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post #1 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Hey central Wisconsinites. I think we need a thread to discuss HD issues for the Madison, Janesville, Wisconsin Dells areas.

I'm in Sun Prairie, about 20 miles from the Madison towers. OTA, I'm receiving HD ABC, CBS, NBC & PBS and non-hd digital Fox and UPN. Does anyone know if the WB affiliate (out of Janesville I believe) is broadcasting a digital transmission?

Also, FYI, I received an e-mail response from an engineer who works for our Fox Madison affiliate. He states they plan to have their equipment ready to pass along the HD Fox feed scheduled to begin late summer/early fall.

Hope there are a lot of contributors to this thread.

-Chad G
post #2 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Wow, no one yet?

There was a message that appeared during Law and Order last night stating that the Madison NBC digital feed will be down for maintenance June 1st thru June 4th.
post #3 of 5626
I'm a little North of you but i hope Fox 55 in Wausau gets running before the fall Packer season.
post #4 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Have you tried contacting the engineering dept. of your Wausau affiliate?

I was a little surprised to find out the Madison affiliate was ready to make the upgrade since it is owned and operated by the Sinclair group.
post #5 of 5626
No I have talked with ABC and CBS in Wausau which CBS was worthless and ABC was great, but nothing with Fox so for. I'm sure your Fox has a much bigger budget than Wausau. I will let you know if i find out any dates.

Dave
post #6 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Quote:
"by way of FOX 47 Engineering " wrote:

Hi Chad,

We are still in the process of purchasing equipment to
pass-thru the HD 720p signal from Fox. Our goal is to have the
equipment installed by this September and the start of football
season.
Our corporate ownership and Charter are working on the
agreement to
carry our HD signal, otherwise you will have to use an outdoor
antenna
to pickup our HD signal.

Looks good for OTA, and Charter customers as well.
post #7 of 5626
This was the reply i got from Wausau,

"The FCC has yet to assign a digital TV channel to Fox 55 WFXS, so it will be some time before we can launch a digital signal."

Robert Raff
General Manager
rraff@wfxs.com

I remember looking at antennaweb.com well over a year ago to see the status and they had "awaiting fcc permit" back then, how long does this take?
post #8 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Quote:
I remember looking at antennaweb.com well over a year ago to see the status and they had "awaiting fcc permit" back then, how long does this take?

I'm not sure how long a permit request to the FCC can take, maybe someone like Ken H or FOXENG can comment. Unfortunately the HD feed probably won't be ready in Sept. since your affiliate isn't transmitting a digital signal yet. Hopefully I'm wrong...
post #9 of 5626
cgengler,

I don't want to sound pessimistic about your info but I have been hearing this crap from Fox 47 engineer/s since spring of 2002.



Quote:


We are still in the process of purchasing equipment to
pass-thru the HD 720p signal from Fox.



I'm hoping they DO something about it and not talk about it anymore.
2 years and waiting...........
post #10 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Quote:


I'm hoping they DO something about it and not talk about it anymore.

I hear ya. I'll believe it when I see it too. What makes me somewhat optimistic is the fact the Fox is paying for most of the hardware upgrades, as opposed to the local affiliate.
post #11 of 5626
I hope Fox47 in Madison gets its HD set up soon.... also, does anyone know if Charter will for sure be carrying the HD fox channel?
post #12 of 5626
I heard from another forum member that even when Fox goes HD, they will still not upgrade their station to broatcast it. Looks like Fox will stay 480 for some time.
post #13 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Quote:


Originally posted by lovebohn
I heard from another forum member that even when Fox goes HD, they will still not upgrade their station to broatcast it. Looks like Fox will stay 480 for some time.

This is contradictory to what I've been told by the head engineer from the Madison Fox affiliate. He stated they are in the process of upgrading their equipment and plan to be ready to pass the hd feed when Fox goes live with it in September.

He also said they are currently in negotiations with Charter.
post #14 of 5626
I hope my source was wrong. Thanks.

Dave
post #15 of 5626
Thanks for starting an official South Central Forum! I too have been envious of milwaukeehdtv too.

I will be subscribed to this forum and am looking forward to future news (especially around FOX 47's DTV signal by fall).

Thanks again...hopefully this will serve as a gathering spot for those of us who have HDTV in the Mad-city area. It may not seem like it, but there are others of us out there.
post #16 of 5626
Thread Starter 
I know I couldn't be the only one out there. The Madison stations were early adopters in digital transmission.

-Chad G.
post #17 of 5626
Doesn't look likely...

Here is a link to a post by bitTRL1000

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...95#post4037495

Funny because I had just sent an email to the Engineer at Fox47 asking the same thing...

Here's hoping...
post #18 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Well that's not too encouraging. I would've thought any holdup would be on the local affiliate end, and not Fox corporate.

