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post #5131 of 6013
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Originally Posted by Vchat20 View Post

If you don't even get new hardware showing up, it sounds like your Cableco has disabled the firewire connectivity completely on the box. Gotta fight with them about it.

But it does say that it is Enabled. Could it be a problem with my PC?
post #5132 of 6013
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Originally Posted by Sim-X View Post

Just installed a new firewire card in my comp today. it is working but it's kinda choppy. I am using the new dcx box. Is there update drivers for the dcx box? I had to manually install DCH-3416 AV/C Tuner device and it seems to work but is choppy.

When I installed the DCX3425 I let windows search for the drivers and it actually found them. I also have a DCH3416 and swap between the two to the computer, and they both work without issues and don't need to reinstall the drivers.
post #5133 of 6013
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Originally Posted by CaptMorn2374 View Post

When I installed the DCX3425 I let windows search for the drivers and it actually found them. I also have a DCH3416 and swap between the two to the computer, and they both work without issues and don't need to reinstall the drivers.



hmmm, did it have to search online? Which drivers did you download on the front page, I know there is a few - maybe I will try a different one. I am also using vista, are you on vista?
post #5134 of 6013
I got my DCX3425 to record to my Vista 32bit computer after trying a couple of different methods. I use Capdvhs to capture via firewire. The procedure I used was to hit the record button first on Capdvhs, wait a couple of seconds, then hit the play button on the DCX3425. This method gives me both video and audio now. I didn't have to do this with my DCH3416. My Vist 64 bit laptop will not work on either STB. There are no drivers that I know of for firewire capturing for 64 bit computers.
post #5135 of 6013
mine works and records, it's just really choppy - I have a fast computer - not sure what the deal is
post #5136 of 6013
I've been following this thread for a while, and set up a dual boot system with Vista and XP (vista installed 1st). I've been trying to get xp to recognize my Motorola QIP 7216 (Verizon Fios) with no luck. I can't even get the firestb drivers to load. Also, I can't even get into a screen on my DVR to check if the firewire port on it is enabled. Any help would be appreciated.
post #5137 of 6013
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Originally Posted by Sim-X View Post

hmmm, did it have to search online? Which drivers did you download on the front page, I know there is a few - maybe I will try a different one. I am also using vista, are you on vista?

I use XP. When I connected the DCX3425, Windows popped the Found New Hardware dialog. I chose the first option for kicks, and it found the drivers. Well, there are actually three things it tries to find. The Image Device, the AV/C Panel, and an Unknown Device. Only the Image Device will find drivers, the other two say none found.

Now, when I swap between the DCX3425 and the DCH3416, the drivers automatically recognize which is connected.

I'm not sure what/where the front page is. If there is any info I can provide, or you can direct me to where that page is, maybe I can figure it out for you.

I think there was a firmware update recently for me, I have not tried to record since then. I'll try switching again and see what happens.

cm
post #5138 of 6013
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Originally Posted by CaptMorn2374 View Post

I use XP. When I connected the DCX3425, Windows popped the Found New Hardware dialog. I chose the first option for kicks, and it found the drivers. Well, there are actually three things it tries to find. The Image Device, the AV/C Panel, and an Unknown Device. Only the Image Device will find drivers, the other two say none found.

Now, when I swap between the DCX3425 and the DCH3416, the drivers automatically recognize which is connected.

I'm not sure what/where the front page is. If there is any info I can provide, or you can direct me to where that page is, maybe I can figure it out for you.

I think there was a firmware update recently for me, I have not tried to record since then. I'll try switching again and see what happens.

cm

Here is the front page...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=403695

I have other computers with xp but they are not by my moto box and they are slow compare to my vista pc.
post #5139 of 6013
Am I trying to install the "firestb. files wrong?
I am running XP only.
Do I bring up a command prompt and under my C drive, type in msiexec /i firestb.msi IDENT="1" ??????
post #5140 of 6013
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Originally Posted by Sim-X View Post

Here is the front page...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=403695

I have other computers with xp but they are not by my moto box and they are slow compare to my vista pc.

I have the forum sort the posts so the newest are first ... I went to the first post and see what you mean now.

