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post #61 of 100
Perhaps I missed it in the reviews but was there any talk about rainbows with the 4805? It seems to me I heard alot of speculation that there would be less rainbow effect with the new technology of the 4805, just curious if that was true.
LC
post #62 of 100
I did not see any rainbows on the 4805 (or any other projector for that matter) and I looked. I also did not hear of anyone else seeing them. If they did, I didn't hear about it. I also happen to own an HLN617w, and have seen one rainbow in about 7 months. I was quite tired, laying back in my recliner watching Leno and drifting in and out of sleep. I just happened to glance the right way at the right time and briefly saw a color splash out of the corner of my eye. I guess this is what they call rainbows.

--Eric
post #63 of 100
Thanks Eric,

I have only seen one DLP projector and it was a $10,000.00 machine so I don't know if I am suseptable to rainbows or not. I didn't see them on that day. It does sound promising if no one noticed them as this is the only reservation I had about DLP. I almost bought a Panny 300u last year and I think I may be glad I waited. We'll see.........

LC
post #64 of 100
Thread Starter 
BTW, I do have the Screenplay 4805 image calculator for anyone interested. It calculates throw and offset.

In answer to the inevitable questions, the 4805 has a fairly long throw with an offset more than the 7200 but less than the 5700.

Send a request to the e-mail address below and I will e-mail it back to you.

Thanks!

JOHN
post #65 of 100
John (or anyone else in attendance);

Did anyone compare the DVI versus component inputs on the 4805? I'm very curious to know if there was a clearly visible difference.

Wish I could have been there, but I'm on the East Coast.

Mark T.
post #66 of 100
Can anybody compare the pictures of 4805 to the Z2 clone?

I am new to the projector world and 4805, z2 and the new hitachi is on top of my list. Most of my viewing will be DVD and HD. I intend to sit about 12 ft away from a 92" screen. Thank you.
post #67 of 100
Can anybody compare the pictures of 4805 to the Z2 clone?

I am new to the projector world and 4805, z2 and the new hitachi is on top of my list. Most of my viewing will be DVD and HD. I intend to sit about 12 ft away from a 92" screen. Thank you.
post #68 of 100
If the noise level of 37db is the same as the x1, then can anyone tell me what that sounds like? how noticeable would it be 4 foot above my head?
post #69 of 100
Quote:
Originally posted by Vic Y
Can anybody compare the pictures of 4805 to the Z2 clone?
Vic - I asked that same question on the > $3500 thread and got this response:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...74#post3895974
post #70 of 100
JeffKB, thank you. Look like the 4805 is the real deal.
post #71 of 100
i'd wait for waaaay more unbiased reports before getting too excited....some of the posters are better than the paid infocus marketing team :)

12' from 92" seems like trouble w/ the wVGA pjs (too close, too low res).
post #72 of 100
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i'd wait for waaaay more unbiased reports before getting too excited....some of the posters are better than the paid infocus marketing team
Hmm...so the reports are all biased? A conspiracy, perhaps?
post #73 of 100
who said ALL. please read properly if commenting on my posts.

but to deny you got zealots posting rave reviews is just being naive.
post #74 of 100
Which ones seem innacurate/biased? I'm not denying "you got zealots". Just curious, as I'm interested in this PJ and you seem to be disagreeing with the only people who've actually seen it.
post #75 of 100
Jack,

I am brand new to the front projector game and only spent 3 1/2 hours at the shoot-out (I have 1 year old twins so weekend time is a little busy). For the price, I thought the 4805 looked great. I am not videophile and pretty much anything compared to my 27 inch TV would be a vast improvement, but I was shocked at the quality of the image. I could see the screen door affect, but even down to 10 feet it didn't really bother me during a film (although it probably would in extended bright, white scenes). I laid down in front of the screen to check it out. I was also impressed that HD looked as good as it did. It couldn't stand up to the H76, but for $3-$4K less it seemed well worth it . . .it looked very good.

I thought the Z2 did not look as rich although you could see improved resolution. Either one could be acceptable but I preferred to investment in the DLP over the LCD (plus I thought I could get away with more ambient light with 4805). I haven't seen an H30, but decided to back off since it seems there is some quality issues with it and I don't want to fool around with fixing problems.

I am not a "zealot", but on the other hand I am not experienced enough to be really picky either.
post #76 of 100
Quote:
I am not a "zealot", but on the other hand I am not experienced enough to be really picky either.
Same here. :) Thanks for the impressions.
post #77 of 100
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Originally posted by soundtrackman
John (or anyone else in attendance);

Did anyone compare the DVI versus component inputs on the 4805? I'm very curious to know if there was a clearly visible difference.

