suggestions? Please? Any other programs besides this... broken software?

Try VideoReDo, it can edit most files just fine...
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post #4368 of 5938
1/6/08 at 7:53am
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Originally Posted by Fonceur View Post

Try VideoReDo, it can edit most files just fine...

I have a similar problem. I am able to capture the output from
6412 III firewire using a Notebook PC. When I play that captured file
using nero showtime, audio and video are perfect.

Then I used NeroVision Make Blu Ray Disc option and add the captured
file and compile a Blu Ray disc and burn it on a blank DVD.
Put the DVD in PS3. Go to the "Stream" dir, and click on the xxxxx.m2ts file.

It plays on PS3. First 2 tries I thought I got the audio and video perfectly.

Now I see very big audio delay. Video and Audio are out of sinc.
I then tried "HDTV2Mpeg2" first before I used Nero Vision. I still see the same
issue with audio out of sync completely. Seems that audio is faster.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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post #4369 of 5938
1/7/08 at 9:45am
Thought I ask a question here...
I'm running MCE2005, have a Moto 6412 working just fine with CAPDVHS. I have a working NTSC tuner (ATI X800 AIW Video Card) in MCE. The problem is I show no tuners in MyTray, nor do I see MyTray as an app I can add to MCE. Any advise on how to proceed?

Thanks in advance!
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post #4370 of 5938
1/7/08 at 7:33pm
Hi, I need help....I'm trying my first recording using CapDVHS but I get an error as soon as I hit record, Error Cannot open output file?
I'm using Vista.....TIA.
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post #4371 of 5938
1/8/08 at 5:24am
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Originally Posted by njusr139 View Post

I have a similar problem. I am able to capture the output from
6412 III firewire using a Notebook PC. When I play that captured file
using nero showtime, audio and video are perfect.

Then I used NeroVision Make Blu Ray Disc option and add the captured
file and compile a Blu Ray disc and burn it on a blank DVD.
Put the DVD in PS3. Go to the "Stream" dir, and click on the xxxxx.m2ts file.

It plays on PS3. First 2 tries I thought I got the audio and video perfectly.

Now I see very big audio delay. Video and Audio are out of sinc.
I then tried "HDTV2Mpeg2" first before I used Nero Vision. I still see the same
issue with audio out of sync completely. Seems that audio is faster.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

When I've had that problem it's been a codec issue. I believe that Nero uses direct show for what it can't handle internally and HDTV2Mpeg2 uses ffdshow (not the best choice to convert in the 1st place unless all you care about is conversion speed). I'd look for another tool that doesn't use ffdshow. To go to normal DVD (not HD/Blue), I use TMPGEnc to convert the .TS -> DVD compatible MPG, then I use ULead Movie Factory to create the DVD structure (but once you have a compatible MPG, any MPG->DVD program should work). (Note that my old TMPGEnc can't handle AC3 audio, but I can use it to mux the original audio to back in and get 5.1 or better if that's what's in the broadcast -- look in MPEG tools under the files menu). TMPGEnxXP4 can handle stereo AC3 and is faster on encode, but not as good on quality.
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post #4372 of 5938
1/8/08 at 7:39am
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Originally Posted by xnelsonn View Post

Hi, I need help....I'm trying my first recording using CapDVHS but I get an error as soon as I hit record, Error Cannot open output file?
I'm using Vista.....TIA.


I ran into this, then realized it was because I was entering the file path, like D:\\filename. I just had to change it to the name only without the drive path designation(which you set up in the SETTINGS tab).
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post #4373 of 5938
1/8/08 at 7:14pm
Got a question for the SA 8300HD/HDC users. I had a 8300HD and asked for a new box w/ firewire ports enabled. I received an 8300HDC. While I am able to capture over the firewire, this box has many problems such as audio cutouts, and slow menus. I'm curious if the 8300HD should be able to capture just he same (since firewire ports have to be turned on) or if it is the 8300HDC that allows me to capture.
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post #4374 of 5938
1/9/08 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by jabloomf1230 View Post

I'm happy to test under Vista x64 Ultimate also and even pay for the privilege.

ExDeus,
Would the STB firewire driver install on an x64 vista system in driver signing is manually disabled? (as vista 64 requires all drivers to be signed)

-Caz
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post #4375 of 5938
1/13/08 at 10:57am
I read thru a bunch of the posts and didn't find the answers I was looking for so please excuse me if it's somewhere among those 140 + pages.

Almost everything I have read talks about people recording onto their hard drive (PC) thru their PVR.

I have a Motorola DCT6416 and I just want to be able to transfer some stuff I have already recorded onto my PC for safe storage.

Is this the same issue as trying to capture ?

If not, is there a way to do it ? I have read that the USB port is disabled but the Firewire port isn't, my laptop doesn't have a Firewire port on it, what can I do about that ?

Thanks for your help, and again I'm sorry if it's already been addressed.......
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post #4376 of 5938
1/13/08 at 9:58pm
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Originally Posted by hzemall View Post

I have a Motorola DCT6416 and I just want to be able to transfer some stuff I have already recorded onto my PC for safe storage.

Is this the same issue as trying to capture ?

Pretty much, yes. You can't simply transfer the file, you basically have to capture the playback from your STB.

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my laptop doesn't have a Firewire port on it, what can I do about that?

You can easily add a Firewire card to a regular PC, but I would assume that on a laptop you could get some kind of PCMCIA card for that or such...
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post #4377 of 5938
1/14/08 at 3:01pm
No, the drivers do not support x64 systems yet. A driver set is being created but I do not know when it will be released.
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post #4378 of 5938
1/15/08 at 9:24am
I havent done capture in while.. returning to the scene.. can anyone tell me:

Is CapDVHS still the best tool for capturing the stream.. or can I even use a tool like Studio 11 via its capture option to do the capturing?

Finally.. I'm guessing the answer is still no here.. but.. is there still no way to realistically capture the dolby digital output from hidef stations using software on the PC?

Thanks
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post #4379 of 5938
1/15/08 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by markm75 View Post

Is CapDVHS still the best tool for capturing the stream..

Most PVR applications can handle that natively or though third party support...

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is there still no way to realistically capture the dolby digital output from hidef stations using software on the PC?

With Firewire recordings, you are saving the original audio stream (AC3), not sure what more you want... The newer Hauppauge HD capture card (to be release soon?) can capture through spdif, but that's a different subject and thread...
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post #4380 of 5938
1/15/08 at 6:07pm
I installed the stb_firewire_drivers_2007-12-17.zip drivers on WindowsXP and am using VLC to watch the video stream over FireWire. However, I have horrible pixelation and can barely see or hear the show. Am I doing something wrong?
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