I did not choose one from there when I installed at the Windows prompt, rather an assortment of files were loaded. I'm not really sure which is being used as the driver itself? Windows seemed to do the work for me.
post #5141 of 6013
Regarding my previous post about the Verizon FIOS Motorola QIP-7216, it seems that the firewire port is enabled. However, my PC doesn't detect any kind of device (image device or unknown) connected by firewire. Could it be that my cable is bad (I bought a cheap one off ebay)? Any other ideas?
post #5142 of 6013
Also, if someone needs them, custom drivers for the 7216 can be found here:


http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r225...1394-Capturing
post #5143 of 6013
i was able to get my motorola DCH3416 from comcast working. i used the CAPDVHS software. i will admit though, it is extremely quirky. it records fine if i just click 'Rec.' and i was also able to set up a timer reserve. when i went to test a timer reserve with the cable box off (letting CAPDVHS turn it on), it created a video file, but i wasn't able to play it in VLC. has anyone gotten that to work? if the box is on when the recording starts, all videos play perfectly.

also, i was wondering if there is some newer software that allows you to change the channel on the cable box, rather than just recording the channel that it is currently set to.

thanks for any help. i'm glad i stumbled across this forum and thread.
post #5144 of 6013
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Originally Posted by crazy098 View Post

Also, if someone needs them, custom drivers for the 7216 can be found here:

That's just a link back to the package made by Exdeus, of the same driver that everyone in this thread has been using, nothing new...

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Originally Posted by myst3ray View Post

when i went to test a timer reserve with the cable box off (letting CAPDVHS turn it on), it created a video file, but i wasn't able to play it in VLC.

So either don't let the cable box go in standby (you're probably saving like 1 Watt anyway), or try using VideReDo's quickstream fix, possibly chopping the start of the file...

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also, i was wondering if there is some newer software that allows you to change the channel on the cable box, rather than just recording the channel that it is currently set to.

There is a channelw.exe (and .dll) distributed by Tim Moore for that, or pretty much every PVR application (SageTV, BeyondTV, GBPVR, etc.) has some third party support to handle the whole process for you, like if it was another tuner...
post #5145 of 6013
thanks fonceur. VideoReDo wasn't even able to open my .ts file. i'll have to do some more testing to figure out the best solution. i'll definitely give beyondTV a try.
post #5146 of 6013
When VRD chokes on my TS files I try to run them through Project-X (http://sourceforge.net/projects/project-x/). Caution: the interface sucks, terribly, and making TSes work can often rely on digging through the almost completely opaque settings menu and trying different tweaks. Even after that sometimes I'll have to run it through mpeg2repair. Usually they work after that, unless they've got tricky bits with 5C, in which case the captures are occasionally completely ruined.
post #5147 of 6013
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Originally Posted by myst3ray View Post

thanks fonceur. VideoReDo wasn't even able to open my .ts file. i'll have to do some more testing to figure out the best solution. i'll definitely give beyondTV a try.

From the command line I'm pretty sure you can chop the start of the file with VRD, I had to do that when I had some switch of resolutions at the start (i.e. going from 1080i to 720p).
post #5148 of 6013
Several years ago, one could take a comcast DVR (6412?) and transfer recorded offerings off the DVR as well as capture live video (off a HD channel).

Then all the DVRs were crippled over night and the ability to transfer DVR footage was indeed disabled. (video tends to be choppy or low frame rate).

It looks like I'll still be able to record, but only off a live HD feed (or time record using CapDVHS). Getting DVR recordings is still no longer an option?

What model numbers should I keep a look out for? The week they crippled the DVRs (this was back in 2005-2006) was the day I downgraded my service back to limited basic (using QAM capture). Also, will I have to deal with going through multiple STBs until I get one that will auto-detect in device manager?
post #5149 of 6013
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Originally Posted by elister View Post

Several years ago, one could take a comcast DVR (6412?) and transfer recorded offerings off the DVR as well as capture live video (off a HD channel).

Then all the DVRs were crippled over night and the ability to transfer DVR footage was indeed disabled. (video tends to be choppy or low frame rate).

I have no idea where you're located, but here in the Chicago area Comcast never crippled the ability to record live/captured content via 1394. I can still record live broadcasts, as well as playback and record a stored program from the DVR's hard drive.
post #5150 of 6013
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Originally Posted by FSugino View Post

I have no idea where you're located, but here in the Chicago area Comcast never crippled the ability to record live/captured content via 1394. I can still record live broadcasts, as well as playback and record a stored program from the DVR's hard drive.

I live in Seattle and yeah they did cripple the DVRs a few years back. I assumed this was nation wide and they went back to offering a DVR with an enabled firewire port.
post #5151 of 6013
I have a DCT 3416, I can capture live TV streams but when I try to capture the recorded shows the DVR stops playing.
post #5152 of 6013
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Originally Posted by elister View Post

It looks like I'll still be able to record, but only off a live HD feed (or time record using CapDVHS). Getting DVR recordings is still no longer an option?

It depends on many things - where you are, which DVR you have, what firmware version it has, which channel you're trying to record, etc. I've been doing this for quite a while and have gone through many different phases with Comcast. Sometimes I can record just about anything with no problems, there have been periods when it seems they turned on 5C protection for just about everything, then there was a firmware bug (see this thread) and who knows what else may come down the road.

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Originally Posted by pnpgator View Post

I have a DCT 3416, I can capture live TV streams but when I try to capture the recorded shows the DVR stops playing.