Wish I could have been there, but I'm on the East Coast.

Mark T.
Well, if the projector has a good analog to digital converter it should look pretty much the same, on my Z2, wich has far higher bandiwdth requirements than a 480p image i see no difference what-so-ever between DVI and compoment, i imagine, that in the 4805 it should be the same because there's just not enough data to stress those component cables to the point where you start losing quality.
post #78 of 100
Quote:
Originally posted by chinch
i'd wait for waaaay more unbiased reports before getting too excited....some of the posters are better than the paid infocus marketing team :)
What is your basis for this comment? I can't see any support for this conclusion in the posts in the two threads regarding the shootout that I have been following.
post #79 of 100
the basis is having read this board (and others) long before joining, and seeing the same trend over and over and over with new products, especially DLP pjs.

alot of initial hype, buyer remorse then repeat for next new product.

nevermind the "shootout" was hardly similar viewing to having a 4805 in your own living room (family room ,theatre) with your own screen for reference.
post #80 of 100
Thread Starter 
Folks, we'll have our reviews up soon on all of the projectors at the event - please bear with us. I don't spend a whole heck of a lot of time here on the "under $3500" forum, but you can sure do a name search on me to determine if my opinions are fair and unbiased, or whether they are those of a zealot. I think I've got a pretty good reputation as a person who shies away from hyperbolic statements like, "it blew away the competition" or "there was no comparison!" Those are the types of statements that really don't tell you anything about the projectors being evaluated.

Like I said, I'm saving reviews for later, but I will say this - the 4805 is the real deal. The performance of the piece was actually better than I would have liked, because there were people who attended who came to make up their minds on $5000 plus projectors that decided on the 4805.

John
post #81 of 100
Quote:
Like I said, I'm saving reviews for later, but I will say this - the 4805 is the real deal. The performance of the piece was actually better than I would have liked, because there were people who attended who came to make up their minds on $5000 plus projectors that decided on the 4805.
Such zealotry!!! Such hype!!!! I do also love to read the opinions of those who have no clue what it looks like, though... nice counterbalance. :rolleyes:
post #82 of 100
Quote:
Originally posted by Jack Gilvey
Such zealotry!!! Such hype!!!! I do also love to read the opinions of those who have no clue what it looks like, though... nice counterbalance. :rolleyes:
now put your money where your mouth is and preorder one sight unseen ;)
post #83 of 100
Quote:
now put your money where your mouth is and preorder one sight unseen
Did that on May 4th. :p No risk, either.
post #84 of 100
that was obvious... hopefully it meets your expectations.

most will await more feedback (from the credible people and the zealots alike). no disrepect to either parties. ;)

either way we're expecting an honest appraisal of rainbows, SDE/pixelization, color uniformity, contrast, usability, brightness, glitches, hdtv, etc.
post #85 of 100
Quote:
that was obvious... hopefully it meets your expectations.
That'd be nice, but, feedback aside, the only way to know is by trying it (as you pointed out)...hence the order. 30 days to try it with free return shipping, nothing to lose.
post #86 of 100
agreed that 100% refund makes a 30-day trial a no-brainer. gotta reconsider that myself :)
post #87 of 100
Hey Chinch,

I was waiting for more feedback, reviews etc . .until I saw it that is. About 60 minutes later I was signing up for a pre-order. . .its not the H76 or the Sharp 12K, but it was good enough for me at my budget.
post #88 of 100
I'm not sure how many of you also follow the $3500 and up forum, but the 4805 is getting a lot of press there as well, even though it's not in that price range. I think that is because quite a few people, that went to the show in Denver, who were expecting to look at the various 720p projectors where thoroughly amazed with this little beauty, my self included.

You can read my informal review of it here as well as the opinions of others normally interested in the higher end projectors.

--Eric
post #89 of 100
Thanks for the review, Eric. It sounds like the 4805 is not going to disappoint.
post #90 of 100
chinch,
The bias then appears to be yours--against new products and the people interested in them. To the point where you are willing to simply invalidate many people first hand opinions.

From my reading of the shootout setup it appeared to me that they attempted to duplicate a normal consumer's experience.

Of course, your knowledge of the 4805 likely has the same basis as mine: second-hand, specs and speculation. So I guess we'll both just have to wait for the wave of "buyer's remorse" threads to start in 3-4 weeks. ;-)
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