Since the Pack's first game is the Monday night game this year, Fox has until Sept. 19 to get the gear installed!!
post #19 of 5626
The "corporate" term Kerry Maki refers to is the Sinclair Group, which owns the station, not FOX. If we keep requesting info from WMSN about their transition, and if we keep calling Charter to ask if they're going to carry them, then maybe they'll get the message that there are a lot of HDTV'ers in Madison.
post #20 of 5626
I live on the Madison East side near hwy 51 and 30.

What antenna's have the good folks of the Madison area found to be the most successful at picking up Madison/Central WI DTV stations?

I already had a VHF/UHF set top rabbit ear, amplified radio shack antenna. I can get almost all the stations (at times) with constant antenna tweaking except WMSN fox DTV which I don't get at all.

Does anybody have any antenna suggestions (as inexpensive as possible)?
I could fairly easily put something in my second story attic, but not outdoors.
post #21 of 5626
So you're about 15 miles from the tower (which I believe is in SW Madison). I had the Zenith Silver Sensor antenna, which is indoor and directional. I was able to pick up all the stations just fine from downtown Madison. I think that antenna would work just fine, especially if you have good line-of-sight.
post #22 of 5626
Quote:


Originally posted by N47H4N
I live on the Madison East side near hwy 51 and 30.

What antenna's have the good folks of the Madison area found to be the most successful at picking up Madison/Central WI DTV stations?

I already had a VHF/UHF set top rabbit ear, amplified radio shack antenna. I can get almost all the stations (at times) with constant antenna tweaking except WMSN fox DTV which I don't get at all.

Does anybody have any antenna suggestions (as inexpensive as possible)?
I could fairly easily put something in my second story attic, but not outdoors.

I would try moving your antenna as high as possible in your house. I live very close to where you are (further out by a mile or two actually) & I have a simple powered UHF/VHF antenna that picks up all stations very well. It is in the second story of my house & I am running it through the coax in my house (I have my charter broadband through another loop in the house).

Give that a try before picking up an 'outdoor' antenna. You could even put the powered antenna you already have in your attic (providing you have access to power and the cabling)

Good luck
post #23 of 5626
I just called Charter here in Madison to move my HD service to my new apartment. The lady on the phone told me that they were going to start offering an HD DVR. I asked if it specifically could record HD, and she said, "Oh...I think...probably...I'm not really sure." She said that it would become available "soon", so when the installer comes next month I'll ask him if they know exactly when it'll become available and if it is an actual HD DVR, rather than just a SD DVR.
post #24 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Does Charter even offer a SD DVR in our area yet?
post #25 of 5626
Not that I know of. And I did a bunch of research around this website last night, and it seems like what the CSR was talking about was the Motorola BMC9012 DVR with Moxi, which is a 2-tuner HD DVR.
post #26 of 5626
Quote:


Originally posted by cgengler
Does Charter even offer a SD DVR in our area yet?

The Charter DVR with Moxi uses the same equipment for both SD & HD. It will receive both (dependint on what your subscription package entitles you to). It can output to standard and hi def TVs.
post #27 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Quote:


Originally posted by MoxiGuy
The Charter DVR with Moxi uses the same equipment for both SD & HD. It will receive both (dependint on what your subscription package entitles you to). It can output to standard and hi def TVs.

Yes, I believe all HD DVRs record SD as well. I asked specifically about a SD DVR because Charter has stated it was "coming soon to Madison" for about a year and a half now. Hopefully Charter customers won't have to wait as long for the HD DVR.

Anyway, has anyone had experience with both Moxi and Tivo? Is Moxi anywhere close to Tivo in functionality and intuitive design?
post #28 of 5626
I called back today to put my name on the list for the DVR. The lady said they are expecting to get them around the beginning of september.
post #29 of 5626
Thread Starter 
Quote:


From: Kerry Maki [mailto:kmaki@wmsn.sbgnet.com]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 12:18 PM
To: by way of FOX 47 Engineering
Subject: Re: HD Feed

So far I haven't received a single piece of the necessary equipment!!
Wait a minute, I misspoke, I have exactly one piece of gear in house!
Yes, I'm also disappointed in the lack of progress.

Kerry

It ain't looking good for us Packer fans.
post #30 of 5626
Since this supposed to be "Central" Wisconsin.... :-)

I just moved to Marshfield from Kenosha (where I was spoiled by Time Warner HD)

Charter says that they won't offer HD here for at LEAST a year. So, I ordered DirecTV, since there have been so many complaints about VOOM. I'm having a hard time finding any info to help me decide if I should even bother with OTA up here. Madison's about 130 miles away, Wausau is about 35-40, and I don't know how far Eau Claire is.

Anyone have any advice???
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