Originally Posted by AlterEcho
I was using JDownloader
I wasn't familiar with this product, because I'm not normally downloading files. But after looking at it, I will say it looks like a very useful tool.
to record BBC 'live' streams of the Olympics(this was after using my VPN to pop out in London. My VPN supports 30mb+ bandwidth) and then having them automatically converted to the proper container to watch on any HTPC/360 in the house...LIVE. I hated the way NBC was editing and showing the Olympics non-live.
That would have been quite a challenge, to either pre-determine which BBC live streams you really wanted to record (they had 24, didn't they, or was that the number of actual live HDTV channels they were running?) since you probably weren't interested in each and every event in every sport, or to just take them all and decide later (which would require an ENORMOUS amount of hard drive storage unless the live streams were not true HDTV TS/MPEG-2 or similar, or an ENORMOUS amount of CPU horsepower to convert raw transport stream MPEG-2 or equivalent into some compressed form of video format like AVI/MP4 or something).
I myself eventually decided to record MSNBCHD, NBCSNSD, and NBCHD, every day for every hour of programming that they actually did broadcast. Probably came to about 40 hours each day of TS/MPEG-2 HDTV WTV files. I had to move the new recordings to external folders (on other internal and two external 2TB USB 3.0 hard drives) which were all part of my "Recorded TV" Library (i.e. available for playback with WMC) to make room for new recordings and cover the full 2 weeks.
What really bothered me about NBC's editing and presentation approach was that they DID very often show a complete match LIVE (on the off-channels) for a less-than-glamor sport, e.g. soccer, water polo, field hockey, team handball, etc., which might go on for 1 1/2 hours. But they wouldn't show a swimming heat if it didn't have an American in it. And they'd edit down other non-glamor events (e.g. canoe/kayak, archery) to either just the finals (shown possibly in the late night 1 hour) or just that particular match with the American's (e.g. archery).
Then, they'd still spend hours on MSNBC and NBCSN for boxing, basketball, etc., all of which went on for more hours, instead of providing complete coverage of table tennis, badminton, shooting, etc. And they'd REPEAT some long-running events they'd previously showed LIVE (very early in the morning), at a later time on the other channel or NBC itself... but still had no or very limited coverage of "more interesting" but less glamorous sports.
I tried using NBC's Online LIVE streaming function, but was never satisfied and only annoyed. Didn't give me what I really wanted in a display format I wanted, even though it purported to provide EVERYTHING.
..if you can use the Xbox 360's as your 'media extenders', then that would be the way to go. You can get older '360's for cheap, on Ebay (I have been getting mine for about $75. Hard to put together an HDTV PC for that price). Just make sure that the '360 has the connection that you want (component or HDMI) as they will even hook up to old 'tube' TV's. Also, make sure that they have a return policy and good rating.
I'm not a gamer, so I didn't have any to start with.
But mostly I also wanted 100% silent/passive media extenders, not one that had a spinning hard drive and fan. I also didn't want hardly any electricity to be consumed, and the Linksys DMA2100 satisfied my goal perfectly.
The new Echo extender from Ceton is about to enter beta testing, and is rumored to possibly be available for purchase by the end of the year. So there's at least one more silent/passive option ACTUALLY NOW BEING BUILT (unlike the DMA2100) which would provide another option.
But the real primary arguments for HTPC vs. cable company DVR vs. trying to record one copy-freely program at a time from DVR to PC via firewire? (1) Windows Media Center is just far superior as DVR software than iGuide in the Motorola DVRs. (2) And you can add unlimited hard drive capacity for unlimited storage of HDTV recordings for playback.
NOTE: it should be mentioned that because of DRM agreements between Microsoft and Cablelabs, while you CAN record copy-protected cable programs to WTV files for playback by WMC thanks to the implementation of M-Card cablecards in these TV tuner products, you can only play those programs using Windows Media Center on the very same installed Windows 7 system that actually did the recording originally. You cannot play copy-protected programs on another Windows 7, or even using Windows Media Player or any other media playing/editing software on the same Windows 7 system that did the recording. You can ONLY use Windows Media Center, as that's the only software that has the ability to decrypt the WTV encryption through the cablecard.
If you reinstall Windows 7, you will have just lost all ability to play any copy-protected WTV files you might still have. It must be that very same original installed Win7 system on the SAME HARDWARE which can play back copy-protected WTV files made with that Win7 and hardware.
If you restore a system image of Win7 from say two weeks ago, you will have just lost all ability to play any copy-protected WTV files which might have been made in the past two weeks... between the date/time of that restored system image and now. You will of course be able to play back all copy-protected recordings from before the date/time of that system image, and also all newly recorded copy-protected programs going forward from now. But for the two weeks between that system image and right now... unfortunately the time-based encryption key method used prevents those particular copy-protected programs from being played. This is a very important fact that needs to be remembered, if you do find yourself needing to restore an old system image to recover from a system problem.
Also, it must be reiterated that only copy-freely programs can be played by any media player/editor program, on this same or any other PC. In other words you can share the "Recorded TV" library from one Win7 machine on your home LAN with WMC or any other player/editor program on any other Win7 machine on your home LAN. But you CANNOT do the same with copy-protected programs. These are strictly limited to playback with WMC only, and even then only on the same installed Win7 system and hardware which was used to make the original copy-protected WTV recording.Edited by DSperber - 9/29/12 at 11:44pm