See the thread I linked above.
post #5153 of 6013
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Originally Posted by JDLIVE View Post

It depends on many things - where you are, which DVR you have, what firmware version it has, which channel you're trying to record, etc. I've been doing this for quite a while and have gone through many different phases with Comcast. Sometimes I can record just about anything with no problems, there have been periods when it seems they turned on 5C protection for just about everything, then there was a firmware bug (see this thread) and who knows what else may come down the road.

Thank you very much, and to confirm, this will only work on their DVRs. The normal HD-STBs dont have a firewire port.
post #5154 of 6013
I haven't been around the forum for awhile, I have 3 dvhs decks and about 200 dvhs movies. I am now about to upgrade my computor. I'll be sure to have a bd burner. What hardware or software from dell or else would I need to burn from cable mpeg like I do now?
post #5155 of 6013
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Originally Posted by wiz View Post

I haven't been around the forum for awhile, I have 3 dvhs decks and about 200 dvhs movies. I am now about to upgrade my computor. I'll be sure to have a bd burner. What hardware or software from dell or else would I need to burn from cable mpeg like I do now?

I don't know for absolutely sure, but if your movies on DVHS are offloads from DVR of "premium channels" then the 5C flag may prevent you from burning anything to BluRay (at least not without some external "uncracking" facility).

I know that my DVHS decks from JVC will not provide source signals via firewire to a secondary recorder (e.g. a second DVHS machine) for content that has "copy once" set. The only thing you can copy from DVHS to DVHS is "copy always/freely".

I assume that since no computer is 5C-compliant (e.g. you can't even copy from DVHS machine to computer hard drive using CapDVHS these "copy once" tapes) that your DVHS machine would similarly refuse to provide the digital content to your computer for purposes of duplicating perfectly that DVHS recording onto a BluRay disc.

Yes, you can do this (i.e. write to BluRay) with home HD camcorder videos (which are obviously not 5C-protected), and I'm sure you can do this with "copy always/freely" content which WILL be provided by the DVHS machine.

But unless I'm wrong, I don't think you will be able to make your own BluRay versions of old DVHS tapes that are 5C-protected (e.g. from HBOHD and SHOHD). I'm actually not sure if HDNet Movies is "copy once", but I do know that HDNet is "copy always/freely"... at least in my experience.
post #5156 of 6013
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

But unless I'm wrong, I don't think you will be able to make your own BluRay versions of old DVHS tapes that are 5C-protected (e.g. from HBOHD and SHOHD). I'm actually not sure if HDNet Movies is "copy once", but I do know that HDNet is "copy always/freely"... at least in my experience.

5C status could very well have changed during time, FWIW. I had HBO, Showtime, and HDNet Movies as copy free for a few weeks here from Charter. I was hoping their oversight would be permanent
post #5157 of 6013
My cable is still copy freely on all premium channels. It's been like that for 4 years. Lucky I guess.
post #5158 of 6013
Just FYI, I got both the panel and tuner drivers to load up the ExDeus/TimMMoore windows drivers for XP, these lines need to be added to the firestb.inf file:

Code:
%AVC\\MOTOROLA&DCX-3425&TYP_5&ID_0.DeviceDesc%=MEITUNER.MOTO,AVC\\MOTOROLA&DCX-3425&TYP_5&ID_0
%AVC\\MOTOROLA&DCX-3425&TYP_9&ID_0.DeviceDesc%=MSPANEL.MOTO,AVC\\MOTOROLA&DCX-3425&TYP_9&ID_0
to the [Motorola] section of the INF

Code:
AVC\\MOTOROLA&DCX-3425&TYP_5&ID_0.DeviceDesc="Motorola AV/C Tuner Device (DCX-3425)"
AVC\\MOTOROLA&DCX-3425&TYP_9&ID_0.DeviceDesc="Motorola AV/C Panel Device (DCX-3425)"
and in the [Strings] section.

Update the drivers for the tuner and install the driver for the panel. Haven't tested the tuner, but the channel changing utilities definitely work.

Cheers!

Update: Recording with CapDVHS works just fine in its usual kludgy way.
post #5159 of 6013
Is there a driver that works with Windows 7 64-bit yet? I get the dreaded "Windows could not find driver software for your device", despite correctly pointing to the same driver folder that works in Vista 32-bit.

I'm trying to point Win 7 Computer Management > Device Manager > (?) Motorola DCH-3416 AV/C Tuner and Panel to \\stb_firewire_drivers_2009-02-25\\drivers.

Is this something I'll have to boot up in Vista for? I hate booting up in Vista, it takes like 10 minutes to boot, whereas Windows 7 is more like 30 seconds.
post #5160 of 6013
has anyone gotten win 7 x86 to work? Capdvhs gives me an error though the drivers look ok
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